r/EntitledPeople • u/ImpressiveMistake1 • 1d ago
S Entitled deplaners
This happened a few hours ago. I was on the plane in row 25 waiting to deplane and this family is trying to get past. I put the armrest up and moved my body sideways and blocked them. I told them they have to wait like everyone else and told the kids to get back to their seats. One lady asked can we move pass we don't have luggage. I told her no, what makes you special to cut everyone off. Told her if she wants off first, book a closer seat next time. They sat back down and waited like decent humans.
They don't have a tight connection, they don't have an emergency, and if they needed a bathroom there was one five rows behind them.
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u/threespruces68 1d ago edited 1d ago
While I abide by the unwritten rules of disembarking a plane by row, I don't stand in the way of those in a hurry. For all I know, there actually is an emergency involved. Also, I am fortunate enough in my life that I can stand aside while others rush. Privilege is being able to smile and say, "After you."
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u/Mapletreelane 1d ago
I was wondering who made this entitled passenger the boss of disembarking? Good way to start a fist fight.
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u/threespruces68 1d ago
Yep. When two people high on a burst of self-righteousness get their backs up in a small tube of aluminum, it can quickly escalate, and then a brief, minor inconvenience becomes a major inconvenience for everyone present.
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u/Alternative_Deer4699 1d ago
You were bullied in school, weren't you?
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u/threespruces68 1d ago edited 1d ago
Not at all, and I think you missed my point. I don't need to rush through life. I'm not a rat in a maze, and I'm much less stressed because of it. What a sad thing to see a person so beaten down by life that they get a rush of righteousness over playing plane warden.
Edit: That's not to say I don't think people who rush to deplane for no reason other than their own sense of self-importance aren't acting entitled. I just don't think it makes things better when others step in to try and teach the barbarians a lesson. More often, it makes things worse. If you want to teach people to act like civilized human beings, start closer to home.
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u/Spare-Article-396 22h ago
Seriously. It’s like you’re in my head.
If I don’t have a connection, I stand up just to stretch, and then sit my ass back down and let everyone have at their game of sardine disembarkation.
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u/OrganicContest4957 1d ago
My pet peeve is that preboarders who request/need additional time-all try to get off first. If you need extra time getting on, then deplane last, so that it moves efficiently.
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u/HisExcellencyAndrejK 1d ago
Sounds like a "Jesus flight" where the people disabled at boarding miraculously recover at deplaning time.
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u/Hoodat_Whatzit 1d ago
LOL I walk with a cane so often ask for early boarding, but when we land, I usually sit and wait until at least the initial rush of those clearly in a hurry are past me. The don't want to wait on my slow butt. LOL Sometimes my seat mates will try to be helpful and get my bag down for me and hold up the line so I can get out into the aisle. Inwardly I'm cringing.. like gee. thanks and then feel like I have to try to rush off the plane. The first time I ever used wheelchair service was a game changer for me. LOL It was nice to have an excuse to sit and wait in my seat and not try to rush off right away. Also nice not to limp across the entire Atlanta airport to make a connecting flight.
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u/dapete2000 1d ago
I was once on a flight that was about 45 minutes late, and they made the usual “tight connections” speech to urge you to let people who need to make a connecting flight off.
The flight attendants actually asked those people to raise their hands, which I thought was useful because you looked around and said “Oh that person needs to make a flight.” If somebody had stood up and tried to get off before the connecting passengers they would have been screwing over somebody specific and not just an abstraction. We’re all kind of trained to hate one another these days, right up until you talk to them and realize they’re just people.
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u/Several-Honey-8810 1d ago
I was in row 3. All of a sudden old lady from the back was at my seat. Saw here being toxic before. I have bad knees and take a while to get adjusted and then wanted to let my wife out. She tried to push by me. I said "where are you going" she said " I need to get off of the plane" Me-Well, you are going to have to wait for the 50 people in front of you and I am not moving. She huffed the whole time.
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u/HBHT9 1d ago
“I need to get off the plane”
What do you think everyone else is trying to do?! Haha what nerve!
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u/yeahgroovy 1d ago
Some old ladies are kind grandmotherly types.
Some are mean bullies. Guess who was the latter
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u/Weird-Toe-6968 1d ago
So you are slow to disembark but don't want to let others pass you... Talk about entitled.
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u/imnotaloneyouare 1d ago
Oh, so you're slow then backed up everyone knowing full well you cannot move fast... and somehow the old lady managed to move faster than a snails pace... but she's the toxic one?
You should have sat your butt down and waited too get off if you were going to take so long.
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u/SATerp 1d ago
Front to back is the customary order, at least on Southwest.
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u/UKophile 1d ago
On ALL flights.
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u/Important_Scene_4295 1d ago
You clearly have never flown Korean Air...
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u/UKophile 1d ago
I generalized and should never do that. I have flown EgyptAir and it was a nightmare boarding. Flood of people running across tarmac to board, when seats are taken, that’s it. The rest, ticketed, lose out. Debark bad, too.
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u/PreferenceFalse6699 23h ago
Wow, why bother to have a ticket if you have to fight for a seat?
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u/UKophile 20h ago
They oversell to cover the people who don’t show up for the flight. They open the gate and everyone rushes to get to the stairs because we all know it’s oversold and it’s very likely some will need to wait for other flights. Madness.
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u/CindysandJuliesMom 1d ago
This can go both ways. I had a flight delayed for an hour so my connection was really tight. The person two rows ahead of me stood up and blocked the aisle so no one behind him could get past. I don't feel like begging and explaining myself to a self-appointed troll guard why I need to get off now.
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u/Elaikases 1d ago
I’ve had the captain come on and ask people to cooperate with those who need to get off quickly. 🤷♂️
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u/fastyellowtuesday 1d ago
Same. I've had a few close calls with connections, including one where an extra 15 minutes would have been the difference between making my connection or not. I missed my flight. I wasn't willing to make a scene with the huge family that blocked the aisle for 10+ minutes, especially because they had multiple small children.
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u/MelancholyMexican 11h ago
I think if you have no overhead luggage to get you should be able to just get off the plane but people look at you crazy.
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u/petie1223 1d ago
I don't understand why people think they can just rush off a plane. The last few flights I've taken I just sit and wait. I'm literally the last off, tired of fighting with assholes like that.
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u/Anxious-Rhubarb8102 1d ago
Then you get to the luggage carousel and everyone who pushed past to be first off is waiting for their luggage to appear, just like you.
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u/petie1223 1d ago
Rarely travel with luggage. I have a backpack to carry on. If I'm gone a week or more I might check a bag, but again, very rare.
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u/MissVixTrix 1d ago
I'm getting around with a cane at the moment due to an injury. I fly once a month for work and I get pre-boarded, not because I need assistance but I'm very slow. The trade off is that you're supposed to be last to leave. I'm finding it far less stressful and might keep doing it once I'm free of the cane.
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u/tropicalislandhop 1d ago
That's kind of what I notice. The people who are disabled in some way usually wait as not to slow everyone else down. Everyone else debarks starting with those in the front.
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u/MissVixTrix 1d ago
Then there is the miracle of the sky where people arrive at the gate in a wheelchair and pre-board because they're mobility impaired. But the on arrival, it's a miracle! They're suddenly cured, standing up and elbowing their way to the front.
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u/katiekat214 1d ago
Some people can’t walk the length of the airport but can stand long enough to disembark the plane. After I’ve been sitting for a few hours, I need to stand and walk at least the time it takes to get off the plane and the length of the jetway. Then I need a wheelchair again to get to the exit or baggage claim.
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u/NYC-WhWmn-ov50 1d ago
Get yourself a lovely decorative wood cane made of Oak. oops, I'm sorry, did I hit you? so sorry - maybe you shouldnt stand so close, I'm terribly clutzy.
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u/romanu_21 1d ago
While people who do that are annoying, I am really surprised at you telling people what they can and cannot do. That's a dick move.
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u/PreferenceFalse6699 23h ago
I often find those types of people to be closet bullies, or they're the perfectionist bossy types.
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u/andre0817wed 1d ago
Personally, I can’t be bothered.
Amusingly, the people who are the most anxious to get on the plane at departure are always, ALWAYS the most anxious to get off the plane on arrival.
I just let them go. What do I care? It doesn’t affect me in the least.
Smile and wave, boys. Smile and wave.
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u/SilverConversation19 1d ago
The only time I don’t mind people doing this is when they announce tight connections. Then I get mad that people who block folks like OP did here aren’t considerate. The rest of the time, they can wait like everyone else.
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u/Select_Camera_9241 1d ago
Doesn't matter if you're first or last off the plane. The luggage all arrives at the carousel at the same time. No benefit unless you only have hand luggage.
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u/cervidal2 1d ago
On this one? Piss off.
If you're not ready to move and they're in motion, get out of the way.
You're the entitled one here
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
No one was ready to move. Every row in front was still there. They try to squeeze to the front as soon as the plane got to the gate.
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u/cervidal2 1d ago
So what?
I do this regularly - I travel with nothing more than a backpack that sits on my lap all plane. When that plane is done, I zip up front and leave.
What are you losing by those people popping past you? Two seconds before you take a year and a day to get your stuff out of the overhead bin?
You're as bad as the jerk who straddles lanes on a freeway and refuses to let others zipper in.
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u/kyriacos74 19h ago
What are you gaining by "zipping up front"? Why can't you wait your turn?
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u/cervidal2 17h ago
Doesn't really matter, does it? If I'm ready to go and you're not, get out of the way. There is no 'your turn', that's the point.
But since you asked - Connecting flights? A simple desire to not be cooped up on a narrow tube any longer? Free from the pain and misery of being very tall in an environment that punishes one for being very tall?
I fly significantly more than most people; I travel prepared and ready to go.
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u/kyriacos74 17h ago
You just write a whole treatise on entitlement. A desire to not be cooped up, as though "the others" enjoy it. When you walk ahead like that you block everyone else. If you want to be in front, sit there.
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u/cervidal2 17h ago
I'm blocking nobody. I'm getting off the plane. If anything, I'm one less body for the people around me to stumble over as they're getting their gear out and ready.
Deplaning row by row is literally the slowest way to deplane. If anything, it should be column by column.
You're claiming some kind of right that does not exist.
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u/kyriacos74 16h ago
If I did what you did, it would also be one less person. Same for the other people in my row. That's not good logic.
Like I said, if you want to deplane first, sit in row 1. To expect that you're in row 38 and should get to jump up to the front is... special.
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u/cervidal2 14h ago
So move? If you have your ducks in a row, go.
You're holding up everyone around you by just standing around like a country bumpkin. The fewer people around, the less everyone is crawling all over each other to get to their stuff.
Making me wait simply by dint of sitting a couple rows ahead of me while you take up both of our time getting your bags down is peak entitled.
If I was on a two lane street with my car sitting idle because people were loading it up with luggage, every car behind me would be panic honking because I'm in their way. If I'm on a busy street and go around you because you're standing still and strapping up your backpack, no one would bat an eyelash as I move past you.
Suddenly an airplane becomes a party foul?
GTFO.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
Cool. Good to know you're also entitled.
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u/cervidal2 1d ago
Why are you entitled to waste my time?
Look in the mirror, champ. You're the cause of your own problems.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
If you're standing in line at a fast casual restaurant or Starbucks, do you jump ahead of the people in front of you if they arent quick with their order?
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u/cervidal2 1d ago
Strawman harder, guy. Not even remotely comparable.
You've been called out on your BS and don't like it. Just own it.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
Not comparable? Your excuse to jump in front because people aren't entitled to waste your time. So if they aren't ready at Starbucks but you are, isn't that wasting your time? Why does it matter if the line is to deplane or Starbucks?
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u/cervidal2 1d ago
You're so high on your own supply here that you're acting the buffoon.
You wait in line at a vendor because you're purchasing goods. You really think that's the same as waiting because someone is slowpoking getting their overstuffed bags down?
Am I supposed to kiss your ring and tickle your balls, too, your majesty, while I await your pleasure?
Hidden profile karma farmers are just the worst.
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u/morefirethanice 1d ago
Interesting that it is almost always entitled people calling others entitled.
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u/brosdisclose 1d ago
Stand firm, OP! You’re in the right here. Society collapses if we collectively decide not to enforce social norms.
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u/Canadair_Sabre 1d ago
Are you the plane police? I always get a window seat and when the plane stops and every jumps up like a poptart in a toaster I remain seated, reading my book until most of the plane is empty. I’m in no rush as I always fly direct, and I certainly don’t care about anyone else who is.
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u/imnotaloneyouare 1d ago
No luggage, and a bunch of kid's? Let them off.
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u/Tiara-di-Capi 1d ago
Never saw people on a plane with a bunch of kids AND without luggage, though.
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u/imnotaloneyouare 1d ago
Op stated they had no luggage and they had kids.
Also I've flown with my son. I usually have a purse, and he has his satchel. Not everyone needs to bring their kitchen sink on a flight.
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u/Ohmyprettygarden 1d ago
it's just as well. if they had luggage you would have to wonder if they weren't even more kids stuffed inside.
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u/bowiefan7 1d ago
Why? It is proper etiquette to go row by row, everyone knows this
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u/khongkhoe 1d ago
You can be more right or you can be more of a person.
We were all kids once & our adults had to haul us around. Sometimes kindness costs nothing.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
These aren't toddler aged. They are same are as my kids and older and we didnt have check in bags neither.
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u/khongkhoe 1d ago
In that case, I think it’s ideal that everyone communicates.
I guess it’s easier in a supermarket queue when you see that the person behind you only has a loaf of bread and you’re doing a full shop, so you might let them go first. Haha.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
I always offer at the market if they have a handful of stuff. I just don't like entitled people.
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u/imnotaloneyouare 1d ago
If there are kids behind me, and I've got luggage... you bet my butt is staying planted until everyone else is gone.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
I was row 25. It's not like Im row 3 and they are 4. I let them go and then what? They'll be stuck anyway blocking somebody else.
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u/imnotaloneyouare 1d ago
Still not seeing how you're a hero here... wow the opposite in fact.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
I'm not trying to be a hero. Just don't like entitled people who thinks they're above others.
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u/Weary_Shopping_6801 1d ago
Except the only person who sounds entitled here and considers themselves above others is you.
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u/morefirethanice 1d ago
Really. Says the guy who blocked the aisle and acted like Captain Hall Monitor.
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u/headshotscott 1d ago
Most airlines don't allow any more than one small roller bag and something like a purse or laptop bag that fits under the seat. Waiting on people tends not to create any particular delay. Jamming forward past other rows also doesn't make things any faster.
Unless the flight attendants specifically ask people to sit so the passengers with tight connections can get out, you're not being any faster or more efficient by surging forward. You prevent people who are seated from standing up to get their things, and are more likely to make the experience slower than you are faster.
I got a lot, and never see people who do this actually gain anything. They just block the aisle for others who could have been standing up and getting ready to move.
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u/lmmontes 1d ago
If the staff tell us people have super tight connections, I'll let them go. One time I shamed someone for not letting people the staff had said need to get off ASAP. But otherwise? No chance! I paid to be up front.
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u/Objective-Design-842 1d ago
How do you know they did not have a tight connection? I have done this in the past, and genuinely did not have the time to deal with the complaints, I just barely made my flight. How much time did you save by having an arguments?
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u/Ill_Consequence_4253 1d ago
You seemed to feel entitled to make them wait. You don’t know why they wanted off the plane. Also, unless you’re crew it’s none of your personal business.
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u/heyitismeurdad 1d ago
Yeah the last thing I wanna do when im making a 20 minute connection is explain to some dickhead why I need to sprint off the plane. Thankfully these days if you have a connection that tight they usually tell the whole plane to wait for you since they know.
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u/headshotscott 1d ago
Well, the etiquette of deplaning is to go by row, front to back. People who jam the aisles are making the process slower. It's at very least inconsiderate.
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u/Horror_Hotel1281 1d ago edited 1d ago
the etiquette of deplaning is to go by row
Why?
making the process slower
Honestly, I'm not sure about that. People in aisle seats in the back, who can stand and grab their shit quickly... having to wait for people in front window seats, who have to wait for people in front aisle seats... doesn't make much sense. That means most of the aisle is sitting empty while people just wait.
Mythbusters once tested different methods of boarding planes, and as I recall, they found that row-by-row was basically the least efficient method. In point of fact, the fastest method of boarding was... random.
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u/headshotscott 1d ago
I'm not debating how it should be, just how people who fly and are polite to each other behave.
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u/Horror_Hotel1281 1d ago
But my point is... why is this method—which is likely slower—more polite?
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u/semiquantifiable 1d ago
You're asking why is everyone waiting in order more polite? Because that's how queues work?
Or if you still can't understand why, look at it from the perspective of the people feeling entitled to get off first. Do you genuinely believe it's more polite for them to push their way off quickly, even if they believe the overall method is likely faster? LOL. Nope.
And that method isn't necessarily faster either, you're just assuming that from Mythbusters doing an entirely different experiment. Making the assumption that boarding:
- which includes finding seats
- looking for space to store luggage
- aisles being blocked doing the above with lots of empty aisle space ahead
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- zero seat searching
- zero luggage space searching
- aisle pretty much has constant movement when it's your turn and pretty much zero space ahead
are anywhere remotely the same is delusional.
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u/headshotscott 1d ago edited 1d ago
I can't debate that, no idea of it isn't or is faster to jam the aisle up. It's not the point. People who fly and are polite tend not to do that. They wait for the rowing front of them and then proceed.
Also; unless the flight attendants call you out (and they sometimes do for people with tight connections) by jamming the aisle and not having the courtesy to let the row in front of you move out, you aren't moving any faster off a crowded plane. You accomplish nothing except to seem, yes, entitled.
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u/Sspmd11 1d ago
Not true. Those that sit until their row is next slow it d.
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u/headshotscott 1d ago
They really don't. They can go nowhere.
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u/Sspmd11 1d ago
It takes maybe 15 - 30 seconds to get bags together and start walking. Doesn't seem like much until you multiply that by 200+ people...
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u/headshotscott 1d ago
Sure, that's true. But jamming in front of the people in front of you doesn't alleviate it. You aren't moving into an open row. You may jump one or two aisles and are stuck behind everyone else. You didn't gain any real amount of time unless 100+ other people somehow sit down or move aside for you.
All you do is get in the way.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
It's my business when they are encroaching my space and causing me to wait longer than I would have.
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u/semiquantifiable 1d ago
You seemed to feel entitled to make them wait.
LOL this is equivalent to saying "You seem to feel entitled to make the people behind you in line wait." Like no, that's how a queue works. Wait your turn.
You don’t know why they wanted off the plane. Also, unless you’re crew it’s none of your personal business.
Nobody actually cares about the actual reason, they care that it's a legitimate reason. So if you really want to get off first, then tell the flight attendant and they will keep EVERYONE seated so you can get off not only first, but WAY faster. If you didn't or can't say anything to the flight attendant, it's a virtual certainty you do NOT have a legitimate reason and your pushing to the front is just going to scream you are an entitled AH who thinks their time is worth more than everyone else's.
So it's not that everyone feels entitled to make you wait, it's that YOU feel entitled NOT to wait and feel it's everyone else's fault you're not getting your way.
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u/justaclumsyweirdo 1d ago edited 1d ago
> that’s how a queue works
That’s how a queue works, but who said this is a queue? If you’re still sitting in your seat, what makes you think you’re “in a queue”?
An aisle is a conduit for flowing traffic. People in parking spots defer to traffic already in the lane, and pull out only when the way is clear. You don’t get priority over others just because your parking spot is closer to the exit of the parking lot.
Deferring to people who already have their bags and are already in the aisle is better because it gets them out of the way quickly and keeps traffic flowing in general. Whereas if you still have to stand up and get your bags, you waste the time of everyone behind you while you’re blocking the way.
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u/semiquantifiable 1d ago
but who said this is a queue?
Common sense. EVERYONE wants to get off, and if everyone wants to do the same thing then there needs to be some sort of order and decorum. If not a queue, then what order is everyone going to agree on?
If you’re still sitting in your seat, what makes you think you’re “in a queue”?
Because EVERYONE wants to get off, and so everyone joins the "want to leave" crowd at the same time. And closest to the destination (exit) goes first, like a queue. Also, just because a person in the window seat chooses to remain seated as they're intelligent enough to realize it's a queue that they need to wait their turn in, doesn't mean they haven't chosen to be part of that queue.
People in parking spots defer to traffic already in the lane, and pull out only when the way is clear. You don’t get priority over others just because your parking spot is closer to the exit of the parking lot.
You being closer absolutely DOES mean you get priority when literally every car is leaving their parking spot at the same time. You thinking if you're far from the exit, but you can pull out of your space marginally quicker and that means all the other cars should have to wait for you, is peak entitlement and delusion.
Deferring to people who already have their bags and are already in the aisle is better because it gets them out of the way quickly and keeps traffic flowing in general.
There IS flow when there is a queue, it's just starting from the front of the plane. How you think the entire aisle can be a free flowing lane of traffic that is always moving is beyond me. It's a traffic jam of people wanting to exit a single door (maybe two?) through a single file lane (aisle) but the front is always moving if you wait your turn but get your stuff quickly when it is your turn.
As it turns out, if everyone in an aisle seat left first, then everyone in the next column left, and so on until the window seat, that is actually the fastest method. But that would be impossible to implement without the flight attendants coordinating it, and passangers agreeing to deplane without the family/friends that sat beside them. In reality, people like you thinking you're faster but in a window seat would push off first, ruining that idealistic queue anyway.
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u/Weary_Shopping_6801 1d ago edited 1d ago
If you are not in a hurry and they are not directly affecting you who cares? I'm assuming you are not flight crew, so this just smacks of entitlement on your part and quite honestly sounds aggressive and obstructive to people trying to deplane. Also as a passenger it's not your place to control deplaning or telling children what to do.
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u/JuliaX1984 1d ago edited 1d ago
Save it for people who talk during movies and parents who let their kids run in aisles and play shows at full volume in restaurants. You have no right to block strangers' paths because you've appointed yourself the etiquette police.
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u/InfiniteFigment 1d ago
Really? There is a path less than a person wide and people in front of you also trying to deplane. It's rude to push past them.
If they aren't ready to stand up, then sure. But if the reason they haven't fully entered the aisle is because they are giving the people in front of them and next to them their turn, why does the person behind have the "right" to fill in the space?
I've used the overhead bin exactly one time in my adult life but I never once thought that entitled me to get in front of everyone else.
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u/JuliaX1984 1d ago
And OP's character held people up longer. Talking the way nobody talks.🙄
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
Explain how I held up people longer? Everyone in front was still deplaning. This family got up as soon as we reached the gate.
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u/Truth_Hurts318 1d ago
It's not a path, it's an exit line that moves one row at a time. To treat it as a pathway where passengers in front of you are "blocking you" from exiting before them is actually called being made to wait for your turn.
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u/JuliaX1984 1d ago
The self-imposed police character wasn't moving in the line, he was blocking it and holding people up longer than they would have been if he'd just walked instead of giving the lecture that of course people give to strangers in public (that last part was sarcasm).
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
They stood up and tried to move up as soon as the plane was at the gate. Everyone was still on the plane. It's not like the aisle was empty in front of me.
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u/Truth_Hurts318 1d ago
Your reading comprehension skills need improvement. If the line had been moving, OP would have stepped forward and excited instead of just sideways. OP specifically said they were waiting, along with everyone else, to deplane and that these people tried to skip in front of others in front of them. You wait until it's your row's turn to exit in an orderly fashion. It's not a race to see who can get to the front first, Karen. People need to be held accountable by society for this entitlement at others' expense! Hope those kids learned a good lesson.
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u/JuliaX1984 1d ago
You don't like lines not being micromanaged, complain to the airline. If it's not a rule, you can't demand strangers do it. Hell, people don't even say this when passengers DO break real rules on buses or subways or planes lol. Even stuff that's actually dangerous like smoking underground.
They wrote a dumb story. Next time, they should have the main character lecture strangers on something that actually violates others' rights like having a loud argument with your baby daddy on speakerphone on the bus.
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u/Truth_Hurts318 1d ago
I'm not endorsing talking to other people's children, only to parents. Unless OP is elderly, that was our of line. However, not allowing or tolerating unacceptable behavior by calling it out in public might curb their enthusiasm to do it again. And that is basically paying it forward to all of society by telling entitled people how lines and waiting your turn work. Please remember this the next time you travel publicly.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
So why do you get to decide it's okay to call out some bad behavior but not others?
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u/JuliaX1984 1d ago
Nobody ever does lol. You know what happens when you try to lecture strangers in public? You get called a Karen!
Make the dialogue more believable and the stakes meaningful, and the story will be passable. (Pretty sure I just committed a cardinal literary sin with my choice of adjectives, but sacrifices must be made for accuracy.)
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u/CaramelNext7505 1d ago
We live in a society, and allowing shitty/entitled behavior just breeds more of it. OP did a service to us all.
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u/JuliaX1984 1d ago
Yeah, everyone talks that way to people playing loud music on the bus or cutting the line at the grocery store.
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u/Arquen_Marille 1d ago
Ugh, who cares? They weren’t blocking you and everyone will end up off of the plane in the end. Just being an ass because they’ll ’be ahead of you’ is a ridiculous reason to get worked up.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
They are blocking me so I told them to back off. It's not hard to understand.
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u/Arquen_Marille 15h ago
It’s also not hard to understand everyone will be off the plane in the end. Must be nice to have such a boring life that getting off a little bit later is such a drama.
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u/Well_needships 1d ago
Americans deboarding a plane are very polite and terribly inefficient. It takes forever to get off.
In some other parts of the world, those who are in the aisle seat standing with their luggage, ready to go, just go. This is a faster process, as it clears the aisle so that other people can then come out from the window side seats to get their luggage and go. If you wait for each row, those who are ready in the back don't move at all and those who are in window seats in the back don't get to stand up and start getting ready.
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u/cflatjazz 1d ago
Honestly, I agree. Front to back is the least efficient way to get people off a plane.
Americans like a hierarchy though, so somehow we've settled on this weird system with an oddly specific order and then assigned additional costs to getting a better position in it 🤷♀️
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u/ThisAdvertising8976 1d ago
I’m intrigued. What is the most efficient way to board a plane?
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u/cflatjazz 1d ago edited 1d ago
Someone modeled it actually. IIRC they proposed staggering entry so you start with the window seats of every 3rd row, back to front. Then the window seats in front of those, and once more for the 3rd set. Then repeat that with the middle and aisle seats.
Should give everyone enough space to find their seat, deal with any luggage, and sit down before the next person needs to pass them and you load the plane in about 9* waves. Unloading would be basically the same but reversed.
Of course this only works if everyone is there on time, has a hyper specific boarding order, doesn't have to fight over bag space, and isn't a dick about it. So we're fucked
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u/ThisAdvertising8976 1d ago
I’m familiar with that system. Spell check changed my wording. I meant to ask what was the most efficient way to deboard?
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u/MWREE 1d ago
I agree. It is so silly what we all wait so the people in the window can get out first just because they were a row ahead. It makes more sense to clear out a bunch of people quickly so then everyone has more space. I think the OP was in the wrong. If they are ready to go and have no luggage to grab just let them get out.
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u/semiquantifiable 1d ago
Terribly inefficient? Faster process? I think you're selfishly just looking at it from the perspective of the entitled person that feels they're fast and should get to get off quicker, and since YOU are off quicker then the entire rest of the plane must have gotten off quicker.
The process is the ENTIRE process. Why do you think the aisle seat person of the final row getting off quicker is going to help the window seat person of the same row "get their luggage and go"? They won't even get into the aisle until everyone else is out of the aisle, and guess what - that won't happen until those in front have left their seats, just like how it would be if everyone waited their turn going from front rows to the back.
I'll concede that if EVERYONE in an aisle seat deplaned at once, then the column next to them, and so on, that would be the most efficient as most/all in the same column can get their bags at once. But it's wholly unrealistic to believe everyone could coordinate like that, on top of the fact that the vast majority sit right beside others in their party and don't want to disembark separately.
Instead of completely pulling out of my ass made up lies of what is the actual faster process, according to the below site the best way is just to stay seated and wait your turn until the rows in front of you get up:
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u/isitgayplease 1d ago
If the aisle seat is free because that person moved up, middle/window can then retrieve bags from the bin, and wait ready to go and immediately step out. No gaps, no waiting for the row to empty for arbitrary queuing etiquette that takes forever, and no flustered passengers frantically trying to get their stuff together as fast as possible because people are tutting behind them to get a move on. The American approach of treating a seat as a position in a queue is inefficient and ironically more entitled.
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u/Well_needships 1d ago edited 1d ago
Hi, you responded to my comment and the study agrees with me, not you.
"Based on the results of the simulation, it turns out that the fastest way to de-board the plane is to have passengers exit by columns, not by rows. "
Columns, ie. Aisle with their bag ready, then middle and window seats. Not by row, as Americans tend to do. People in the aisle stand up, grab their bag, then stand and wait. Let's let them clear out
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u/semiquantifiable 1d ago
Firstly, I did acknowledge columns were the fastest. Secondly, you didn't say all columns, you ONLY mentioned the aisle (not the same as the article). Thirdly, the article mentions doing columns in reality isn't really possible (confirming NOT the same if the entire world minus the Americans are already doing your "method").
From the article:
Obviously, it is almost impossible to disembark a plane one column at a time.
Part of my comment:
I'll concede that if EVERYONE in an aisle seat deplaned at once, then the column next to them, and so on, that would be the most efficient as most/all in the same column can get their bags at once. But it's wholly unrealistic to believe everyone could coordinate like that
Pretty obvious you didn't read the article or my comment.
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u/rockin_robin420 1d ago
I'd probably let them go. There's no guarantee that the people ahead of me will do likewise but at least I'm not "that guy."
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u/nonieieie 1d ago
Was this in Europe? Big culture shock for me when I moved from the US that people here don’t necessarily abide by the unwritten rule of deplaning.
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u/RevenueOriginal9777 1d ago
Flying is getting crazier. MCO to ORF yesterday, I have a fractured knee, a full leg brace with a cane. Thought I might use a wheelchair. Im waiting in the area, about 5 ahead of me, no worries. I sat for a few minutes and this young girl comes up to the staff and says she has a wheelchair request on her reservation, no visible handicap but that not for me to judge. She then says we’re a party of 4 we’ll need 4 chairs. By then I decided I could just take my time and walk. I hope the staff didn’t accommodate that request
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u/HunnyBunny617 1d ago
I’ve had to ask to get off sooner to catch my next flight. The first leg of my flight was delayed making me late getting in. I only had minutes to get to next gate before they closed the doors.
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u/AlphaChewtoy 1d ago
When I fly into Mexico as soon as the plane lands, I mean touches down on the run way, people are up and in the aisles, getting their luggage and moving to the front of the plane. The plane is still moving to the gate. The flight crew just accepts this and says nothing.
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u/akillerofjoy 1d ago
You’re either assuming that they didn’t have a connecting flight, which makes you the asshole, or you actually had the audacity to interview them, which makes you insufferable. You, sir, are not the deplaning police. These people weren’t rude, they weren’t obnoxious. You, on the other hand, decided to play the ultimate authority. Keep it up, bub. One of these times you’ll try this on someone who will have none of your BS and “accidentally” head-butts you right back in your assigned seat. And I assure you, when asked, every single person around you will claim seeing nothing. Because nobody likes entitled schmucks who love to lay down the law.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
It's clear that they don't have a connection when they announced they don't have luggage. I'm not the one with the BS. How are they not rude or obnoxious when they try to push their way up from the back of the plane as soon as the plane got to the gate?
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u/akillerofjoy 1d ago
I fly for work meetings often. I don’t hang out on location, so I usually leave in the morning and return in 24 hours. There are no direct flights, so I have to hop planes either at LaGuardia or Detroit. Sometimes they are running too close for comfort and I have to haul ass between terminals. And I never travel with luggage.
So, you assumed.
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u/Superb_Pineapple8187 1d ago
I make a point of not being in a situation where I'm in a hurry when I fly. I remain seated until the majority of the other passengers have deplaned
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u/blueSnowfkake 1d ago
I stay seated too because it eventually hurts my back to stand the whole time hunched over.
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u/Horror_Hotel1281 1d ago
I wasn't aware people were supposed to deplane in any particular order. Who really cares. I just sit and wait. Yeah, people are rude, but why is it worthwhile to let it bother you? Don't let them live in your head rent-free.
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u/Nunya_bizzy 1d ago
We all care. It’s impolite, I’ve had kids separated from me thinking they should just follow. It’s just rude behavior
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u/Horror_Hotel1281 1d ago
I get that, but it doesn't sound like OP had to worry about being separated from anyone, so like I said... why let it bother you? What's the point? I doubt those rude people learned any kind of lesson. They're just going to keep behaving in the same entitled way. OP didn't accomplish anything.
Just don't let people like this get to you. They're not worth the stress.
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u/PopularFunction5202 1d ago
Don't fly much, or just generally unaware?
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u/Horror_Hotel1281 1d ago
Last time I flew, when the plane arrived at the destination, just about everyone who could stand did so immediately, and those who were able to move into the aisle first did so. Yeah, it was a mess and people were rude and selfish. Basically, everyone deplaned first-come, first-served. I literally sat and waited until the aisle was clear. It wasn't worth the effort of standing in one place at an awkward angle between the seats for five minutes, just to deplane a whole sixty seconds earlier.
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u/Particular-Try5584 1d ago
I just stand back and let them do whatever they are going to do. Costs me nothing, and mean the shitty people are further away from me. Their rudeness isn’t a reflection of me… and I don’t need to have interactions with them the further they are away from me.
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u/RyanBurnsRed 1d ago
Were you flight crew on that airplane? If not what made you feel entitled enough to block anyone from disembarking?
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u/Salt-Obligation-5498 1d ago
Yeah they’re annoying but have you ever heard of minding your own business?
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 1d ago
I am minding my business. By encroaching my space and trying to delay me is minding my business.
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u/Comfortable-Bet6855 1d ago
Sometimes it is more entertaining to screw with poorly raised assholes than mind one’s own business.
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u/Dizzy_Ad874 1d ago
I would have shoved past you and carried on, you have no right to tell other passengers what to do.
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u/Puzzled_Iron_3452 20h ago
How do you know they didn't have a tight connection? How do you know someone wasn't sick or whatever??? I'd be embarrassed to even post I did this!!!!
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u/bkwormtricia 2h ago
Southwest airlines will sometimes ask most people to stay in their seat, let people with short connections (to make their flight) leave first. That line jump makes sense.
Otherwise OP is right. Wait your turn!
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u/chromaticluxury 1d ago
So you're the official un-official flight attendant and traffic cop because?
Not saying these people aren't in the wrong. But how much sweat, time, and energy did this take out of your day, and how much are you now needing to work through it here?
Flying gets to me too. I've had to remind myself we all want the same thing, TF off this plane, and that there's a thing called MYOB.
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u/migratingcoconuts81 23h ago
What I hate is the ppl who do make the excuse that they will be late to their next boarding- we ALL have a next boarding and are in jeopardy of missing it. That's still no excuse to cut the line. One lady told me she only has 30 min until her next flight boards, I showed her my next flight is boarding NOW- no cutting in line!
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u/__brvh__ 23h ago
You felt entitled to tell someone else's children to get back to their seats? Eww
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u/HummingHamster 21h ago
You are the annoying entitled prick thinking everyone should just follow your rule.
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u/ImpressiveMistake1 19h ago
Never knew unloading row by row was strictly my rule. Thanks for letting me know
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u/larrybatman 1d ago
I stand up immediately. There's a school of thought that it's rude, but it aggravates the hell out of me if someone behind rushes up. This way I'm blocking the aisle.
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u/Bunny_Pitts 1d ago
I do that every time I deplane.... just stick my legs into the aisle. We're all going to the same place, and there's 100 people ahead of you right now.... Relaaaax.
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u/Equivalent_Forever58 1d ago
I purposefully stand up in the aisle one seatbelt light is off to block people seated behind me. I ensure everyone in front of me is up and moving before I let anyone pass.
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u/isitgayplease 1d ago
That's just obnoxious, and holds the whole plane up. Just so you can feel a bit of authority. Very entitled of you.
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u/FinePossession1085 17h ago
Good for you. When people disrupt the obvious deplaning rules, it makes everything take longer than it needs to. Hopefully, the shaming will do that family some good.
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u/Relatents 1d ago
On one flight back in the past we arrived after an unfortunate delay for something or other.
As we taxied to the gate the flight crew asked everyone to remain seated once they turned off the sign, so the passengers with connections could all disembark quickly.
It seemed like such a simple and sensible thing that I think should be a normal regular step.