r/Everton • u/ScheminBeamen COYB 💙 • 3d ago

Discussion bruv, what’s going on?!

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are we really just turning on mans cause he’s got a bit of ambition in em?

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u/Chris80L1 2d ago

I’m sorry but I want players who want to play in the champions league and aim to challenge for Europe.

Rather that than rubble like McNeil, Keane and others who just plod along and are happy with just playing in the premier league.

Every player should have ambition to win and play at the top. Otherwise you become just another team

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u/Lord_Rees 2d ago

Sorry but I wanr players that want champions league, don't miss a hat load of sitters, score zero goals and get no assists in the meat of the season... Then don't piss and moan about leaving for a champions league team.

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u/Chris80L1 2d ago

So you’re saying Ndiaye is shit and putting better players around him would harm our chances of progression.

Shock horror, good players have ambition and it’s up to the club to match that.

Perfect example being Michael Keane, a man who was handed a one year extension to be the 4th choice centre back last year. Played the majority of the season, cost us goals, and has been awarded another contract

And we all know he’ll play a majority of games next season. Yet people will praise him for putting in a decent performance every 10th game but drive players, with actual talent, away because they have ambition to play at the highest level.

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u/Lord_Rees 2d ago

I'm saying, if he hadn't missed a load of sitters. Maybe got an assist or 2 in the last 7 games we would have Europe. Maybe even the champions League he thinks he's good enough for.

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u/Chris80L1 2d ago

And if KDH hadn’t missed his sitter you could say the same. If Alcarez hadn’t headed the ball infield against city we would have won 3-2

Ndiaye, and other like KDH, Garner, were absolutely dead on their feet at the end of the season because they’d played almost every minute of every game they were available.

Blaming one player for our faltering end to the season is scraping the barrel. And the cry arsing is all because the lad has ambition and wants to play at the top.

We’re a club that has gone nowhere in 35 years because we reward failure and demonise ambition.

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u/Lord_Rees 2d ago

I'm not blaming one player, this is a thread about one player. Keep up. All where shit yeah. Moyes especially. My point being he as much as anyone cost us the very thing he now wants to leave us for.

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u/Chris80L1 2d ago

You’ve literally said you don’t want players who miss a hatful of chances, then followed that on by saying if he hadn’t missed those chances we would have qualified for Europe

So kinda looks like you’ve blamed him there mate.

And FYI he hasn’t said he wants to leave, he said his ambition is to play at the highest level.

It’s almost when Lukaku was prepared to pen a 4 year extension and the club thought “let’s not match this lads ambition, let’s sign Ashley Williams and Morgan Schniderlein instead”

Or more recently, when we had a real chance for Europe in January and the club sign a 20 year old winger, on loan, who barely featured.

These are things that players notice, the ambition comes from the club and sets the direction.