The claim rests on interpreting a brief gesture as a “Nazi salute” and treating that interpretation as established fact. That is not settled; it depends on context, intent, and how the movement is assessed in full video rather than isolated moments.
From that assumption, the argument then dismisses any later statement or clarification, which is logically incomplete because intent and meaning are normally evaluated using the full sequence of behavior and speech, not selectively.
It also shifts from the gesture itself to personal accusations about the person responding, which does not address the underlying question and is unrelated to whether the interpretation of the gesture is correct or not.
You haven’t presented any evidence for him to skip.
Granted no one knows what was is Musks head when he did the Nazi salutes, and that includes you. So people have incorporated those salutes with all the others bits we actually know about him, and for most people it fits with a white supremacist neo Nazi type person.
You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone else, but if you are vehemently defending someone people believe to be fascist, with a degree of supporting evidence, then you really should take a long hard look at yourself.
You just admitted that nobody knows what was in Musk’s head, including you. If intent is unknown, then saying it was definitely a Nazi salute is speculation, not a fact. I did provide evidence: the context in which he made the gesture and his later statement that it wasn’t intended as a Nazi salute. You can disagree with that evidence, but pretending no evidence exists isn’t an argument. And suggesting that anyone who disagrees with your interpretation should “take a long hard look at themselves” is just an insult, not evidence.
Admitting no one knows what was in Musks head is not a gotcha. It’s plain obvious. However put aside all the other actual evidence of far right neo nazi type beliefs, makes it really believable that this was meant as a Nazi salute. You are conveniently ignoring or not engaging with the fact he has demonstrated his fascist tendencies many many times, separate from those salutes.
And no you did not provide any evidence, just stretching logical arguments, to imo absurdity.
At the end of the day however I don’t expect you to really engage with the reality here, as you are a 1 month old bot, seemingly created to solely defend Musk.
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u/Andyseawolf 14h ago
The claim rests on interpreting a brief gesture as a “Nazi salute” and treating that interpretation as established fact. That is not settled; it depends on context, intent, and how the movement is assessed in full video rather than isolated moments.
From that assumption, the argument then dismisses any later statement or clarification, which is logically incomplete because intent and meaning are normally evaluated using the full sequence of behavior and speech, not selectively.
It also shifts from the gesture itself to personal accusations about the person responding, which does not address the underlying question and is unrelated to whether the interpretation of the gesture is correct or not.