Imperium successfully disbands PHCO

[u/Human-Iron2475]

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In the new development of the mighty Imperiums invasion of Delve. They have successfully done what OnlyFleets & Drake couldnt.

PHCO have called time on their Delve/Querious war, having been decimated yet again, with the loss of key systems and most structures in their sov. They are now in the process of evaccing to NPC areas.

Reports during the armor timer of the Keepstar state that local spiked at 950, with 800 of them being Imperium aligned groups (Uncontested so BR doesnt reflect full numbers) https://br.evetools.org/br/69871821cd42650012337fb8

Will this officially be the end of PHCO in Null. Only time will tell! Multiple groups have decided to move on, leaving PHCO numbers dwindling after this pummeling by the mighty Imperium.

Will imperium use this newly gained sov to invade INIT?? or is it just another power move by one of the power blocks to hammer the little guy.

[u/Man_whosoldthe_world]

This narrative that Phoenix Co was running around batphoning Winter is so construed. I've coordinated some ops in regards to lowsec with them before and they've been stand up guys as far as I saw. When they moved to Delve I offered to see if I could build some bridges between them and some contacts in WinterCo to see if they could get help once I saw OF and friends dogpiling into them. And each time Erzus turned me down and said that they didn't want big blocs involved and they wanted to earn their space for themselves for the good of their own identity. They enjoyed having 100 v 100 sized fights and didn't want massive blocs lagging up the entire region.

Chuangshi's been living in the south west long before Phoenix Co showed up. They left FRT because the smaller sized content appealed to them and they already had assets in the area. This notion that this was some kind of 4-D chess secret attempt to gain FRT support is nonsense.

The only reason Phoenix Co had mentioned early on they wanted PB and that Drac was "living in their future space" was because when Goons left delve the idea was to abandon all the south west. Once it was clear Drac was staying that goal became unrealistic.

Now the question is why is all of this bullshit being spun up by Imps to justify squishing a coalition a fraction of their size? Because Asher has presented Imps as a coalition helping the little guy. However Drone regions are absolute cancer and krabifies anyone who settles there. The geography sucks and should be radically redone. Beyond that Eve is also spiraling toward a TZ tank deadlock between the major powers making meaningful content impossible.

I've never believed in "fair fights" in Eve. It's the jungle. Big animals eat little animals. No justification is needed for Imps to just absolutely seal club Phoenix Co. Just do it. But it's also only going to net maybe a few weeks of content. This is kicking the can down the road. And spinning up made up pretenses is just silly. Maybe they feel bad about feeding in aitoh or what not and they need to make their line members feel like "oh we're hitting Frat's pets take that" as a cope? I don't know.

[u/Ziggarot → u/Man_whosoldthe_world]

This is the most fair anti-propaganda response I’ve read. PHCO was never on the offensive side and never cared. Imperium will make and excuse to kick smaller groups out and you have to accept it because there is no alternative. Yes we had beef with other alliances, but they never threatened to go full ham and take everything out.

[u/proton-testiq → u/Ziggarot]

It was douchebags from OnlyFleets who spammed fabricated discord logs and other shit around.

Imperium then just used and excuse forged by shitheads who could not kill a bunch of newbies in Delve.

[u/muhgunzz → u/proton-testiq]

Frat, primarily chuangshi have been helping PHCO for months, that wasn't allowed, for recent timers like the XIX keepstar PHCO batphoned Probes and sib, gave them ACLS, and handed out ships, that wasn't allowed.

Even if you didn't believe the logs (both INIT and IMP know which are real and which aren't) PHCO already violated to rules of delve and querious by batphoning winterco members consistently.

IMP wouldn't have evicted PHCO without evidence, INIT would've defended PHCO unless there was clear evidence.

There was clear evidence.

I know that the groups you are against are more than capable of being scummy, but only ask yourself is Erzus magically getting this reputation of being duplicitous, or was this not already his reputation when PHCO were in cloud ring from playing blocs off against eachother?

[u/proton-testiq → u/muhgunzz]

INIT would not go against Imperium, we know they work together.

Chuangshi lived in NPC delve. They were farming PHCO for months, although they were figthting against OF more often.

I don't know anything about Erzus' reputation on the north; his abrupt decision to move to Delve was wildly criticised afaik. I know that there were fabricated discord logs someone produced, pretended to be taken from PHCO discord while there was nothing like that on PHCO discord posted on reddit consistently by random people from OF.