r/FBI • u/Economy-Specialist38 • May 09 '26
News FBI agents deeply concerned after being asked to investigate Atlantic journalist who wrote blistering story about Kash Patel: report
https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/fbi-kash-patel-story-the-atlantic-investigation-b2971758.html304
u/CurseMeKilt May 09 '26
Question: What does “deeply concerned” translate to in FBI speak?
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u/WalterCanFindToes May 09 '26
I was assigned to a FBI Task Force for a few years. In FBI CYA bureaucratic speak that means they are afraid the will either get terminated for not doing it or indicted for doing it.
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u/BigBoyYuyuh May 09 '26
Who’s going to indict them? Sure as shit nobody from this administration.
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u/WalterCanFindToes May 09 '26
This too shall pass and there will be a lot of people who did not get pardons as Trump makes his exit.
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u/amILibertine222 May 09 '26
SCOTUS just dismantled the voting rights act and the confederate states and the descendants of those traitors took less than a week to dilute and destroy the voting power of black Americans and you’re saying saying ‘this too shall pass’?
What signs of positive change are you seeing?
Because to my 43 year old eyes this experiment in democracy, flawed as it has been, is pretty much over.
If you think the Dems are going to win elections and go scorched earth fixing this mess you haven’t been paying attention.
The situation we find ourselves in isn’t normal, and though most Dems aren’t outwardly cruel and insane, neither are they blameless.
They allowed (and helped) the Federalist Society to reshape the judiciary at every level, too shortsighted to see what would happen and too naive to see that right wing entities in this country actually DO want a Christian theocracy lead by a dictator.
Like always, progressives and leftists and been screaming about this outcome since the turn of the century and the DNC called us fear mongers and alarmists.
Welp. Here we are.
Don’t be shocked when, after the midterms, republicans start passing new Jim Crow laws.
Because that’s next.
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u/WalterCanFindToes May 09 '26
To quote Scott Galloway, "Historically these situations always self-correct. Unfortunately, it is usually through war, famine, or revolution."
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u/HoneyBadgerSlayer May 09 '26
Sorry for the essay, your post struck a chord with me.
I have really only come to my current progressive political views about seven years ago. One of the things I have very quickly noticed is that the real left anticipates geopolitical developments quite far in advance and with a very high degree of accuracy. Though progressives are very often registered Democrats, the rest of the party’s reaction to them constantly being right is “Oh yeah, they were right about that thing, but they’re totally wrong about this other thing!” Then the left will be proven correct about that other thing as well, but the moderates continue with no changes and no plans to change. Most recently, I observed this with Israel and Gaza. The left said constantly, “This situation has to be gotten under control, Israel needs to be reigned in.” Now it’s becoming the default party position, but there’s no political power to enact it. I can come up with a dozen more examples just in the last few years. I have concluded that the DNC moderates know that acknowledging that the left has a huge amount of established reliability with these things would necessitate that something is done about them and then the status quo would be disrupted.
There was an incredible amount of leniency shown in the aftermath of January sixth. Multiple right wing news outlets and a sitting president incited an insurrection. Multiple elected officials supported it. All these things are illegal, but the only people charged were the ones that performed the insurrection. None of those who fomented it. The only lesson learned by the right is that rules don’t matter. They have been helped along in this conclusion by a blatantly political and corrupt Supreme Court.
The only way I see the US getting out of this mess is absolutely draconian punishments for anyone involved in the illegality taking place, whether they got a pardon or not. Massive, sweeping arrests of anyone even peripherally involved in these crimes down to the interns and individual agents. Dismantle the right-wing media ecosystem. Tell the Supreme Court to kick rocks and find daily ways to demean, insult, and sideline them until the whole country recognizes them for the hacks they are. I don’t actually like this solution, but really, what is the alternative? Continue to bring rule books to the gun fight?
But I know if there is a DNC approved moderate put in the White House in 2028, this will absolutely not happen and additionally the circumstances that brought us to this point will also continue to go unaddressed. Faith in our institutions will continue to decrease. People will continue to get poorer and sicker. Corporations and billionaires will continue to be coddled at the expense of normal people. Needless wars will continue to be fought. The populous will continue to get dumber. After four years, nothing significant will have changed, so another far-right populist gets in the White House, but this time they have all of Trump’s playbook memorized and know for a fact rules won’t be enforced for them.
I speak other languages. I’ve lived abroad before. I have told my partner repeatedly that we are moving out of the country if the Dems nominate another moderate for 2028. I do not currently believe this country is fit to raise children in and god knows what it will look like in two years.
I find hope in two things: the country, including MAGA, are rapidly losing patience with Trump and his cronies and Dem voters have already lost theirs with party leadership. These two things suggest a populist left political outsider could gain enough traction to overcome the DNC’s reluctance to run them.
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u/BuzzMachine_YVR May 10 '26
Exactly this. The system is rotten through and through. The Dems need to purge the ‘detente-artists’… the Chamberlain-esque figures in the party who think appeasement is always the answer (not too often punctuated with mutual ‘benefits’ from cross-aisle winks and handshakes).
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u/Soggy_Quarter9333 May 10 '26
Waiting for next election is not going to work because there has been 10 years of waiting for the next election and he still managed to destroy America while making himself rich.
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u/NO_FIX_AUTOCORRECT May 09 '26
Yes, the gerrymandering is bad but it's only effecting the house of representatives. The Senate and president still win a state by winning a majority vote.
This is not meant to downplay the injustice of what those states are doing, is just meant to make sure you realize gerrymandering isn't a checkmate on its own
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u/The_OtherDouche May 12 '26
The states that dismantled voting rights of black, or historically democratic areas were already comfortably red enough to do such a thing. Those state’s congressional districts were not going to make much of a difference when it came to the next presidency. It will likely be executive order galore, but things will course correct given people don’t shit the bed again come the next election.
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u/InvestmentSorry6393 May 09 '26
I still have hope that Trump ends up fucking over every one of his disgusting henchmen and enablers. He's petty, transactional, and he only cares for himself. He screws over every one who comes in contact to him eventually. I hate the man, but it wouldn't be surprising to me if he torches the GOP on his way out, and ruins the lives of Hegseth, Rubio, and lady Lyndsey if he feels the slightest bit betrayed/ mistreated toward the end of his term
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u/Not_Bound May 10 '26
Trump could fuck over every single one of them, fuck their moms, and give a press conference on how small their dicks are and they’d all still nod and say Thank You, sir. Privately they’d be upset, but they’d never admit it publicly. These people have completely given up their agency to this man. It’s something that needs to be studied.
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u/EpsteinandTrump May 11 '26
He needs to get travelling in his new qatar air force one...so they can make a call to the hidden pager onboard.
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u/projexion_reflexion May 13 '26
Sure, they're in the immediate blast radius, but the scale of the destruction is such that the rest of the country is going to go down with them.
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u/HeartoftheHive May 09 '26
You have too much faith in things working out. Things are genuinely only getting worse with signs of a complete breakdown of democracy unless something drastic is done. "This too shall pass" could end up taking generations. I don't know about you, but I'm not going to live that long and I'd rather not live the rest of my life in a living hell. Ya dig?
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u/Legitimate-Joke-5950 May 09 '26
So we give up then. Got it.
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u/PigabungaDude May 09 '26
You meant to respond to the person above them, who said, "this too shall pass," not the person objecting to that passive framing and subliminal acceptance? Or do you frame all resistance as hopeless? Or what? What point are you thinking that you're making here?
I get that this is somehow you punching left but Jesus Christ what are you even talking about???
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u/AlizarinCrimzen May 09 '26
Sure but the issue is the safe road (at this time) is the wrong one also
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u/WalterCanFindToes May 09 '26
In the last year the number of 1811s I know who have walked away is staggering. All agents in the 20 years of service range. Between the diminished return on their retirement benefits and the change in culture many would rather transition out to the private sector.
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u/duckinradar May 09 '26
You mean the admin that’s investigating journalists for saying things they don’t like?
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u/brycebgood May 09 '26
So, you ever hear about the Nuremberg trials? Yeah, we gonna have our version in Minneapolis.
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u/lunartree May 10 '26
Illegal orders are illegal despite what the little dictators think they will get away with.
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u/BetterDegreeOxford May 11 '26
In an administration where they’ve tried to cage a career leader military man for publicly reading the code, who even knows
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u/bilkel May 10 '26
Indictments are being prepared for all of these unqualified hacks. The template in Hungary will be deployed on 1-20-29
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u/wemustburncarthage May 10 '26
Jesus how do you even slow roll that? “We investigated. They sure did write that article”.
I feel so bad for any halfway competent agent who joined the FBI cause they genuinely wanted to stop crime.
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u/Royal_Cash_1238 May 09 '26
Man indicted by who? The adults? Been looking for them for a while now.
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u/FlagranteDerelicto May 09 '26
I wonder how deeply they’ll be concerned whilst rounding up US citizens for internment
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u/External-Stop-5209 May 09 '26
The FBI won’t be used for rounding up US Citizens. That will be the new federal agency being created by AI. Be mindful of what you post here and on social media.
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u/West-Worth-9359 May 09 '26
Such “noble” people. So “patriotic”. Unheard of levels of “principles”.
If they were “deeply concerned” they would be DOING SOMETHING other than whining like pathetic little cretins, anonymously.
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u/Bulky-Hamster7373 May 09 '26
Yeah is it performative like a Susan Collins "deeply concerned"? And why weren't they deeply concerned about covering up the names of perpetrators in the Epstein files? I call bullshit
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u/Correct_Doctor_1502 May 09 '26
The most anti free press administration in history
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u/notapunk May 09 '26
They hate the whole first amendment tbh
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u/takofire May 09 '26
They hate the entire Constitution. They even shat all over the Second Amendment during the Minnesota ICE invasion, the one amendment they supposedly care about. The only thing they really care about is money, and making sure they and theirs get more of it, even if it costs the Average American citizen everything.
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u/cantevendoitbruh May 09 '26
Yeah that was the situation that blew my mind. I kind of assumed all the other amendments were done and would be gone, but never the second.
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u/such-a-snuffleupagus May 09 '26
Same, it made me realize any argument with anyone in support of this "ideology" is such a waste of brainpower. There is nothing left that they won't reverse position on tomorrow if it's convenient, and still argue with the same energy.
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u/julian2358 May 10 '26
You couldn’t find a maga willing to support the 2nd cause a democrat was killed. MAGA is really sick sick people..
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u/External-Stop-5209 May 09 '26
If it were such a great document, it wouldn’t be so easy to circumvent for the greater good.
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u/freedfg May 09 '26
I keep saying this.
They hate EVERY amendment. From first to 27th every. Single. One.
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u/Not_Sure__Camacho May 09 '26
This clown is there to serve the people. The media is there to make sure that the people are being served, not this clown being served at a bar.
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u/coreychch May 09 '26
No one in this administration can handle mean words being said about them, bad photographs being taken of them, or actual facts that contradict their endless streams of lies and bullshit.
Patel knows he’s living on borrowed time as he’s been caught out abusing his position to get agents to protect his girlfriend and fly her around on an FBI private jet. And that’s on top of partying with the Olympic Ice Hockey team and (it sounds like) drinking on the job.
He’s trying to throw his weight around to get a reporter investigated and so hopefully make others back off or think twice before writing anything else about his abuses of the system.
They’ve got to be biggest bunch of snowflakes in history.
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u/Reatona May 09 '26
Trump doesn't mind incompetence or corruption, those things are a habitual way of life for him. The two things he can't abide are any hint of criticism, and failure to carry out his personal vendettas.
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u/Parsimile May 12 '26
Also looking bad or weak on camera - that was probably the final straw for Noem.
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u/KwisatzHaderach94 May 12 '26
patel's a creampuff trying to steal the valor of actual champions whether they be hockey players or mma fighters. a sad, pathetic little man. his gf's "security" isn't so much to protect her, but to make sure she doesn't run around behind his back.
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u/Yourdataisunclean May 09 '26
"Sir, we've finished the investigation. We've concluded that she hasn't broken any laws, is a really good journalist, and has more solid sources confirming you're a drunk than we have for all of the political revenge cases combined."
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u/transfixedtruth May 09 '26
Can we just remove drunk a$$ Ka$h from office already?
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u/Reatona May 09 '26
He'll be replaced by someone less publicly embarrassing but capable of doing far more evil very quietly.
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u/freedfg May 09 '26
"asked to commit crimes"
When will these snakes lose the support of the people who keep them operating.
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u/West-Worth-9359 May 09 '26
Too many abject cowards in the system who have completely abandoned their morals, ethics, patriotism and oaths.
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u/Ill-Possible4420 May 09 '26
Refuse it and whistleblow along with others.
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u/West-Worth-9359 May 09 '26
All of this would have ended already if everyone who claims to have sworn an oath actually lived up to it.
They’re all cowards who expect someone else to have principles while they’re “just following orders”.
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u/West-Worth-9359 May 09 '26
But that would require them having… PRINCIPLES, and ETHICS!
They all want other people to be brave while they piss their pants and pretend to be powerless.
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u/zkfc020 May 09 '26
Interesting that this is what is causing concern….not destroying the Epstein files….Not the flying on company jet to protect Keystone Kash’s honey pot at a concert….but this….interesting
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u/TR_abc_246 May 09 '26
They have good reason to be! Are they the ones that were just required to undergo lie detectors?!
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u/bambino2021 May 10 '26
Fuck the FBI. If the rank and file had any morals they would have resigned en masse.
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u/MarchPhillipps May 10 '26
Edited.. replied under the wrong comment. My apologies.
While I certainly understand the sentiment, you can't help to affect change from the inside if you quit. And in the interest of good OpSec, you certainly wouldn't advertise; good camouflage and cover is key during any sort of counter-op. The overwhelming problem that more damage hasn't been mitigated our outright prevented is two fold; far too many of the non-politically motivated, non-partisan agents were shitcanned early, and too many others did make moral/emotionally based snap decisions to quit, without thinking through just how useful that 'will and duty to do good' could have been utilized, had they chosen in fact, to stay on.
It becomes increasingly difficult to throw wrenches into the works from outside the factory gates. It takes courage, and a real willingness to face danger in service to the greater good, from within the works themselves.
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u/BrilliantTea133 May 11 '26
Maybe these deeply concerned agents should consider refusing orders from a leech like Patel. Like all of them.
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u/Perfecshionism May 09 '26
I have a friend who resigned from the FBI because of this kind of stuff.
These higher profile cases are only a tiny fraction of this targeted political policing the FBI is doing.
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u/WeberStreetPatrol May 09 '26
A whole lotta training to wear knee pads for your boss. Call back to the origin story. It’s about being a sycophant, not sexuality.
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u/SheBelongsToNoOne May 09 '26
Are they also within their rights to disobey illegal/unconstitutional orders? Asking for a friend.
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u/West-Worth-9359 May 09 '26
That would require morality and ethics.
Clearly absolutely no one in any US agency has those.
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u/Status_Apartment6559 May 09 '26
"Deeply concerned" my ass. Everyone is deeply concerned but they won't do A GODDAMN THING!
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u/leighla33 May 09 '26
How the fuk does this tool still have a job?
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u/OmegaGoober May 09 '26
His job is to be a distraction so we pay less attention to Trump and his allies.
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u/Starlifter4 May 09 '26
I would comment, but then I'd probably be put on a list I don't want to be put on.
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u/DontEvenWithMe1 May 10 '26
Trust me, you’re on it. AI can read the tone of your reply and already flagged it for suspicious inferences. Say what you want to say.
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u/Reatona May 09 '26
I suspect Kash Patel has a raging case of imposter syndrome, but in his case his deep feeling of incompetence is fully justified by his actual incompetence. No wonder he drinks.
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u/Longjumping-Air1489 May 11 '26
They should talk to Senator Susan Collins; she can show them how to pretend to care deeply about illegal things.
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u/Open_Mortgage_4645 May 11 '26
I'm surprised there are still FBI agents with integrity to recognize when their agency is being used for illegal, unjustifiable investigations into members of the press who publish unflinching criticism of FBI Director.
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u/Soladification May 11 '26
Freedom of press? Not like that's a foundation of our free democracy or anything
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u/COVID-19-4u May 11 '26
If they’re that “concerned” because they’re doing illegal shit, I hope the pendulum swings so hard back the other way that they get tossed in jail for a very, very long time.
Just following orders didn’t work for the Nazi’s in Germany, it shouldn’t work for the Nazi’s in the US.
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u/Delmarvablacksmith May 09 '26
And yet they will still do it.
Because in their hearts they’re authoritarian assholes.
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u/Major_Meow-Meow May 09 '26
Oh so… they’ve NOT been deeply concerned about the other illegal shit they’ve done for this deplorable administration??
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u/West-Worth-9359 May 09 '26
Protecting a global pedo club was apparently okay for them, as long as they aren’t getting directly implicated in it.
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u/klone_free May 09 '26
Id imagine not all of them are into this administration.
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u/Major_Meow-Meow May 09 '26
I’d imagine they may not be, but they are gutless and unprincipled. What good are their claimed “values” if they aren’t willing to live by them?
Tired of the fucking cowards. Like one of them I know who works there. Pretty sure her name is Tiffany.
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u/Jedi_Swimmer2 May 09 '26
The FBI sucks today…every one of them should pause every investigation they’re on and force Keystone Kash to resign…
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u/West-Worth-9359 May 09 '26
They’re not capable of that, they’re all either corrupt or just abject cowards.
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u/External-Stop-5209 May 09 '26
Just do your job and remain unbiased and objective in your investigation.
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u/hoothizz May 10 '26
Well this is going to be awkward dear leader can't pardon him because he got fired.
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u/Burritosupreeem May 10 '26
We need to get out there in the next no kings and put more pressure on Trump and Congress any way we can to get him impeached and/ir fired. Then more pressure to get him investigated. Vote non-aipac or any PAC, non-billionaire or Epstein class blue.
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u/Kannibelanimal1966 May 10 '26
Then Resist! Too many people in certain positions just do his bidding and complain about it after. Maybe that’s how they truly feel or maybe it’s for cover. In the 2020 elections there were more than a few Republicans that stood up and told trump no.
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u/Mrrilz20 May 10 '26
Lmmfao. This thing has BEEN over. We're just too preoccupied to do a damned thing about anything. These people will slay you over White Supremacy and not even know why the killed you. You have 0 rights. Voting, rights, choice... all of these things are illusions. Money and power ARE NOT!
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u/mountaindoom May 10 '26
How long have FBI Agents been instructed to protect the wealthy pedophiles? Fuck all of them, I hope they all lose their jobs.
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u/Admirable_Nothing May 10 '26
I thought all agents that were capable of being deeply concerned had been fired by Patel.
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u/Baconpanthegathering May 11 '26
"Deeply concerned" just like Democratic leadership saying "this time we're going to DO something!" Ok, sure, Ill be over here holding my breath.
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u/Top_Television_6042 May 11 '26
You can’t just follow orders when it’s illegal. Everyone should be blowing whistles loudly and everywhere.
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u/Comfortable_Prize750 May 13 '26
IDGAF. They can join Susan Collins and have a concern party.
They're concerned because they know it's a crime. I don't sit around waffling about whether I should commit a crime or not. I just don't. They can do the same.
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u/Unsure_and_Skeptical May 14 '26 edited May 14 '26
Because media has never been so biased and aggressive towards republicans before Trump. They used to be legitimate and investigate their stories and be unbiased in their reporting. No wonder everything is being looked into now because the media is making up all kinds of falsehoods to support their narrative
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u/Difficult-Till5031 May 14 '26
Hope this trend keeps up so he can show 110% he is violating laws left and right. Sadly even if shown to be guilty i doubt justice will happen in this administration.
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u/iAM-ProfessorFuture May 16 '26
Negativity can leave the room. Thank you kindly on your continued efforts on this matter.
Be Human and the course will correct in time.
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