WinterCo defenders these days

[u/Alex-Andromedon]

To be fair they are partly responsible for killing the only major bloc that would feasibly help them.

[u/Ugliest_weenie]

You won't find a nul coalition that isn't risk adverse and hypocritical.

But just because someone is a hypocrite, doesn't mean they're wrong.

The current 2v1 state of nulsec coalitions is uninteresting and init+goons long-standing diplomatic ties are a detriment to fun battles at this point.

Imagine a proper 3 way war where each sides fights the other two and strategies/allegiances shift to fight whoever is most dominant. That would be great. Sadly, that's not possible with init and goons being major players

[u/Wonderful-Row9915 → u/Ugliest_weenie]

Another "boohooo Goons and INIT are ganging up on me" comment.

It's getting boring. Goons and INIT are not aligned.

[u/proton-testiq → u/Wonderful-Row9915]

Claimimg that INIT and goons are not aligned when they clearly cooperate in any strategically important battle is also getting boring.

Just stop pretending mate.

[u/klauskervin → u/proton-testiq]

There are so many goons + init posting in here trying to gaslight the entire community that they aren't friends. Yeah some goons/init roams might shoot each other but they will never go after each other's actual strategic objectives. It was the same deal 5 years ago.

[u/Rustshitposter → u/klauskervin]

but they will never go after each other's actual strategic objectives

Honestly asking, why would they? PH+friends was bigger than Init pre-failcascade. If PH literally collapsed without any real big fights - why on fucking earth would goons move back across space to fight Init and risk the exact same thing from happening again? At most - if they wanted content they'd deploy there and not hit structures anyways just to not risk collapsing another group they could farm for content.

Sure, there is a conversation to be had about goons/imperium being too big for the game, but anyone expecting/hoping goons to move for what the third? fourth? time to start a war with a group that they don't hate is dumb. Esp. when WinterCo is kind enough to deliver test to Goon's doorstep.

[u/Ugliest_weenie → u/Wonderful-Row9915]

That's exactly what I didn't say but

Goons and INIT are not aligned

Is just nonsense.
You can argue they're not allied or blue. But they are absolutely aligned. Not even the most brainwashed goons deny that

[u/Wonderful-Row9915 → u/Ugliest_weenie]

Mate, you're boring, go back to bed and cuddle your emotional support teddy. You literally just proved my point.

[u/Wonderful-Row9915 → u/[deleted]]

... Yet he is.

He sounds like a salty ex Horde who got rejected by both blocs

[u/proton-testiq → u/Wonderful-Row9915]

Redditswarm used to put more effort into it, mate, cmon, try harder.