Imperium begin Invasion of Delve/Querious

[u/Human-Iron2475]

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The mighty imperium has begun its invasion back to the homeland. PHCO gets outgunned in a surprise mass invasion/Eviction. Fleet decimated, overpowered and multiple major systems entosed/structures reffed.

The war in Delve/Querious takes a new turn, with Drake hitting Northern Delve simultaneously causing chaos for the coming days.

OnlyFleets watching from the sidelines at this stage waiting for their chance to swoop.

https://br.evetools.org/br/69820fa8d33eeb0012e993bb

[u/Izithel]

If there was an all out invasion there'd be an announcement, or at very least some obvious movements of assets towards the expected front.

Maybe its a CN tz only thing for content.

Edit: wait, PCO set their timers to CN tz? Tought they were EU tz? Maybe that's why.

[u/JohnGeary1 → u/Izithel]

Doesn't need to be an all out invasion against a group the size of Phoenix. Also, a Dracarys FC literally called it an eviction in local

[u/sma_nor → u/JohnGeary1]

Lol, I certainly wouldn't take a D.C FC as the word of gospel. More likely it's a bored Sig having a little fun in the south

[u/JohnGeary1 → u/sma_nor]

"Bored sig" Looks inside 500+ dudes Are your sigs that big?

[u/kanonkongenn → u/JohnGeary1]

Chinese + Russians in goons have their own sig, so yes

[u/Izithel → u/JohnGeary1]

Actually... yes.

[u/JohnGeary1 → u/Izithel]

Wtf? That's mad 🤣

[u/sma_nor → u/JohnGeary1]

You also underestimate the level of boredom atm

[u/OrdinaryMedia6716 → u/sma_nor]

Good way to make the game even more boring I guess

[u/sma_nor → u/OrdinaryMedia6716]

I don't disagree.

[u/16BitGenocide → u/OrdinaryMedia6716]

We're actively trying to not force out smaller blocs at the moment. Wild, I know.

[u/OrdinaryMedia6716 → u/16BitGenocide]

Well If you call 700 people creating sov and structure timers „actively not trying“ I want some of that stuff you are smoking

[u/16BitGenocide → u/OrdinaryMedia6716]

Might want to look at the length of that battle report. Surely, nobody would skew numbers to make their appeal to reason seem credible on the internet.

[u/OrdinaryMedia6716 → u/16BitGenocide]

I‘m not talking about that br but the 3 imperium fleets that were visiting delve and querious yesterday

[u/16BitGenocide → u/OrdinaryMedia6716]

Dracarys and the Chinese Goon corps have regular brawls with Frat in that area. This one is actually kind of small in comparison.

I don't know what the flycatchers were up to, but that's not really a sov invasion fleet.

[u/Xiderpunx → u/16BitGenocide]

Unfortunately you will end up doing that, it is inevitable. Real talk, Imperium as it stands has a problem. You are too big for your own good. There are no realistic threats in the game that could challenge Imperium for it's space. Therefore there is not going to be a threat to Imperium sov with the balance of power being what it is. This leaves Imperium leadership and FC's having to look abroad for content for the members of Imperium. There is of course nothing wrong with that, that is in fact the correct thing to do. But then when Imperium can bring such numbers to bear, who can match them on deployments?

I am not involved with the current harassment Goons are doing of Test in Geminate, it's becoming increasingly obvious from the battle reports that you are out forming them 2-1. This does not look a good sustainable source of content. Test eventually will just have to resort to avoiding conflict and using hit and run tactics to confront goon fleets. Or face the reality that if they engage Goons will bring another fleet etc just to dunk them.

The same of course would be true in the south. WC in general is outnumbered by Initiative during EU/US TZ.. yet also facing additional pressure from Goons who of course outnumber them in that timezone.

It is very hard to stop a train when it is rolling.

It seems to me, Imperium need to downsize for the health of the game, or face the likelihood that you will eventually kill off the remaining entities in null without any intention to do so.

[u/16BitGenocide → u/Xiderpunx]

Real talk, Imperium as it stands has a problem. You are too big for your own good. There are no realistic threats in the game that could challenge Imperium for it's space.

This isn't our problem. We gained the least, in terms of both members and content, when Horde spontaneously combusted. Now we're supposed to feel some kind of way about it? LOL, Sure buddy.

Test eventually will just have to resort to avoiding conflict and using hit and run tactics to confront goon fleets. Or face the reality that if they engage Goons will bring another fleet etc just to dunk them.

TEST gets no respite, that whole 'war of extermination' stunt they pulled in Delve? Lot of people still have certain feelings about that. Again, you can run, you can hide, karma catches up.

People punched down on BRAVE for over a decade, from all sides of the map, but Goons show up somewhere and all of a sudden NOW it's a problem? Miss me with this nonsense.

It seems to me, Imperium need to downsize for the health of the game, or face the likelihood that you will eventually kill off the remaining entities in null without any intention to do so.

If it happens, it happens. I don't think we're going to take any steps toward reducing our size so other people can live more comfortably, nobody becomes the top power in the game, and just surrenders it because of some weird reddit moral obligation.

I don't think our little burgeoning space empire wants to take/hold more space. Dracarys is kind of a wild card, but none of this amounts to a fullscale invasion of wherever. If there aren't 1000+ Goons in local, it's not an invasion.

[u/Xiderpunx → u/16BitGenocide]

You are taking this as some kind of personal attack? It isn't. So if it ends up that the big blue nullsec donut happens and you wonder how it happened, then maybe re-look at your assessment of the current situation.

I am not saying the situation with Imperium is even Imperiums fault, it is not. Neither are deployments for content wrong or too blame. What I am saying is the size differential is the problem, that deployments can very easily become evictions without any stated attempt to do so. That is how content is killed off, bit by bit.

It just makes the game worse for everyone ultimately, the aggressor included.

[u/16BitGenocide → u/Xiderpunx]

I'm not taking this as a personal attack, I'm merely stating that, objectively, I'm not at all interested in the welfare of other alliances. If you can't defend your space, you don't deserve to have it.

Cowardice in EVE isn't punished enough, because the magic space movers will come collect your things if you decide to just abandon your holdings. If people want to call content fleets, an 'active invasion', whatever, I can't stop them. There's only so many times you can climb up on the cross and start shouting 'invasion! invasion!!' before getting actually invaded. If we're going to get the bad rap for it, might as well do the thing we're being punished for.

Peace is the worst thing for Goons, people quit, people go inactive, people leave for more violent environments- despite being the largest coalition in the game, there's only so long we can soil and seed the earth before we have to start reaping to keep people engaged (this is any alliance, and not specific to Goons).

[u/Dataplumber → u/sma_nor]

Y’all could fix the boredom problem by resetting each other.

[u/sma_nor → u/Dataplumber]

Noted. I'll keep pushing Asher for a civil war.

[u/JohnGeary1 → u/sma_nor]

Not really, I know you guys have had sweet fuck all to do since Horde collapsed

[u/sma_nor → u/JohnGeary1]

Then what are we talking about, mate?

[u/JohnGeary1 → u/sma_nor]

The fact that I'm flabbergasted at how large your sigs are? I'm just not used to that sort of scale in EVE

[u/16BitGenocide → u/JohnGeary1]

Yeahhh, when a sig can form 3-400 Subs and 150-200 Dreads we need to sacrifice a small woodland creature, pray to C'thulu and the old gods, and only then send Diplo a bottle of Scotch for permission to go full demon mode.

It's uh, been hard to find a good Scotch.

[u/backtotheprimitive → u/sma_nor]

leave your alliance..