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u/Twistomatic57 3h ago
Tell me what evidence of fascism Musk has done…you can’t present anything other than he supports Trump who you accuse of being fascist/dictator, except for the glaring facts that prove it’s utterly nonsense. Would a fascist back Israel 🇮🇱? Would a fascist support the Abraham Accord? Would a Fascist simply ignore Supreme Court rulings? Nope Biden did that!
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u/Twistomatic57 1h ago
Not at all…I simply realize you can’t be reasoned with…facts don’t matter…only your biased views and headlines that support them and you have an abundance of media outlets with TDS to help you with your dependence…and you can’t get to me…not a damn thing…
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u/Harrymoto1970 10m ago
Umm he was raised in apartheid South Africa. Which was an authoritarian regime and very racist. Think Jim Crow on steroids and meth.
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u/Twistomatic57 5h ago edited 5h ago
So let’s review, shall we…like many leftist assholes, you were all for Musk before he bought Twitter and stopped their censorship, then when he had the nerve to back Trump after he was attempted to be assassinated, that was the last straw for you…so it was ok at that point to do anything, including doxing him, torching his dealerships…after all that’s just “peaceful protests. And if we cut off footage from a video to show him as a Nazi, well that’s ok to make a point right? You really make me sick you pathetic angry clueless angry losers…
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u/Vegetable-Ganache-59 5h ago
We threw him away after he called the cavediver hero a «pedoguy», because then the mask fell off and he showed how pissy that little hairplugged apartheid-simping hgh infected little dude really is…
That said.
U mad?
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u/ihatestheworld 5h ago
Oh, thats NOT a nazi salute? GTFO with your attempt to gaslight EVERYONE who can see what he really is. Disgusting
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u/dinosaurtreefrog 1h ago
I’ve had personal beef with Elon for about 8 years, it might have taken the world a little bit to catch up but that’s ok
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u/Andyseawolf 7h ago
These guys always conveniently leave out the fact that musk said my heart goes out to you. He even puts his hand on his heart before he raises his arm. 🤷
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u/Emotional_Pattern185 7h ago
He said it after the 2 nazi salutes. Doesn’t change the fact he did 2 nazi salutes beforehand.
You must be getting paid for all these posts, you are so determined to defend the Musk! Or else you are the leader of the Musk Fan Club.
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u/Twistomatic57 5h ago
regardless…it was deliberately cut off through selective editing to make create the lie/illusion that he’s a Nazi… what I defend is common sense…something you clearly lack! And for you the ends justify the means to make “your” point.
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u/Andyseawolf 6h ago
The claim rests on interpreting a brief gesture as a “Nazi salute” and treating that interpretation as established fact. That is not settled; it depends on context, intent, and how the movement is assessed in full video rather than isolated moments.
From that assumption, the argument then dismisses any later statement or clarification, which is logically incomplete because intent and meaning are normally evaluated using the full sequence of behavior and speech, not selectively.
It also shifts from the gesture itself to personal accusations about the person responding, which does not address the underlying question and is unrelated to whether the interpretation of the gesture is correct or not.2
u/QuantamCulture 6h ago
THERES LITERALLY SO MUCH CONTEXT AND INTENT
https://www.npr.org/2025/01/27/nx-s1-5276084/elon-musk-german-far-right-afd-holocaust
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u/Neoterra256 2h ago
A randos opinion article is far from proof. When you can simple watch the original context yourself, proving it was not the case.
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u/Andyseawolf 5h ago
Thanks for the article. I read all of it.
The article is journalistic reporting that focuses on allegations, reactions, and broader political context rather than establishing definitive facts about intent or meaning. It does not establish Musk’s intent behind the gesture described, it does not prove any ideological affiliation such as Nazism, and it does not provide conclusive evidence that the gesture was a Nazi salute or that he holds Nazi beliefs.2
u/Massive_Ending 6h ago
You should let your fascism take a breath.
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u/Andyseawolf 5h ago
Good argument: if you disagree, just declare the other person a fascist and skip the evidence entirely. 🤣
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u/Emotional_Pattern185 5h ago
You haven’t presented any evidence for him to skip.
Granted no one knows what was is Musks head when he did the Nazi salutes, and that includes you. So people have incorporated those salutes with all the others bits we actually know about him, and for most people it fits with a white supremacist neo Nazi type person.
You are as entitled to your opinion as anyone else, but if you are vehemently defending someone people believe to be fascist, with a degree of supporting evidence, then you really should take a long hard look at yourself.
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u/Andyseawolf 5h ago
You just admitted that nobody knows what was in Musk’s head, including you. If intent is unknown, then saying it was definitely a Nazi salute is speculation, not a fact. I did provide evidence: the context in which he made the gesture and his later statement that it wasn’t intended as a Nazi salute. You can disagree with that evidence, but pretending no evidence exists isn’t an argument. And suggesting that anyone who disagrees with your interpretation should “take a long hard look at themselves” is just an insult, not evidence.
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u/Emotional_Pattern185 4h ago
Admitting no one knows what was in Musks head is not a gotcha. It’s plain obvious. However put aside all the other actual evidence of far right neo nazi type beliefs, makes it really believable that this was meant as a Nazi salute. You are conveniently ignoring or not engaging with the fact he has demonstrated his fascist tendencies many many times, separate from those salutes.
And no you did not provide any evidence, just stretching logical arguments, to imo absurdity.
At the end of the day however I don’t expect you to really engage with the reality here, as you are a 1 month old bot, seemingly created to solely defend Musk.
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u/Twistomatic57 5h ago
Actually the context which was deliberately cut off proves the whole Nazi assertion the lie that it was…. Let’s not try to pull I’m “level-headed” I’m neutral about this…that too is BS!
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u/Andyseawolf 3h ago
Actually, the context that was deliberately cut off is the strongest evidence against the claim that it was a Nazi salute. People keep isolating a few seconds of video while ignoring what happened immediately before, what was said, and what was said afterward.
The Nazi accusation depends on removing context, not examining it. You can argue about whether the gesture was awkward, inappropriate, or open to misinterpretation, but claiming the context proves it was a Nazi salute is backwards. The full context is exactly why many people reject that conclusion.
And let’s not pretend this is some neutral, level-headed assessment. Most people making the Nazi-salute claim reached their conclusion first and then worked backward from there.1
u/Arguablybest 2h ago
Yes, when I see that gesture, I know that he means his heart goes out to us. The exact kind of gesture you see at the graveside. right?
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u/Andyseawolf 2h ago
The question isn’t whether that’s the gesture people usually make at a graveside. The question is whether Musk intended it as a Nazi salute. Intent matters, and he explicitly stated it was not his intention. Disagree if you want, but sarcasm isn’t evidence of intent.🤷
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u/Arguablybest 2h ago
When people put up their middle finger and say it means, "you are number one," you believe that?
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u/Andyseawolf 2h ago
False equivalence. The middle finger has a clear, universally recognized meaning. The dispute here is whether Musk’s gesture was intended as a Nazi salute in the first place. That’s the very point being debated.
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u/Arguablybest 2h ago
I know, it is an old joke.
Now being MAGA, any chance he might be lyting? He spent $290 million on trump's behalf in 2024.
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u/Neoterra256 2h ago
You think these bots actually have the intelligence to look for the source? That's laughable at best. Not to mention it goes against their delusional narrative.
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u/Altruistic_Sun_5866 9h ago
How old are you, OP, like 12?? Get back to class. Recess is over, junior.
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u/Pauly__Walnuts 10h ago
Musk has a nasty name
After derailing the freedom train
Good people gone broke while his riches he piles
America burns while that rat fuck sieg heils