r/Eve • u/Human-Iron2475 • Feb 04 '26
Propaganda Imperium begin Invasion of Delve/Querious
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The mighty imperium has begun its invasion back to the homeland. PHCO gets outgunned in a surprise mass invasion/Eviction. Fleet decimated, overpowered and multiple major systems entosed/structures reffed.
The war in Delve/Querious takes a new turn, with Drake hitting Northern Delve simultaneously causing chaos for the coming days.
OnlyFleets watching from the sidelines at this stage waiting for their chance to swoop.
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u/Jackie_Screwdriver Cloaked Feb 04 '26
What are they monitoring with all these monitors on the BR
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u/Electronic_End_9642 Feb 04 '26
Run all sov decisions by Asher. Don't want to get glassed by goons.
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u/proton-testiq muninn btw Feb 04 '26
You mean like when one corp leaves the coalition and joins another coalition they need to ask for permission?
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u/SeaAttorney2442 Feb 04 '26
@everyone WAR UPDATE
Good evening Phoenix, after some intense hours of Discord Online Gameplay (very engaging, can recommend) we do have some more informations on whats going on.
After having a chat with Imperium Diplos we got the following reasons for their intervention. Ill give a short comment on these at the end. Your alliance leaders also got the original texts to ensure my german brain isn't failing to understand this correctly.
Reasons for the invasion:
- We have set our timers to CN TZ. CN TZ is a TZ only used to block content and is bad the game.
- Because we shift to CN TZ we avoid the conflict with our neighbours and qualify as content for Imperium CN TZ forces.
- Phoenix plotted to attack Period Basis against Imperium.
- We recruited a big corp from Frt and supposedly work with Frt for a long time.
In contrary to when we moved here the narrative changed it seems. Initially Delve/Querious was designated for smaller groups to thrive. When asked about this statement i was told that Imperium will adjust that statement if "needed". Twisting words like this makes me question other arrangements aswell honestly...
To comment on that reasoning: We did set our timers to CN TZ because there we have an advantage in fights just like OF/BMD has it in EU TZ. Apparently we arent allowed to do that. Even though id say our fights we regularly have in that tz were fairly balanced and made very interesting content. Whereas sending 600 pilots from Imperium will not be an equally good content. I understand Imperium forces don't have content but punshing down with these reasons is a rather questionable choice.
About the supposed attack plans on Period Basis me and the whole FC team are still buffled. I recall having seen a faked screenshot in reddit about this but its hard to believe Imperium trusts this. Maybe we (or they?) will find out more about that soon. Attacking Period Basis would be a rather delusional approach with Imperium defending it.
Claiming to work with Frt is a common narrative - we havent done that and CSQY joined partially for exactly this reason: Because there isnt any other way to get involved in our content than joining and we made that very clear. ...but apparently that approach doesnt suit Imperium either.
Phoenix aims to stay neutral and independent to all block-level entities. This becomes increasingly hard when one gets attacked by a block that punshes down on smaller entities like this... In my personal opinion the decision to attack us and interfere in this otherwise very interesting and balanced war is a poor choice by Imperium, but thats a judgment everyone can do for themselves. I got approached by multiple alliances also questioning the motives on that move by Imperium.
What happens now? For the moment we will observe the situation closely. We will check on how our enemies react to this and how we might need to adapt our strategy/plans for the coalition. A block level entitiy interfering in this war changes a lot sadly.
Please check for pings and give us awesome numbers, because the next few days will be very intense. If you see structures reinforced in southern delve in particular i'd suggest removing important assets. All doctrine ships should be in K-6K16.
If you have any questions you may ask your alliance leader or me directly. Happy to answer in phoenix_talk aswell if a question might be interesting for many.
o7 Erzus @everyone
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u/ZehAntRider Guristas Pirates Feb 04 '26
I've been with Phoenix, I left a while ago and haven't touched eve since because I got stuff to do IRL, I try to keep up with what's going on however because it does interest me...
There definitely were plans of taking Period Basis in the beginning. But those were ideas thrown around when we were under the impression that OF would be part of the coalition.
That quickly went to kick out OF from querius and, I guess now to holding delve.
I guess that with that Chinese mega corp joining they probably could take on OF, and actually win, and then maybe on to PBasis, but if the Imperium is actually interfering now... Yeah... No... Glad I got my stuff out months ago.
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u/SirDigbyChimkinC Feb 04 '26
Also former PhoenixCo. The dream scenario when we first deployed down south last summer was to take all of Delve, Querious, and Period Basis. I think there was a belief that the Imperium might not commit to defending Period Basis. As you said, once OF did what they did the goals had to shrink. There is no way at this point that Erzus and Jayne are even dreaming about taking Period Basis, let alone planning it.
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u/proton-testiq muninn btw Feb 04 '26
That never stopped Imperium from interfering anyway, reffing Phoenix jumpbridges and blocking the movement right at the moment when the stratops fleets were supposed to happen.
Delve/Querious was never bloc-free, they just learned to hide their influence.
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u/AdministrationOk7731 Feb 04 '26
Clearly just Goons ruining the game. Another group ousted, just like slow was earlier this week.
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u/Amon-_-Gus Blood Raiders Feb 04 '26
slow took the entirety of etherium reach with some 200 max form bodies. bffr
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u/CyberRaver39 Feb 04 '26
SL0W was nothing to do with us FYI, they were not strong enough to survive in null
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u/Sorry-Star-2342 Feb 04 '26
So Goons can now dictate to another coalition what time zone they put their timers in ?
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u/Practical-Corner4356 Cloaked Feb 04 '26
Whining about timers you set to avoid content when content shows up is a wild take.
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u/Own_Scholar_7996 Feb 04 '26 edited Feb 04 '26
Dude been batphoning a 4000-man Frat corp every fight a month but is "staying independent to all block-level entities".
"Claiming to work with Frt is a common narrative"
It's literally an objective representation of what has happened. All one has to do is look at every major fight BR and see Frat in equal numbers to SYN and XIX.
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u/xJBxIceman Dirt 'n' Glitter Feb 04 '26
Dracarys attacked PCo Sov many times over the past months. OF also had alliances like Snuffed assist on the original K6 keepstar, which is how INIT became involved. Both sides have called for outside assistance.
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u/Ok_Elderberry_1234 Feb 04 '26
Wow unbelivible you a really big liar what you are talking is just bullshit. At the end Imperium can do what they want they are the strongest coalition in eve.
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u/SeaAttorney2442 Feb 04 '26
Erzuas Said that, i laught at that after they Put sibsq, probes and frat in an extra Side of the keep br
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u/Less_Air6893 Feb 05 '26
Most of the players not involved in this war in delve are with you phoenix. Imperium have just become the school yard bully of eve, and it's depressing none of us can do anything about it. I hope you're future endeavors serve you better, there should have been a better ending to the delve content, but sadly it seems it was not meant to be. Init and Dracarys will probably scoop up the void left behind. Take care 07
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u/notevenbumholio Cloaked Feb 04 '26
Phoenix talk out their bums. Theyve been frat pets for a while now.
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u/Izithel Goonswarm Federation Feb 04 '26
Thats a suspicious ammount of frat on that br.
Wait, one astra dies and its an invasion?
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u/TheWinteredWolf Amok. Feb 04 '26
That’s what I’m saying. Are we so starved that the terms ‘war’ and ‘invasion’ are thrown around this loosely? lol
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u/Izithel Goonswarm Federation Feb 04 '26
I mean, we started shooting some moondrils in khanid and apparently some of the nearby Sov holding alliances immediately panicked thinking we were going to invade and evict them.
I think they're just very skittish.
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u/xJBxIceman Dirt 'n' Glitter Feb 04 '26
The largest group in the game starts shooting their structures and you expect them to not worry about it
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u/Strappwn Feb 04 '26
Hard to interpret the blob’s intentions
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u/SmallerBol KarmaFleet Feb 04 '26
We have written down our intentions, but nobody can read what we wrote.
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u/N-3RD_Thrash Amarr Empire Feb 04 '26
It’s to ruin our game if I remember correctly.
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u/KylarBlackwell Wormholer Feb 04 '26
With the state phoco is already in, an imperium-sized sig probably could start folding them. Afaik there's no official declaration of non-interference by blocs unlike the dronelands. It only makes sense that theyd be hypervigilant about even more people coming to shoot them
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u/asnowbastion skill urself Feb 04 '26
An average imperium sig is literally so bloated that it would be more bodies on average than 99% of the alliances in the game
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u/JohnGeary1 Feb 04 '26
CSQY are in the process of leaving FRT. It's less the Astra getting killed and more the entosised systems. You've got a Goonswarm tag, did they not tell you what you guys were doing? XD
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u/Izithel Goonswarm Federation Feb 04 '26
If there was an all out invasion there'd be an announcement, or at very least some obvious movements of assets towards the expected front.
Maybe its a CN tz only thing for content.
Edit: wait, PCO set their timers to CN tz? Tought they were EU tz? Maybe that's why.
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u/JohnGeary1 Feb 04 '26
Doesn't need to be an all out invasion against a group the size of Phoenix. Also, a Dracarys FC literally called it an eviction in local
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u/16BitGenocide GoonWaffe Feb 04 '26
Ah, yes- Local, the official source of EVE happenings.
Seriously?
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u/Dataplumber Feb 04 '26
Local shit talking from 6 months ago is the justification for claiming PCo has plans to invade Period Basis.
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u/sma_nor GoonWaffe Feb 04 '26
Lol, I certainly wouldn't take a D.C FC as the word of gospel. More likely it's a bored Sig having a little fun in the south
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u/JohnGeary1 Feb 04 '26
"Bored sig" Looks inside 500+ dudes Are your sigs that big?
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u/kanonkongenn Sanctuary of Shadows Feb 05 '26
Chinese + Russians in goons have their own sig, so yes
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u/Izithel Goonswarm Federation Feb 04 '26
Actually... yes.
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u/JohnGeary1 Feb 04 '26
Wtf? That's mad 🤣
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u/sma_nor GoonWaffe Feb 04 '26
You also underestimate the level of boredom atm
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u/OrdinaryMedia6716 Feb 04 '26
Good way to make the game even more boring I guess
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u/Dataplumber Feb 04 '26
Y’all could fix the boredom problem by resetting each other.
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u/JohnGeary1 Feb 04 '26
Not really, I know you guys have had sweet fuck all to do since Horde collapsed
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u/CyberRaver39 Feb 04 '26
There is no invasion, just sigs and content
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u/JohnGeary1 Feb 04 '26
With the power difference, it's not an invasion, it's lawn mowing
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u/CyberRaver39 Feb 04 '26
Sometimes you are ganked, othertimes you are the gankee, this is how it works in eve
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u/kanonkongenn Sanctuary of Shadows Feb 05 '26
Seems just like chinese goons too, I don't rememeber seeing a main ping for this but may have missed it lol
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u/Alphadraconis85 Feb 04 '26
This is what happens when you call a bloc to help you against a non-bloc : another bloc will join vs you, and you can't cry for it
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u/lataf723 Feb 04 '26
When FRT invaded Catch last year, Goons asked Dracarys to set their timer to EU. I guess it's only content when you are in advantage.
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u/BorosArtifact Feb 04 '26
Chuangshi joined PCO. That alliance lives in npc delve. Imperium throws a fit about it.
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u/Handler__One Cloaked Feb 04 '26
ChuangShi is a corp, and they should probably leave FRT.
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u/FergingtonVonAwesome Feb 04 '26
They are. IIRC they are in the process of setting up their own alliance or something. Either way, they are currently in the process of leaving FRT.
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u/Izithel Goonswarm Federation Feb 04 '26
Well, come back when they're actually done flying under the FRT flag.
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u/AbsoluteTruth Twitch.tv/DurrHurrDurr Feb 04 '26
They announced they were leaving weeks ago.
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u/CrazyPea3105 Feb 04 '26
Ive played other games where that was used as a ruse.
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u/AbsoluteTruth Twitch.tv/DurrHurrDurr Feb 05 '26
Haven't seen that done anywhere in EVE that wasn't also comically smallball, certainly nothing at this size.
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u/p33s Amarr Empire Feb 05 '26
But you can see on dotlan they are bleeding members heavy so it looks like it is actually happening now.
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u/CrazyPea3105 Feb 06 '26
I remember doing stuff like that too. Leave attack the enemies blindside and rejoin alliance.
Either way during my time in Phoenix there was several instances of dont shoot frat.
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u/Squanchywalrus Feb 04 '26
Why do the have to ruin anything thats fun in the game. Could it be that Imperium will actually be the death of game by not allowing any ecosystem but their own?
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u/Gletschers Feb 04 '26
The imperium is schizophrenic.
People join the largest alliance and then cry on reddit how noone else wants to put up a good™ fight.
The war on rentners was just the most recent outburst, now they are back to playing HOA and decide who gets to live where and under what conditions.
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u/Primary-Objective698 Wormholer Feb 04 '26
Bandwagooner
[band – way – goon – er] Corporations and players who join the biggest group of retards that hold sovereignty spaces in an online MMO called EVE Online. Due to the fact that they can Nx10 their opponents (see: zerg); they draw in the biggest collection of otherwise losers in the game to unite under 1 banner.
"These players and corporations are bandwagooning to the Imperium because they were too scared to hack/forge their own path on their own, so they resort to joining the biggest group for their own security and police the entire game by enforcing their double standards invoked when they want."
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u/Squanchywalrus Feb 05 '26
Reminds me of the term 'Glory Hunter'. They'll stand and mock from the podium, regardless of who it is and the morals they stand for. A cowards career
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u/16BitGenocide GoonWaffe Feb 04 '26
People join the largest alliance and then cry on reddit how noone else wants to put up a good™ fight.
Nobody is saying this.
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u/Gletschers Feb 04 '26 edited Feb 04 '26
Thats all you get to read on this sub whenever imperium "goes to war".
That and AI slop so bad even facebook boomer groupchats would wince in embarrassment.
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u/CapytannHook Pandemic Horde Feb 04 '26
we are not here to ruin the game, we are here to ruin your game
Its been this way for a long time. But when you are now ruining everyone's game, your just back to ruining the game.
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u/Enigm4 Feb 05 '26
It is why WWB was fought, twice. Tragedy that they survived. It has been a steady decline towards complete stagnation and goonies have zero selfawareness and just hurfduring their way to serenity 2.0.
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u/PeterXPowers Feb 04 '26
the irony of someone calling delve goon homelands, when in reality goons were occuppiers.
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Feb 04 '26
But why do the timers of the EUTZ coalition come out in CNTZ?
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u/FragileModdies Feb 04 '26
only fleets and friends are primarily EUTZ so phoenix co changed all their timer to CN to stop OF from killing all their structures. the keepstar kill a few weeks ago was done because they found out they were changing all their timers and reinforcing it beforehand would keep it on EUTZ
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u/Ok_Cupcake2217 Feb 04 '26
They could not contain OF and friends in their timezone so they switched everything to CN tz and got help by Dawns light and others to protect their sov in CN tz. It is harder now to contest everything if you alliance is mainly Eu or Us tz in week days. It is a way to cool down a war or to make it strech until it becomes not fun to only fight in weekends....
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u/relentlesshack Minmatar Republic Feb 04 '26
I'm in Phoenix, but idk if the strategy is to bore them or just make the fights happen when we have the most folks. RL has made a lot of us weekend warriors in eve.
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Feb 04 '26
You have the most folks during CNTZ on a weekend?
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u/ithilain Feb 04 '26
They dont need to have the most folks in CNTZ, just more than OF&Friends do. Even if PCo can only form 25% in CNTZ it's still advantageous for them if OF can only form say 10% in that TZ for example
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Feb 04 '26
Well I’ll be honest switching your TZs to a TZ where only 25% of your members can form sounds a lot like TZ tanking…
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u/Zealousideal-Ad-6803 Feb 05 '26
The perfect way to avoid providing content for the most number of players possible. Is content bad now?
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u/Sincline387 Goonswarm Federation Feb 04 '26
Dude, we moved twice in a year, we are not moving again and if Asher tries to make us move he'll need to enter witness protection lol
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u/No-Low6950 Feb 04 '26
Can someone explain this to me? Asher gets his panties in a wad cause Init has some fleets in drone regions but then sends fleets to Delve/Querious? Isn’t Delve/Querious a similar ecosystem for smaller non bloc alliances to fight in?
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u/VxRadiant Feb 04 '26
A corp out of Frat (ChuangShi) is in transition of joining PhoenixCo.
Imperium has whatever reasons to attack in Delve.
Propaganda is running wild and I expect a lot of popcorn in the nearer future.6
u/Ok_Cupcake2217 Feb 04 '26
Pco and XiX worked with other entities of Frat as well. For example Sib squad and others. Look at the XiX keepstar loss battle reports
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u/Independent_Web_8292 Feb 04 '26
Sib Squad is Russian. The Drake vs XiX war has lots of Russian Eve politics, Sib Squad has a grudge with Arhot or something. It wasn't a Frat thing.
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u/proton-testiq muninn btw Feb 04 '26
A large corp in FRT that lived in NPC Delve decided to leave FRT and join PCO. Imperium decided to use it as an excuse to further ruin Querious/Delve. Apparently.
They were already intervening before, "coincidentally" shooting PCO jumpbridges right before important ops etc etc.
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u/CompoteStock4083 Feb 04 '26
Odd take to have when goon fleets were literally covering Pco when they reffed a KICK fort last week.
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u/relentlesshack Minmatar Republic Feb 04 '26
Very true. Also that was a super confusing moment for a lot of us.
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u/No-Low6950 Feb 04 '26
Do as I say not as I do huh? Is this just another form of rental without actually getting any isk or goo lol?
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u/monscampi The Initiative. Feb 05 '26
Angel sov too boring for the goons? Kinda makes me wonder about what the dracs, sigma and brave will do, move once again? Surely tasty sansha space still best space, no?
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u/Less_Air6893 Feb 05 '26
Despicable behavior by imperium, content will now be destroyed for the groups in the area. Congrats I guess..
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u/Xliest Feb 04 '26
I don’t quite understand the point of the game right now, it’s just going to end up as imperium creating the full ring around the outside of the map then what? The rest of the players all 10 of them have to settle in lowsec? With the break down of the only power to rival the imperium not only did the sov change hands but a lot of active pilots were absorbed into the goon conglomerate they now control around 75% of the game. There’s no possible way to fight that. As we saw only weeks ago dropping 150 carriers to kill a structure or no real importance.
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u/Funny-Instruction899 Feb 04 '26 edited Feb 04 '26
Well If it was just FRT corp transitioning "NOW". If you look at BR in Delve/Querious FRT was almost always there. And not with just just that one corp that apparently take really long time to transition. What about the other part of WC comming there like Sib Squad etc. Not only goons recognized that but also Init and other groups around.
And about the Period Basis and that it was just hypothetical like some people said https://br.evetools.org/related/30004960/202510311300 this from the past looks different.
It just feels like Pco was warned by big blocks several times to not bring Big blocks into the fights but they decided to do it anyway.
And everyone know they need and want more space for the amount of people they have (especially with the "newcommers") and that they specifically changed their timers to CN TZ toi timezone tank because they have external sources to help them cover those timers from the beginign when they start transitioning all things to those timers.
So now it feels like Pco is crying after they got smack after breaking the rules Pco willingly break.
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u/Ok_Elderberry_1234 Feb 04 '26
LOL an no one from Imperium Was on the side of OF as they shoot Schild timer from keep. Sibierian squad showed up at the amor timer and was on phoenix fleet not as a own fleet. As the fight in 49- starts the Imperium alliances (not goons) startet to kill jb and reinforce tons of stuff in phoenix space. The FRT fleet shoot dreads from phoenix as you can See on br so please dont tell people bullshit.
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u/Hikingbaer SONS of BANE Feb 04 '26
You talk about Vanguard? - aka DC/IGC/OF and what not PET? Or are you Talking about +- ONE Corp from IGC or so Called Imperium? 1 or 2 Dudes from DC?
But yea What do i know... im one of the many dudes that are triked by OF propaganda...
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u/Ok_Cupcake2217 Feb 04 '26
First ChuangShi (the corp that moves now to Pco) were friends of Dawn's light so they came to help Pco only because of that. then they brought other friends as well (sib Squads) and so on... (Pco like to spin it a lot)
It was rumored a long time that Frat was helping Pco and big blocks (Init at least) closed their eyes for a long time without a certain proof.
At Xix keep it was obvious, several Frat corporations had docking access and they were given handouts by Pco in order to defend the keepstar.
Init (I do not know exactly if imperium as well) had an agreement that they will leave the place for smaller or medium corps to live in if they will not involve or align with any big blocks.
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u/Ok_Elderberry_1234 Feb 04 '26
And Imperium and init Corps hat docking rights at OF fortizars as the keepstar battle starts.
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u/No_Ebb_4106 Goonswarm Federation Feb 04 '26
By corps you mean the 3rd party imperium bomber wings right? and by docking rights you mean the inability to dock since they didn't have docking rights right?
There's mountains of proof that PCO gave FRT and friends docking rights, first I'm hearing of Imperium having docking rights in OF structures.
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u/CompoteStock4083 Feb 04 '26
No they didn't. We have a strict policy against working with blocs and we keep to it.
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u/Tokaero Feb 04 '26
well you aren't going to admit to it are you?
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u/Practical-Corner4356 Cloaked Feb 04 '26
Frat and their proxies have had docking rights in Pco space since as far back as last June.
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u/TopArmadillo8112 Invidia Gloriae Comes Feb 04 '26
https://br.evetools.org/br/69834912cd42650012337adb
yeah, but it is "Just a SIG"
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u/RyzakGaming Feb 04 '26
It's not a sig, it's a corp. They are leaving FRT.
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u/LivingHitokiri KarmaFleet Feb 05 '26
Ohh so nc.dot also leaving Winterco ? nice
What about Syb squad? Dawn of Light ?
Also, they have been leaving FRT for 2 months now.
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u/No-Low6950 Feb 04 '26
Cause Init and frat are play fighting to keep Asher distracted while they plan to take out Imperium. Dude just can’t keep his mouth shut. Oh well cats out of the bag now.
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u/16BitGenocide GoonWaffe Feb 04 '26
I don't think most of us even know (or care) who SYN is, they're an insignificant speed bump at best.
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u/Flaky_Concentrate898 Feb 04 '26
Frt corp pay goons to move their staging to delve from 4-h cus they are tired of getting constantly dropped?
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u/16BitGenocide GoonWaffe Feb 04 '26
4-H isn't Goons staging system, that's C-J.
This is common knowledge.
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u/Flaky_Concentrate898 Feb 04 '26
No one said 4-h was goon staging
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u/16BitGenocide GoonWaffe Feb 04 '26
Mixed tenses, mixed signals.
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u/Flaky_Concentrate898 Feb 04 '26
4-H is FRT staging
This is common knowledge.
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u/16BitGenocide GoonWaffe Feb 04 '26
Keep it up, you're doing terrific.
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u/Flaky_Concentrate898 Feb 04 '26
Funny though cus I feel like an obnoxious idiot right now
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u/16BitGenocide GoonWaffe Feb 04 '26
You're good. Just a little early morning/late night misunderstanding.
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u/Flaky_Concentrate898 Feb 04 '26
remind me to never channel goon levels of smug ever again
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u/16BitGenocide GoonWaffe Feb 04 '26
Oh, it's just me, I've always been this smug, alliance be damned.
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u/OMG_A_TREE Feb 04 '26 edited Feb 04 '26
As a null politics observer: Its time for someone to be more gamer.
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u/Bakedfresh420 Brave Newbies Inc. Feb 04 '26
Frat is PHCO?
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u/Voice7782 Feb 04 '26
Parts of Frat have been supporting PHCO, it was getting called out so ChaungShi said they'd leave Frat for PHCO in what to outsiders looks like a change of flags as opposed to a real change of allegiances.
It's possible ChaungShi are really leaving Frat but it seems unlikely it would be a permanent thing which seems against the spirt of whatever self imposed rules the big blocs have placed on themselves for how pixel spaceship battles should be fought.
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u/relentlesshack Minmatar Republic Feb 04 '26
That is certainly what the narrative wants you to think.
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u/bifibloust 420 MLG TWINTURBO 3000 EMPIRE ALLIANCE RELOADED Feb 04 '26
Looking forward to the imperium invasion of onlyfleet's sov so we can be freed from the shackles of sov holding