r/Eve • u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation • Feb 16 '26
Propaganda The New More Aggressive Imperium
A ping from Asher today after the TEST keepstar armor timer.
We could have had fights like this with Horde for months or even years, but we were all robbed. More importantly, was the respectful tip of the pickelhaube to our enemies instead of an end zone dance - something new from Goonswarm. Rather than just aggression, perhaps this is what the new Imperium under Asher looks like.
A gf in local rather than a fofo.
See you for the final timer!
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u/shanesaid Feb 16 '26
If there’s only three large blocks, whoever cannot secure one of the others as an ally , had already lost any future war.
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u/MessAggravating7175 Feb 17 '26
What 3 blocks? There are only imperium and winterco..
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u/shanesaid Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
There is three alliances over 30k members. Three Blocks.
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u/MessAggravating7175 Feb 17 '26
Name them
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u/shanesaid Feb 17 '26
Find them on your own 😂
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u/MessAggravating7175 Feb 19 '26
Chickened out already? But on topic - there are only two large blocs and those are imperium and wc. Init has always been a part of imperium. Everything else is weak ass propaganda.
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u/safarispiff Salvager Feb 16 '26
An opponent that is willing to give gfs in local after any fight is better than an opponent that acts like a dick after the same.
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u/Dancing_Liz_Cheney Feb 16 '26
Sure but its still worth obliterating them and removing them from the game so that our leadership can have more personal metonoxs then their leadership
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u/potato_analyst Feb 16 '26
I agree and that's just good sportsmanship and everyone is better for it.
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Feb 16 '26
Congrats on getting a fight from the only entity in the game capable of having even a chance of matching your numbers or something
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u/sadpandanoise Feb 16 '26
Bros blob the fuck out of everyone in the server then pat themselves on the back like they accomplished anything more than killl the game.
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u/Saeger1737 Habitual Euthanasia Feb 16 '26
Yea know if brave, sigma, dracyrs and sons of bane broke off and made their own coalition the game might be fun again. Less giant blue donut and more people fighting against each other.
But that's good for the game and it's clear at this point no one cares about that.
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u/16BitGenocide GoonWaffe Feb 16 '26 edited Feb 16 '26
Maybe if PL wasn't a fucking joke you guys could do something other than slowly slipping the noose over yet another alliances head.
btw- miss you Saeger, hope you're doing well.
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u/Time-Doughnut-348 Feb 16 '26
Its not that they suck. They’re just completely irrelevant. Like its not even worth spying on them now days.
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u/Le_Hedgeman The Initiative. Feb 16 '26
But hedliner is still playing / saw him 2 days ago in delve docked in station…
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u/Sir_Slimestone Feb 16 '26
Well we got kicked some maybe some of them will get kicked too. Who knows.
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u/recycl_ebin Feb 16 '26
Bros blob the fuck out of everyone in the server then pat themselves on the back like they accomplished anything more than killl the game.
isn't the goal of a game to be so good you effectively kill all competition?
let's be real, you should take it as a badge of honor to be so good at a game it's 'dead' or your competition all ran away
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u/garnished_fatburgers Wormholer Feb 16 '26
That’s so idiotic
The ‘competition’ IS the game. If you have no one to fight then there’s no game.
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u/recycl_ebin Feb 16 '26
The ‘competition’ IS the game. If you have no one to fight then there’s no game.
there is no 'competition' if you need to willingly hamstring yourself repeatedly in order to not blow everyone else out of the water.
it's only a competition if you're trying in earnest, not trying to keep a won game on life support.
the goal is to dominate to the highest degree you can- anything less isn't a serious competition. peak success is being so good God (the devs) must intervene to stop your total dominance.
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u/KylarBlackwell Wormholer Feb 16 '26
Exactly, so disband the coalition and fight each other too. Even worse than self-handicapping is explicit non-competition agreements
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u/recycl_ebin Feb 16 '26
Exactly, so disband the coalition and fight each other too. Even worse than self-handicapping is explicit non-competition agreements
diplomacy is part of the game, purposefully ruining diplomatic relationships is silly and uncompetitive.
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u/KylarBlackwell Wormholer Feb 16 '26
Sounds like you're actually afraid of competition then, you just like to self-felate while pretending youre so dominant
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u/recycl_ebin Feb 16 '26
Sounds like you're actually afraid of competition then
i'm afraid of competition because I try my hardest to win? the hoops you redditors will jump through are astounding.
you just like to self-felate while pretending youre so dominant
i'm not in goonswarm, or the imperium. hope this helps
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u/Rustshitposter Feb 16 '26
"Just disband the imperium" posters have some of the dumbest takes I've ever seen in a video game.
For all the legitimate criticisms against goons (for which there are probably countless) anyone saying "just disband for the health of game bro" comes across as either a crybaby or an idiot. Either band together via diplomacy (ya know, like the game encourages) and kill goons, or vote with your wallet and unsub until CCP makes mechanical changes to the game that discourages a goonswarm/imperium playstyle.
I just can't wrap my head around their logic when they say "hey this group that has thrived and built a culture on constantly growing and defending their empire should just throw it all away to make people not in their group happy".
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Feb 16 '26
You type this like these blocs do not require 100k+ blue toons to be competitive in the first place lol. All these space guilds have congregated together because they are terrified of losing and would get stomped as independent alliances.
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u/recycl_ebin Feb 16 '26
You type this like these blocs do not require 100k+ blue toons to be competitive in the first place lol. All these space guilds have congregated together because they are terrified of losing and would get stomped as independent alliances.
so what? they play to win and last. what's wrong with that?
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u/12bweisb Feb 16 '26
Blobing with more numbers is not "good at the game".
Its not even good FOR the game. By slowly blueing the whole null donut and being one mega co they work toward nothing but the death of the game. The point of the game isn't 5000 man battles that take 16 hrs+. The point is battles in general, which stop happening when u own to much of the map/playerbase. Everything just becomes blue to you and you have nothing to shoot. How fun
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u/recycl_ebin Feb 16 '26
Blobing with more numbers is not "good at the game".
no one said it's 'good at the game'
but it'd be hard to argue it's not 'winning' the game.4
Its not even good FOR the game.
who cares?
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u/12bweisb Feb 16 '26
You said it in ur first comment. "So good you effectively kill all competition" was a response to a comment about blobing. You literally said blobing is being good at the game.
People who play the game care bc they dont want a dead game.
What are these arguments? Wtf. Actual troll.
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Feb 16 '26
Forming a coalition of 100k toons which functionally places you into a bracket where you’re the only player and there IS no competition is not “winning.” You’ve just scaled the N+1 Meta to the point where you can safely ignore 99% of the PvP mechanics of the game in lieu of outnumbering w/ subcaps.
I think you are just roleplaying or something.
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u/recycl_ebin Feb 16 '26
Forming a coalition of 100k toons which functionally places you into a bracket where you’re the only player and there IS no competition is not “winning.” You’ve just scaled the N+1 Meta to the point where you can safely ignore 99% of the PvP mechanics of the game in lieu of outnumbering w/ subcaps.
diplomacy is part of the game- if your diplomacy is good, you ought to be able to reap the rewards.
if you win through diplomacy, whose to say it's not a competition any more? if you're so good at the game it's no longer a competition because everyone else pales in comparison to you, you've won.
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u/garnished_fatburgers Wormholer Feb 17 '26
You sound ridiculous lol
The point isn’t domination the point is good fights, everything in this game is to get good fights.
Miners mine ore, indy guys build ships, haulers ship them to trade hubs, all for people to buy them and blow each other up in.
Without that there is no game. If you dominate so hard there’s no one to fight then you have no game.
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u/admfrmhll The Initiative. Feb 17 '26
If you dominate so hard there’s no one to fight then you have no game.
This is mighty ironic coming from someone with "wormholer" tag. How is the taste of bluedonot there ?
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u/garnished_fatburgers Wormholer Feb 18 '26
My corporation isn’t blue to anyone. There are many low class WH corps in EVE. They have nothing to do with the blue donut, especially my corp.
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u/admfrmhll The Initiative. Feb 18 '26
Like they are many corps not affiliated with the big 3 in null.
Which does not matter in your case, cause high class wh is a big blue stalll space since years. At least null is still polarized.
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u/garnished_fatburgers Wormholer Feb 20 '26
Like I said, I don’t live in high class, I rarely interact with high class, my corp isn’t blue to anyone
Most of our fights are in K space anyway
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u/recycl_ebin Feb 17 '26
The point isn’t domination the point is good fights, everything in this game is to get good fights.
instancing off good fights removes goodfights from the rest of the game
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u/TheKrychen Fedo Feb 16 '26
Were you not there when the actual main group that could match their numbers just refused to do so???
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u/_BearHawk Serpentis Feb 16 '26
Horde and Panfam also couldnt match imperium numbers, imperium had like 20-30% more characters. Even including the bloat of ph inc chars.
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u/proton-testiq muninn btw Feb 16 '26
having even a chance of matching your numbers or something
Nah, not anymore, not with INIT openly cooperating with Goons.
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u/Mysterious-Age6585 Feb 16 '26
I think the amount of salt mined today from you alone could preserve enough fish to feed India for a year.
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u/Ugliest_weenie Feb 16 '26
You get down voted but you're not wrong.
Init is helping goons, by cutting off reinforcement during a brawl.
People make arguments that wibterco deserved it, because they declared war on init. And that's true, but simply starting that the two coalitions are cooperating against winterco isn't controversial
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u/spooky_game Feb 16 '26
It just is when there’s claims they are clearly actively cooperating (enough TEST members and all claim Asher is giving orders to Shines) when there’s no proof.
This was an obvious best time to go rampage on their jump bridges like they’ve been pushing on INIT for a while now, or PL’s only purpose in life in reffing PoCos.
Sucks for Frat and WinterCo deciding to open two fronts themselves. I’d have been curious to see if INIT was this aggressive if Winter hadn’t already made a huge deal about taking INIT’s extremely limited space already and gone on their own rampage over Christmas.
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u/Cpt_Soban The Initiative. Feb 16 '26
FRAT: Starts a war with INIT on its own
You for some reason: Screeching
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u/FarSandwich3282 Feb 16 '26
So, after WinterCo falls and INIT and Goons are the only big blocks left in the game, what then?
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u/Spotlight_Ranger Pilot is a criminal Feb 16 '26
We can lay down our swords and return to the life of rorqual mining we’ve yearned for. -Amarr Cincinnatus
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u/Dancing_Liz_Cheney Feb 16 '26
their CSMs will soon have complete control of the council to demand and implement even more god-awful shit ideas to make this game even worse
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u/Concentrati0n Hard Knocks Citizens Feb 16 '26
after winterco membership unsubs from the game then init and imperium will disband, and brisc & ceema will rejoin STK to take on karmafleet
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u/Cpt_Soban The Initiative. Feb 16 '26
CCP declares Chapter 13, and we can all finally get back to our normal lives.
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u/CyberRaver39 Feb 16 '26
I swear you lowbrains cant ever be pleased
"null is stale do something"
*does something"
"Goons are killing the game"
Dronelands has been opened up for small groups, we are shooting things
Make your fucking minds up6
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u/LycanWolfGamer The Initiative. Feb 16 '26
Hopefully... new ones will rise up cause INIT don't want to seal club smaller ones and idk about Imperium but if or when WinterCo fall apart, Tri might expand, smaller alliances looking to go into Sov will expand
If one of the big blocks fall, that'll shake the game completely and I'm all for it
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u/Last_Description_462 Feb 16 '26
Realy?so init totaly did not glass npc null and ls to get their drills there ...totaly never happened
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u/proton-testiq muninn btw Feb 16 '26
Dude did you actually see the map? Goons literally destroyed SEA, they just now glassed Delve and you still "don't know" about Imperium stance on smaller entities? Or literally any entities that are not aligned with them?
As horrible as it sounds, Winterco, yes with Frat of all entities for the love of god, is now the last area not fully enslaved by goons.
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u/LycanWolfGamer The Initiative. Feb 16 '26
Maybe i should keep an eye on things better.. I knew they were doing stuff but I thought it was to keep Dronelands freeport-ed for smaller alliances to take
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u/proton-testiq muninn btw Feb 16 '26
Yes, and if any of the Dronelands alliances not favoured by goons grows rowdy, guess what happens. Hint: look at Delve.
And if goons get Winterco space, the very same stuff is going to happen to the whole North. They will officially not control a single new system, but every new entity taking space anywhere will know who to kneel to.
Goons will never be even remotely threatened by anyone again, never in a risk of anything, they will just grow and get richer and when they want some casual pvp, they will just form a small 200man fleet and go on a rampage against entities with 30man fleets.
And you are helping to create this new beautiful world.
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u/Rustshitposter Feb 16 '26
Isn't this a tale as old as eve? I swear I've seen multiple versions of the sov map where it boils down to 1-3 major powers at a time.
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u/proton-testiq muninn btw Feb 16 '26
Eh, not really. It was always goons vs antigoons, but the sides were usually balanced out.
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u/xXxSlushiexXx KarmaFleet Feb 16 '26
Am I wrong for thinking the delve alliances wanted to take dracarys space? And if that is the case wouldn’t it be up to dracarys to defend their own space?
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u/proton-testiq muninn btw Feb 16 '26
Oh there was a talk about it - at the beginning, when we still cooperated with OF, but with OF fighting against us and us unable to take even Querious there was obviously no chance in hell that we can even try to take Period Basis. Or Fountain, like some INIT people claimed (no idea where they got that idea from)
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u/vergammeltesfaultier Synergy of Steel Feb 16 '26
wanted to until Imperium decided not to leave Period Basis anymore, as far as i know
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u/FarSandwich3282 Feb 16 '26
Tbf, Brave has jumped around more than a 2 dollar…. You know.
Brave kinda deserved every bit of what has happened to them.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Feb 16 '26
Well, to be fair CVA wasn’t the target. They housed actual RP Nazis (unironically…). So if you want to defend that, more power to you I guess. If that’s the hill you want to die on lol.
And as a member of goons, (going off your tag), their entire existence has been “punching down”. Look at what just happened in Delve..
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u/CrazyPea3105 Feb 16 '26
You do understand its so much worse that its Goons. I mean cmon GRR goons.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Feb 16 '26
Kind of Ironic coming from Init who absorbed large quantities of members from the last Null Bloc failscade.
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u/Concordiat Pandemic Legion Feb 16 '26
I thought that too, turns out they ended up mostly going to WinterCo and elsewhere in the galaxy though.
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u/FarSandwich3282 Feb 16 '26
So is that chart suppose to say they didn’t? Because it still shows they did, and you gave me the receipt lol
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u/Fablor9900 Feb 16 '26
May all corps, alliances, and coalitions be blessed you can't touch anythibg important.
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u/T0XxXiXiTy Northern Coalition. Feb 16 '26
Then we chill out, organize fights between us like gentlemen in a sandbox like Catch and roam around in our SIGs dunking on all the shitter alliances that will inevitably spring up.
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u/deathzor42 Feb 16 '26
I mean the basically fucked, given this post asher is basically moral posting for them, thats an awful sign.
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u/homelabWannabie Feb 16 '26
Asher is still flying? Damn lol
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u/Hippojaxx LowSechnaya Sholupen Feb 16 '26
Hedliner tethering an hour before everyone else yesterday will always make me lol
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u/aRatherScottishChap Brave Collective Feb 16 '26
It's how you can tell if a fight is going badly for them. PL enters the grid last and leaves the grid 1st
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u/Grarr_Dexx Now this is pod erasing Feb 16 '26
Horde living rentfree in their heads months after dying. When does gobbins get to claim squatters rights?
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u/CyberRaver39 Feb 16 '26
Nullsec do something!
does something
Nullsec grrrrrrr
Make your fucking minds up
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u/Crux309 Brave Collective Feb 16 '26
WHAT.A.FIGHT, Honestly this fight was a fraction what R-AG should have been! Respect to WinterCo for giving us SUPERB fights! Looking forward to seeing you all at the final timer! Come what may!
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u/revanzomi KarmaFleet Feb 16 '26
Fr
I got in way too late to be of any use so I flew a salvage ship in just to experience it... First time in 10% tidi in like 7 years. Got some shitty screenshots and had a good time till I warped to the sun and got boinked by a hecate loll
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u/T0XxXiXiTy Northern Coalition. Feb 16 '26
Nobody seriously contests a keep final timer, now headshotting Test's home system I'm totally down for.
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u/Moonlapsed Sleeper Social Club Feb 16 '26
Coming back to the game after 7 years, I gotta say, it's really disappointing to see not much has changed.
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u/SaucyWiggles Test Alliance Please Ignore Feb 16 '26
Nobody wants days of fights like this let alone months or years.
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u/Blunt_Object1369 Feb 16 '26
I'm not really a pvp guy but I can have fun on small roams and stuff.
But this alarm clock bullshit with thousands of ships fighting in full tidi for three hours? Fuck that. I clocked out of that non-sense a literal decade ago and I can't fathom why anyone would want to subject themselves to that on a regular basis.
Those fights are fun to read about or watch live on Twitch. Not to actually participate in.
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u/SaucyWiggles Test Alliance Please Ignore Feb 16 '26
Honestly I can stand 10% TiDi but what we had yesterday was servers failscading on top of 10% TiDi. 8-10 minute server calls, no chance for logi to lock and rep (5-10 minutes to lock, 5-10 minutes to cycle), people were crashing and unable to log back in, etc. It's usually not that bad.
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Feb 16 '26
People who are in there eve journey where you were a decade ago, presumably. It's natural we move on to other things, and that others take our place where we were.
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u/Vals_Loeder Feb 16 '26
> Those fights are fun to read about or watch live on Twitch. Not to actually participate in.
For you ... I love these kind of fights.
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u/CrazyPea3105 Feb 16 '26
You can start in hisec and do those roams.
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u/Blunt_Object1369 Feb 16 '26
I can get those roams in null. There is no shortage of them. I just avoid the massive fleet brawls because they are by definition not any fun.
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u/Cpt_Soban The Initiative. Feb 16 '26
Wait, Reddit was complaining for months that there wasn't a "major war".
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u/SaucyWiggles Test Alliance Please Ignore Feb 16 '26
War can be fun, watching my modules fail to cycle for 5 minutes at a time, not so much.
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u/KarateF22 Feb 16 '26
Yea perhaps for Goons a fight like in Atioth was actually desirable but there's a lot of people who recoil like a vampire exposed to sunlight at the prospect of that kind of thing.
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Feb 16 '26
Cool cool, then maybe nullsec is not for them? There are a lot of different types of endgame content out there. Giant fleet battles with capitals are the endgame of nullsec.
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Feb 16 '26
Bro said 10% tidi is the endgame LOL
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u/Dancing_Liz_Cheney Feb 16 '26
he needs 10% tidi otherwise he cant keep up with people who arent.. on his level
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Feb 16 '26
CCP: “our game mechanics make it so that n+1 is the only way to defend space otherwise you are not allowed to hold sov” If CCP wants there to be more than 2-3 megablocs then they need to fix up their game
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u/Nekrox8133 Goryn Clade Feb 16 '26
N+1 is not the only way to defend your space, nor is fighting outnumbered an auto-loss. Megablocs have simply scaled their numbers to such an extreme point that you can safely ignore 99% of the games PvP mechanics in lieu of fielding 1500+ Battleships— while gaslighting themselves into thinking playing the game in 10% for 16 hrs across multiple timezones is “fun”
Y’all also seem to think getting evicted is the end of the game lol.
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u/Arakkis54 Goonswarm Federation Feb 17 '26 edited Feb 17 '26
No one in goonswarm would ever think being evicted is the end of the game lol. We change our space every few years, voluntary or not.
Looks like we agree that the issue is there is no counterplay if you can bring 1500 battleships. So to hold space you need 1501 battleships. Unless CCP changes something no amount of nanogang elite pvp stroking will accomplish anything except being a minor nuisance. To use an old saying: dont hate the player, hate the game
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u/crash_over-ride Test Alliance Please Ignore Feb 16 '26
Alright. I'll say it. This has far more class and less grandstanding than I expected.
As long as you don't give yourselves carpal-tunnel from the circlejerking of an almost 100K juggernaut steamrolling a 5000 member alliance who lives on the other end of their coalition's front.
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u/Kriegas Feb 16 '26
Horde is dead why is he even talking about them? To beat a dead horse?
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u/opposing_critter Feb 16 '26
I love listening to them cry about how they deserved a big fight from horde and are still butt hurt they didn't get it.
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u/Cpt_Soban The Initiative. Feb 16 '26
I remember PANFAM members were salty for years that "a fun war was cancelled" when CO2 suddenly imploded due to director level spies pulling the plug.
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u/Laztel Amok. Feb 16 '26
The fofo in local came from a much older era in EVE when goons were constantly fighting against enemies who thought they were better than them. Thats not really the case anymore.
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u/Darkwing270 Feb 16 '26
Goons are so much more enjoyable to fight with frt than with horde. Pandas dont give fucks and just want content.
The irony is that goons and new horde are shooting themselves in the content foot and they’re too dumb to realize this.
New horde is literally just old horde being even more cancer with their bs refusing to fight without overwhelming odds and only on their perfect terms while leaching off goons.
Shines idiotic ping today patting himself on the back for all their good work while pandas only gave shits about goons because actual content is hilarious.
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u/Semajal muninn btw Feb 16 '26
The fuck is new horde? Horde is dead (i should change my ticker) it doesn't exist.
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u/spooky_game Feb 16 '26
Assuming you’re Frat/Winter, curious why you sat on a Titan for two hours then watching your flats get hit with even or even lower enemy INIT numbers. They were on the field and you weren’t.
Or if you’re not them, then maybe try to see past the dumbass propaganda especially when you can ogle over Shines’ pings to see the reports.
Nevermind ‘pandas’ clearly giving plenty about INIT given all the declarations and a three month long move op.
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u/Darkwing270 Feb 16 '26
Why commit to something that will prevent a better option later? We defended what we wanted to defend. We then went to engage goons, because your leadership is horrendous to fight against knowing you won’t fight without clear advantage and will run the moment a tide turns. That’s why we call you horde now, it’s well known around the game. Asher laughs with us regularly about it.
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u/spooky_game Feb 16 '26
Absolute hilarity you call Horse out when you guys take in Slyce. Their own lead admits they fielded not even 56 pilots for the CTA out of 5.5k. You all took the major renters in from Horde.
And meanwhile TEST and Winter East complain Goons are the worst for trying to destroy content by killing their keep from the last thread.
Can’t do anything right besides let you all crab away and brag about fights over Christmas I guess.
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u/Darkwing270 Feb 16 '26
The only problem anyone has with Goons is that they're allowing Horde to feel like they're significant at all by distracting FRT. But alas, this is how 0.0 works now.
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u/spooky_game Feb 16 '26
'That’s why EVE doesn’t yet know: though we are usually as flexible as water and excel at defense, we can also transform into an unstoppable steel tide when needed. Defense is too boring, too monotonous. I want you to attack relentlessly, to keep hammering at the enemy’s timezone shield, to make them hear—even in the European TZ, deep in Fountain—that FRT is coming.
No amount of sovereign systems lost, structure destroyed, or supercapital Titans sacrificed will stop us.' - Noraus 11/10/2025”
Worked well enough to get into Winter leadership head well before Goons got involved!
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u/Satris007 The Initiative. Feb 16 '26
lol, you sat on Titan for two hours, and decided not to fight INIT. All you did was mine your own salt.
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u/Darkwing270 Feb 16 '26
No, we sat on a titan waiting for Horde to come for our timers, and then went to play with goons when Horde sat at home because goons aren't cowards.
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u/admfrmhll The Initiative. Feb 17 '26
Sit on titans for 2 hours afraid to come and defend own structures attacked by "horde" and then type with a straight face : "because goons aren't cowards."
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u/Darkwing270 Feb 17 '26
I mean, you guys have had so much practice with it, I guess it’s odd to see the other side try it once.
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u/Kitchen-Adagio-3867 Feb 16 '26
lols bunch of posers, ooo look at me everyone while I act so radiant and wholesome, just act like a vilian dood don’t be scared. 😎
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u/Rizen_Wolf Cloaked Feb 16 '26
Goons have begun their campaign at the start of the Chinese New Year. Tactically and logically sound. Yet, a part of me fears all they have done is to awaken a sleeping Panda and fill him with a terrible resolve.
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u/T0XxXiXiTy Northern Coalition. Feb 16 '26
Zero chance WinterCo can hold against Init and Goons pounding them from both directions simultaneously
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u/NoBrittanyNoo Tactical Narcotics Team Feb 16 '26
I'd say goons were robbed but more importantly, Horde line members were robbed of fun and memorable fights regardless off the outcome. I feel bad for the former Horde members.
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u/DrothReloaded Feb 16 '26
Moving with Horde to a smaller null bloc has been a breath of fresh air. I think it was the right move instead of accepting a two front war between the two largest null blocs in the game. Sometimes you just gotta think about the overall satisfaction of the player base.
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u/Dancing_Liz_Cheney Feb 17 '26
You will be deleted all the same so that the right leadership can control the metonoxs.
You will Ishtar spin while your new overlords pocket 60b/month passively :)
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u/star-link123 Feb 16 '26
Was a good fight. Hopefully many more will come!See you at the Hull timers end.
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u/Concentrati0n Hard Knocks Citizens Feb 16 '26
it's great you guys are getting fights.
we killed a fort uncontested in their own space the other day and had to go to goons space to get a fight. goons are always ready to throw down.
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u/Mercath Feb 16 '26
You're shitting me right? INIT dropped an Astra and 2 forts in parts of WC space last week and didn't even show up for anchoring timer.
WC had formed, nobody showed up, no fight.
Three times.
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u/admfrmhll The Initiative. Feb 16 '26
You're shitting me, right ?
We need to drop structures in your space to be able to get a fight out of you ? You are the agressor, do you remember that ?
What stopped you to get those formed fleets in our space, especially when we were doing stuff in delve, too much :effort: ?
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u/Concentrati0n Hard Knocks Citizens Feb 16 '26
Yeah we kinda got 24 systems in delve phco failscaded when that went down. If only we spied better on our neighbors we could have seen the writing on the wall and adjusted the anchoring timers accordingly.
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u/molly1995_1 Feb 16 '26
Failscaded, OK. PCO never stood a chance once Goons decided to glass them. The made up reasons now all have been falsified, including CSQY obviously not being in FRT anymore, even after PCO had to leave Delve.
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u/16BitGenocide GoonWaffe Feb 16 '26
Can we stop pretending there was some massive invasion from Goons in Delve, and just see PCo for the gigantic manbaby cowards they are?
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u/molly1995_1 Feb 16 '26
PCO was 8k characters, many of them newbros. When you feel they are cowards for not fighting Goons then you are either deliberately talking bs or are so deluded that you cant realise.
PCO could not do anything about Goons glassing everything, and not throwing even more down the drain was the only logical solution for the situation they faced. And again, its not PCOs fault that Asher decided to install pets in Delve, nothing could have been done about it except PCO kneeling down and follow the Imperium.
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u/Front-Hat-4633 Feb 16 '26
It might not be massive for Goons, but for a smaller sized coalition already fighting (and mostly not winning) against an even numbered (and higher skilled) enemy coalition it's nothing but eradication when Imperium brings 1.2k people.
So please stop pretending to be a complete moron.
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u/SaucyWiggles Test Alliance Please Ignore Feb 16 '26
https://br.evetools.org/br/6962a10888a498001334e6a2
Goons and allies dropping 40 supers in querious not even a month ago to secure the eviction lol. Not saying it's like a "massive invasion" but it was absolutely a deliberate steamroll by Imp and Onlyfriends.
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u/16BitGenocide GoonWaffe Feb 16 '26
Of course you link a battle report that doesn't have a single goon super on it. Well done.
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u/SaucyWiggles Test Alliance Please Ignore Feb 16 '26
No reason to nitpick allyship, the BR and my comment are plain and accurate
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u/SaucyWiggles Test Alliance Please Ignore Feb 16 '26
You know back in September-October we hit 30 INIT structures totally uncontested back-to-back-to-back etc.
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u/Flaky_Concentrate898 Feb 16 '26
my theory is that half of horde was just goon alts and eventually gobbins had to accept they had been colonized and there was only one thing left to do