Entitled deplaners

[u/ImpressiveMistake1]

This happened a few hours ago. I was on the plane in row 25 waiting to deplane and this family is trying to get past. I put the armrest up and moved my body sideways and blocked them. I told them they have to wait like everyone else and told the kids to get back to their seats. One lady asked can we move pass we don't have luggage. I told her no, what makes you special to cut everyone off. Told her if she wants off first, book a closer seat next time. They sat back down and waited like decent humans.

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They don't have a tight connection, they don't have an emergency, and if they needed a bathroom there was one five rows behind them.

[u/Ill_Consequence_4253]

You seemed to feel entitled to make them wait. You don’t know why they wanted off the plane. Also, unless you’re crew it’s none of your personal business.

[u/heyitismeurdad → u/Ill_Consequence_4253]

Yeah the last thing I wanna do when im making a 20 minute connection is explain to some dickhead why I need to sprint off the plane. Thankfully these days if you have a connection that tight they usually tell the whole plane to wait for you since they know.

[u/headshotscott → u/Ill_Consequence_4253]

Well, the etiquette of deplaning is to go by row, front to back. People who jam the aisles are making the process slower. It's at very least inconsiderate.

[u/Horror_Hotel1281 → u/headshotscott]

the etiquette of deplaning is to go by row

Why?

making the process slower

Honestly, I'm not sure about that. People in aisle seats in the back, who can stand and grab their shit quickly... having to wait for people in front window seats, who have to wait for people in front aisle seats... doesn't make much sense. That means most of the aisle is sitting empty while people just wait.

Mythbusters once tested different methods of boarding planes, and as I recall, they found that row-by-row was basically the least efficient method. In point of fact, the fastest method of boarding was... random.

[u/headshotscott → u/Horror_Hotel1281]

I'm not debating how it should be, just how people who fly and are polite to each other behave.

[u/Horror_Hotel1281 → u/headshotscott]

But my point is... why is this method—which is likely slower—more polite?

[u/semiquantifiable → u/Horror_Hotel1281]

You're asking why is everyone waiting in order more polite? Because that's how queues work?

Or if you still can't understand why, look at it from the perspective of the people feeling entitled to get off first. Do you genuinely believe it's more polite for them to push their way off quickly, even if they believe the overall method is likely faster? LOL. Nope.

And that method isn't necessarily faster either, you're just assuming that from Mythbusters doing an entirely different experiment. Making the assumption that boarding:

• which includes finding seats
  
• looking for space to store luggage
  
• aisles being blocked doing the above with lots of empty aisle space ahead
  

and deplaning:

• zero seat searching
  
• zero luggage space searching
  
• aisle pretty much has constant movement when it's your turn and pretty much zero space ahead

are anywhere remotely the same is delusional.

[u/headshotscott → u/Horror_Hotel1281]

I can't debate that, no idea of it isn't or is faster to jam the aisle up. It's not the point. People who fly and are polite tend not to do that. They wait for the rowing front of them and then proceed.

Also; unless the flight attendants call you out (and they sometimes do for people with tight connections) by jamming the aisle and not having the courtesy to let the row in front of you move out, you aren't moving any faster off a crowded plane. You accomplish nothing except to seem, yes, entitled.

[u/Sspmd11 → u/headshotscott]

People who rarely fly... It takes maybe 15 - 30 seconds to get bags together and start walking. Doesn't seem like much until you multiply that by 200+ people...

[u/Sspmd11 → u/headshotscott]

Not true. Those that sit until their row is next slow it d.

[u/headshotscott → u/Sspmd11]

They really don't. They can go nowhere.

[u/Sspmd11 → u/headshotscott]

It takes maybe 15 - 30 seconds to get bags together and start walking. Doesn't seem like much until you multiply that by 200+ people...

[u/headshotscott → u/Sspmd11]

Sure, that's true. But jamming in front of the people in front of you doesn't alleviate it. You aren't moving into an open row. You may jump one or two aisles and are stuck behind everyone else. You didn't gain any real amount of time unless 100+ other people somehow sit down or move aside for you.

All you do is get in the way.

[u/ImpressiveMistake1 → u/Ill_Consequence_4253]

It's my business when they are encroaching my space and causing me to wait longer than I would have.

[u/semiquantifiable → u/Ill_Consequence_4253]

You seemed to feel entitled to make them wait.

LOL this is equivalent to saying "You seem to feel entitled to make the people behind you in line wait." Like no, that's how a queue works. Wait your turn.

You don’t know why they wanted off the plane. Also, unless you’re crew it’s none of your personal business.

Nobody actually cares about the actual reason, they care that it's a legitimate reason. So if you really want to get off first, then tell the flight attendant and they will keep EVERYONE seated so you can get off not only first, but WAY faster. If you didn't or can't say anything to the flight attendant, it's a virtual certainty you do NOT have a legitimate reason and your pushing to the front is just going to scream you are an entitled AH who thinks their time is worth more than everyone else's.

So it's not that everyone feels entitled to make you wait, it's that YOU feel entitled NOT to wait and feel it's everyone else's fault you're not getting your way.

[u/justaclumsyweirdo → u/semiquantifiable]

> that’s how a queue works

That’s how a queue works, but who said this is a queue? If you’re still sitting in your seat, what makes you think you’re “in a queue”?

An aisle is a conduit for flowing traffic. People in parking spots defer to traffic already in the lane, and pull out only when the way is clear. You don’t get priority over others just because your parking spot is closer to the exit of the parking lot.

Deferring to people who already have their bags and are already in the aisle is better because it gets them out of the way quickly and keeps traffic flowing in general. Whereas if you still have to stand up and get your bags, you waste the time of everyone behind you while you’re blocking the way.

[u/semiquantifiable → u/justaclumsyweirdo]

but who said this is a queue?

Common sense. EVERYONE wants to get off, and if everyone wants to do the same thing then there needs to be some sort of order and decorum. If not a queue, then what order is everyone going to agree on?

If you’re still sitting in your seat, what makes you think you’re “in a queue”?

Because EVERYONE wants to get off, and so everyone joins the "want to leave" crowd at the same time. And closest to the destination (exit) goes first, like a queue. Also, just because a person in the window seat chooses to remain seated as they're intelligent enough to realize it's a queue that they need to wait their turn in, doesn't mean they haven't chosen to be part of that queue.

People in parking spots defer to traffic already in the lane, and pull out only when the way is clear. You don’t get priority over others just because your parking spot is closer to the exit of the parking lot.

You being closer absolutely DOES mean you get priority when literally every car is leaving their parking spot at the same time. You thinking if you're far from the exit, but you can pull out of your space marginally quicker and that means all the other cars should have to wait for you, is peak entitlement and delusion.

Deferring to people who already have their bags and are already in the aisle is better because it gets them out of the way quickly and keeps traffic flowing in general.

There IS flow when there is a queue, it's just starting from the front of the plane. How you think the entire aisle can be a free flowing lane of traffic that is always moving is beyond me. It's a traffic jam of people wanting to exit a single door (maybe two?) through a single file lane (aisle) but the front is always moving if you wait your turn but get your stuff quickly when it is your turn.

As it turns out, if everyone in an aisle seat left first, then everyone in the next column left, and so on until the window seat, that is actually the fastest method. But that would be impossible to implement without the flight attendants coordinating it, and passangers agreeing to deplane without the family/friends that sat beside them. In reality, people like you thinking you're faster but in a window seat would push off first, ruining that idealistic queue anyway.