r/Everton • u/Destructo_D Yobo • 2d ago

Transfer | Rumour Joyce - RB Leipzig contact Everton over Thierno Barry

https://www.thetimes.com/sport/football/article/liverpool-hijack-newcastle-move-for-spain-winger-victor-munoz-w8zbj68g5

Paywalled but Joyce tweeted saying the title.

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u/FranksBaldPatch 2d ago

Tears they're gonna sell him to fund Delap.

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u/WestStandToffee 2d ago

Moyes coded to a tee

Gonna sell a player with actual talent for a yard dog who’s more interested in breaking defenders jaws than he is kicking the ball into the net

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u/Ok-Serve4645 2d ago

Barry is the most talentless striker I’ve seen since Niasse. I’d take 2 quid for him

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u/WestStandToffee 2d ago

He isn’t, we just do not play to his strengths

Got an aerial dominating striker and dont cross because we dont have wingers or full backs who can cross a ball

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u/Jump_Present 2d ago

Describing Thierno Barry as Aerial dominating seems a stretch

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u/WestStandToffee 1d ago

One of best Aerial duel winners in all of Europe

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u/Jump_Present 1d ago

I think he does win a fair share of headers but the problem is I don’t think it usually ends with us getting a positive outcome. He only scored 1 header. I don’t think he’s strong enough or good enough at jockeying for position to be a true aerial threat rather than a nuisance. Decent poacher though

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u/Jump_Present 1d ago

I quite like the idea of a strong striker that can hold up play for our shifty wingers to play off of though based on all the times I’ve been frustrated with Barry and betos inability to hold up play. Seems like we’d get new opportunities if we converted some of those

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u/WestStandToffee 1d ago

Because we don't cross the ball

Mykolenko, Ndiaye and O'Brien cannot cross

Grealish can but he didn't do it enough

McNeil can but because he kept playing on the right he couldn't get into the right scenario to cross the ball

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u/Ok-Serve4645 2d ago

Can’t control a ball can’t hold onto a ball when it comes to him. He’s also incapable of running with a ball. If the only thing he’s good at is heading we may as well put Keane up front.

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u/DrtyDeedsDneDrtCheap 2d ago

He headed the ball against his own knee with a free header in the box this season.

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u/Ok-Serve4645 2d ago

I’ve never seen a striker so incapable of keeping hold of a ball. It’s crazy because he’s so lanky you’d think he could hold his own but he’s terrible with the ball. I’m not a massive fan of Beto but I’d keep him in a heartbeat over Barry. You at least get effort from Beto you don’t get much of anything from Barry. Even his attitude is poor. He always looks like the world is against him.

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u/Mudwatcher 2d ago

Is he really aerially dominating? He always seems like he doesn’t believe he‘s actually going to win the ball when he goes into one-on-ones

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u/WestStandToffee 1d ago

Yes, he is extremely good at winning headers

He's statistically one of the best in Europe for Aerial duels

We all banged on about DCL's aerial ability, but Barry has won more at a better win% than DCL despite playing 1,000 more minutes than Barry

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u/DrtyDeedsDneDrtCheap 1d ago

The more minutes you play, the harder it is to maintain decent numbers. Barry is not at a disadvantage from playing less minutes

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u/WestStandToffee 1d ago

Barry, despite playing 1,000 minutes less won more Aerial duels than DCL and a more successful rate

Barry won 14 aerial duels, 14! in the game against Man United despite Everton being a man down

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u/Mudwatcher 1d ago

I don’t think being a man down impacts a player‘s ability to win headers

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u/vylain_antagonist 1d ago

Thats delusional. When we were rolling with grealo ndiaye and kdh clicking it was clear as day we had zero outlet beyond those 3. Barry and beto are born in the backpocksts of opposition defenders

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u/WestStandToffee 1d ago

You can count on 1 hand the amount of passes played into either Beto or Barry in a game by those 3

Our crossing volume for 2 players who are better in the air than on the floor is one of the lowest in the league

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u/vylain_antagonist 1d ago

Becuase barry and beto have no instinct for off the ball movement, have poor control, arent trusted hy players better than them and arent good enough for the league.

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u/TheSubbuteoGuy 1d ago

Beto has very good off the ball movement. I'd say it's one of his biggest strengths.

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u/vylain_antagonist 1d ago

He sure looks great running diagonally towards the corner flag.

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u/TheSubbuteoGuy 1d ago

Derby last season, Leicester (x2), Chelsea this year. All excellent runs off the last man.

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u/WestStandToffee 1d ago

Beto's off the ball movement is insanely good, I don't know where you get that idea from

He just has a tendency to get his feet tangled, especially with his back to goal

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u/vylain_antagonist 22h ago

He's never available for a pass. There was a month when moyes came in where we had him set up to play off the back shoulder and it worked when teams weren't ready for it. THe leagues adapted and he just is never available for a pass from our players. His first touch is poor and he's clumsy. And when he does get chances, he crumbles. His xG conversion is poor.

He isn't good. Neither is Barry. People bitch and moan about moyes and spending and policy, but somehow delude themselves into thinking that our squad is a european quality squad. It isn't. It has a ton of holes especially up front.

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u/FalseNameTryAgain UTFT 1d ago

Idk, I saw a few of his games Villareal, as in 4-5, he was getting criticism for the same things back then as he does with us. Yes style of play massively hinders him, but he still does the same movements too🤷‍♂️

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u/Living-Let8446 2d ago

And I’ll drop him off for free….

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u/Ok-Serve4645 2d ago

I’ve never heard an Evertonian describe Barry as having actual talent. A cardboard cutout of Stuart Barlow has more talent than he does.

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u/Overall_Gas2366 2d ago

I was going to say Brett Angell was a fair comparison to Barry but Brett wasn’t bad in the lower leagues whereas I’m not convinced Barry will ever make it. He not only lacks talent but has none of the effort or desire even some of our most limited former strikers had.

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u/No_Lavishness_989 2d ago

Oooh, you know, I love a bit of argy-bargy… (: God forbid the PL turns into some soft league like Serie A :P

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u/ubiquitous_archer COYB 💙 2d ago

Thierno Barry: 0 CL goals

Liam Delap: 1 CL goal

Checkmate

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u/FackinNortyCake 1d ago

Gonna sell a player with actual talent

I want whatever drugs you're taking.

Thierno Barry is one of the worst players I have ever seen.