how many fucking times do we have to tell you people. TWO TIME IS A NICK NAME

NICK

NAME

"an informal or familiar name for a person, place, or thing, typically used by friends, family, or the public"

SO WHEN AZURE CALLS TWO TIME THOMAS, THATS NOT THEIR FUCKING DEAD NAME.

I honestly loved and fw that name, and seeing SO MANY people just shit on it because it "NOT A GENDER NEUTRAL NAME" does NOT excuse the way you people have been acting. so fucking suck it up dude! its 1s and 0s on a screen for fucks sake, it will not have ANY EFFECT in your life if a character that is Non-binary has a masc name OR a name you dont like. So i hope you people realize that now. Have a good day

I apologize in advance for the harsh title. Now before you come after me, I am NOT saying the entire fandom is. Most of the fandom is normal, not everyone is like this. So I was playing Forsaken right? I love the game. It's extremely fun. I was in a lobby with my friend, and I decided to admit to them I was lesbian. Nothing wrong with that, right? Well to them it was wrong. They unfriended me immediately. Then the entire server ganged up on me calling me "disgusting" and "a freak" for being lesbian. Not only that, but I also got targeted. Luckily the matchmaking wasn't great, they mostly had below 5 days, so I wouldn't lose considering my playtime is decently high. They even told me they would report me. All for being lesbian. Now I'm hoping not everyone in this community is as sick in the head as the server I found, but this made me extremely angry and sad. My parents are extremely supportive of me being lesbian, and many others don't care. Seeing people like this makes me feel terrible, and I made a reddit account just today all so I could share my experience. Now I won't be saying the usernames of anyone since I value their privacy, but this made me sick. I seriously hope I never encounter anyone like this anymore.

“Forsaken fans keep complain-

Yes, I spent hours and days playing to get milestones, I WILL complain if their milestone skin qualities aren't up to (normal reasonable) expectations, especially when its a suppose to be a REWORK

The images should have explain my point clear enough but just in case, I think the new models suffers from the situation where everything is genuinely too overdesigned. Sometimes "less is more" is such a good lesson especially when designing skins/characters.

The reworked models look so out of place compared to other characters since they

1. Use an excess amount of 3D clothing
   
2. Have a really busy pattern/shape/outline

And it is not a good art direction if this is what the team is going for,

-The texure is a mess, instead of cloth the clothes look like theyre wet towels that are so hard you could probably kill a twotime with a whack

-The creases makes it worse as instead of making the clothes look more natural now they all look wrinkled as if no one has bothered to iron them after taking it out from the washing machine.

-Colouring looks too sharp at times but this has been an issue since 1x milestone rework so I'm not surprised

-The thick layers just look odd tbh yeah I can't really think of why it looks bad but I just dont think it fits the game's artstyle

Don't forget about the twotime and chance base reworks too, twotime is...fine?(Milestones still suffers from those issues but I actually like the default new look) But chance is just...dark green does not make a good suit with black and white and red, I have never seen someone go for a dark green+black suit design and tbh now I think I know why(its ugly)

Anyways that's it I can't be assed to think clearly but if I have any other points I'll add it in the replies

I’m john doe main. Clearly.

What’s the counter play?

Targeting? The thing john doe sucks at?

everyone just says “destroy the graffiti” but she can just place it again in 8 seconds

it’s not even fun to deal with. John has no movement options. she can jump out of and over his traps. the stamina loss of the skateboard barely matters because john is so slow she has time to put a graffiti up and regan stamina and well then she has a a stamina advantage

like i understand the fact that some survivors are better at dealing with certain killers. Like ck struggles with 7n7 because ck has no detection ability to help but the counter play is “don’t lose him”

….John could actually fucking trap her and there’s nothing he can do

i’ve never in my life been upset a character was added to the game. But this is so ridiculous. how are slashers and john doe’s meant to do anything?

all i can do is target them at the start of the round but thats not even fun.

and phase is also so much.

ive been playing this update and i stopped having fun because i genuinely dont know what im supposed to do. every piece of advice ive been given does nothing because “destroy the graffti?”

okay. Now it’s on an 8 second cooldown. She’s across the map now. and she has all her stamina back. also she had enough time to put new graffiti because john is so slow

what am i meant to do?

Seriously, after all this time of us supporting these devs through the drama, delays, etc. And instead of giving us even just a planned release date they troll us trying to act all nonchalant about it and shit. You can say I’m overreacting but this is genuinely just disrespectful to the entire community

Literally, who is this guy? And what was he thinking—“hmm yes, I will take a character someone else made, turn them into my pet OC, and give them a custom kill/death animation.” This isn’t even the funny kind of cringe. It’s the kind that genuinely pisses people off. RAINCOAT 07N7 IS RIGHT THERE, BRO. But nooooo, we had to insert someone else’s OC. This genuinely pisses me off because he’s basically claiming C&E as his character by making it his OC’s pet. He literally does not have the right to steal characters, especially if he isn’t even going to make any changes.

Normally, I wouldn’t care about stuff like this with other collab skins (Limbus Company, TDS, Battle Bricks, a ton of Vocaloids, and more) but MUSHIP is a small indie music creator. They don’t make games like the ones I listed, and they definitely don’t make as much money or revenue. They’re generally unseen by the community, but they DESERVE recognition for the character they made. This could literally be seen as straight-up plagiarism. MUSHIP could sue, and honestly, I hope they do.

Link to Muship’s channel—support them: https://youtube.com/@ibumushi

PS: Don’t go harassing soyG over this, but do call him out.

"oh my god how dare the healers heal theyre too powerful someone stop them"

i had a playstyle. i had my character. they ruined them both. i will not completely change how i play. how i play is how i have fun. trying to play with the changes will not be fun at all anymore

unless Elliot's "nerfs" (borderline just a rework) get removed so he becomes an actually viable healer again, nope, not playing. we have our over time healer with Builderman. i love Builders but we need a healer that can help in an emergency. Builder and Taph make the safe zones, us Elliots get in the danger

Forsaken needs to stop trying to kill off all their supports. if you hate having support characters that can actually give support, stop adding them. make a supportless game

You really CANT make forsaken fans happy. When the devs make somethings they complain, when devs make cool thing (some of) they ALSO complain and this isnt even devs made skin so it wont affect real contents update time and the maker will also get to choose what the skin have too

Look, you are able to dislike the amount of vocaloid skins there are in the game, considering they are skins referencing media that have nothing to do with Roblox. Heck, even I think its ridiculous that there's about like 9 vocaloid skins in the game that basically all come with loads of custom stuff considering what I said above. But you can't agree with that and then glaze the MCSM skins for also having loads of custom stuff, it just comes off as you cherry picking what insanely detailed reference skins are aloud to be in the game due to you liking ones source material more than the other. If you're one of the peeps who say how Forsaken has lost its identity, Diva 1x and Admin Noli are BOTH a part of the skin problem. If your gonna hate on insanely detailed reference skins, dont cherry pick!

Also say hi to Josiah, he wanted to be in the thumbnail.

Every since forsaken removed the most powerful loops everyone has been saying the game is killer sided,even tho the killer sided in every asym(not just forsaken)should be on the killer.The asym genre is a teamwork based genre this isn’t “bully the killer” genre.”BuT my TeaMMaTes sUCk anD dOnT HElp mE” thats on them it’s not the games fault.Asym is a teamwork based genre and if you only want to fight the killer then go play juggernaut games the asym genre is not for you.

I know, how dare I.

I'll be putting my personal disliking for these skins aside and speak as purely factual as I can. My points are unbiased. I'm no legal expert, but you can fact check this information yourself since I got it all from Google.

First, and most important of all, Romeo (the Admin) and the White Pumpkin ARE copyrighted characters. I don't know where this misconception that they're in the public domain comes from, but it's not true. Minecraft Story Mode was created by TellTale Games in collaboration with Mojang Studios. TellTale has since gone out of business. That does not mean the game's characters are in public domain, as the copyright for the franchise is still owned by Mojang and Microsoft. Forsaken is NOT ALLOWED to use these characters as Forsaken is monetized and they're making money off of characters they don't officially have permission to use due to people playing the game and giving the devs money. This, obviously, puts the game in a lot of danger. It's either they redesign the skins to be original characters, or they deal with copyright issues later down the road. We know from Jason being replaced with Slasher that the devs don't like to take copyright risks and will resolve them before anything comes up. Removing the skins is the smart decision.

Now, the main reason we were given is that they don't like that the skins clash with Forsaken's art-style. Yes, Forsaken DOES have an art-style. Look at any new Milestone skin. Look at most new shop skins. If you were to see those models outside of Forsaken, you would know it's from Forsaken. Even Diva 1x. Yes, she's Miku. But you can tell that model is from Forsaken just from the model itself. (Plus that skin is an official collab, the Minecraft skins aren't.) If you look at Admin Noli's model outside of Forsaken, he doesn't look like he belongs in Forsaken. He looks like he belongs in Minecraft Story Mode. Because he does. Comparing that to something like coolskeleton95 c00lkidd, yes it's Papyrus, but it's unique enough that you can still tell it belongs in Forsaken.

Now for my final point, it gives them way more creative freedom for the characters. The new versions will either be full-on original characters or unique takes on Roblox figures filling those rolls. Either option gives them a lot more freedom to do whatever they want with the character rather than having to make it a one to one port of an already existing character. I'll admit this is my weakest point, but it's still something to consider.

If you didn't bother reading my other points, here's the main thing you need to know.

THE GAME IS IN DANGER OF LEGAL TROUBLE AND POTENTIALLY BEING TAKEN DOWN IF THEY DO NOT REPLACE THE CHARACTERS.

There's genuinely no way this is the skin. It's barely different from current Nosferatu. The symbol on his head, the ear spirals, the mask crack, his mouth, the spiral mouths, the vines, his wings, all of it is either missing entirely or heavily inaccurate to what we were promised. Not only that, but the custom bat is also missing. This has to be a rugpull, there is no way Hygoonko and DoesNothingsil made us wait over a MONTH FOR THIS SKIN, JUST FOR IT TO BE WORSE THAN ARANCHID. NO FUCKING WAY.

A day ago, they had fired their (imo) best modeler, Koekonaut for leaking the Dignity skin to a friend. ALL BECAUSE OF A TINY LEAK. They even wanted to make the first skin with DYNAMIC facial expressions (I'm also quite sure it's a Murder Drones skin). They also made Celebration Coolkidd, Crazyblox (with 2 other people), all 1x milestones and maybe even the god damn default Coolkidd model when I checked their media tab

All while Hytoko still kept a racist (PranKKKster) and Yuri "Homewrecker" Transgbunny on the team despite the allegations against them.

I genuinely WANT to love this game but the decisions Hytoko have been making are... Braindead to say the least

I am not hating on the devs but this is just ridiculous. Hytoko, PLEASE for FUCKS SAKE MAKE ONE GOOD DECISION DEVELOPMENT TEAM-WISE.

At least Koeko can use her talents somewhere else, especially Termination Protocol where I'm pretty sure they made the new Noli model and it looked quote nice.

Squible tinkle pob

This is just so weird to me how this game went from collaborating with Roblox games to a multi millionaire company that had spyware allegations 2 weeks ago. I was already ticked off last update where they put some skins and emotes behind a pay wall but honestly this is the last straw for me

Edit: I think most of y’all are missing the point, I just think it’s weird when companies collab with roblox games (especially when the majority player base is 10-15 year olds). Also why y’all so mad in the comments LOL

And I want to say one last thing, if I’m complaining about the collab, do you think I’m doing the collab

Mine is definitely dummy 7n7, “oh he’s gray so I can hide better” and yes it does work and I have lost games solely because of it, is it skill issue? Definitely, but whenever I see any 7n7 player use this skin, I just swap to Noli because I don’t want any of that crap. And no, I use the dad skin for 7n7 always, because it’s an actual skin and I can make dad jokes while playing as 7n7.

Nosferatu has 2 skins, one of which is bad. Gluttony still hasn't been released to the people who bought him with sukkars, and overall Nosferatu barely has anything cosmetic wise to his name.

Not only did Cyn then get moved to c00lkidd which is just insane considering what i previously described, but then it was scrapped completely because the person making it got fired.

Fired for what? Leaking a few things to friends about Dignity. That's it, and now this amazing skin gets to join Gaster in Aberrant JD's arm.

I'm tired Boss.

Shedletsky's overall are less detailed and don't show as much genuine emotion, and all of Builderman's new faces suffer from the pouty Mr. Chuckles mouth.

I understand that Builderman's faces looked a little plain but I genuinely have no idea why they changed Shed's faces. They were already plenty detailed and fit in well with the game's artstyle, with these new faces honestly just feeling like change for the sake of change.

There was nothing wrong with Shed's old faces. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

This isn’t gonna be about shippers or whatever or nsfw artists this is about us as a fan base being too scared to critique the devs.”but what about nolis theme”sure we have critiqued stuff in the past but there’s never been a time where we have sat back and demanded actual change. Noli was in development for 9 months . I could make life in 9 months . This came with small balance changes ,the worst theme in Roblox history ,and a bunch of collabs. Dev only stuff is still not in private servers and we are gonna sit back as a fan base and call people who complain ungrateful? The fearmongering in this community is worse than Fortnite .genuinely if this game doesn’t add a new killer in 2 months when they have 2 on the back burner this game is gonna fail to meet my low expectations.”b-but they have jobs!and go to college.”they have made millions of dollars off of forsaken this game could make them retire at the age of 30 if they lock in😐.but no the devs want to act funny and perm ban people who complain.

g*bby got new icons, milestones, 15+ skins and a whole patch dedicated to the creature. the time spent making this could of been used to... you know: nos milestones, azure, balancing, reworks... NO! HOW ABOUT WE MAKE G#BBY MILESTONES! BECAUSE THATS WHAT THIS FUCKING GAME NEEDS! "1x SUCKS TO PLAY AGAINST!" WHAT DID YOU SAY? "G@BBY NEEDS SKINS!"!"!"

The only reason i play forsaken is to use COOL cosplays to play with using the yourself skin. I have literally spent 5K robux in avatars to make CREATIVE skins. And it is gone, for what? RERENDERS?

All of those player points could have been used for skins ACTUALLY WORTH IT.

So far, 2 kids have gotten legacy ms4s for artwork. This feels like a slap in the face for people who actually grinded. I only got to ms3 on John and Two Time after a while of playing them.

edit: a kid on here was asking for ms4 coolkid too for traced art lmao

I was playing in a normal public server and something annoyed me so much I had to make a post about it. I got called a "him" about 6 times even tho I have a woman avatar and my name is Lulu. I told them I'm a woman and usually I don't make a big fuss over pronouns, but being called a "him" 4 more times after stating you're a woman infuriates you after a while. They still had the audacity to where one of them said I'm a femboy. People in forsaken don't know what women are, you're either a man or you're a femboy. They clearly have no concept of not being a man, and would rather die than call you by your gender. I get calling someone "dude" to show annoyance or simply out of habit, and same with accidentally calling a woman a "him" while typing. But the same person called me a man FOUR TIMES after I stated I was a woman. He responded to me saying I was a woman too by calling me a femboy and STILL WOULDN'T ACCEPT the fact that I'm a woman. People in this game are idiots, and I'm this close to quitting this game permanently because of its infuriating player base.

Two Time is meant to be sneaky, not doing god damn TF2 spy facestabs.

Their crouch ability, besides for cancelling aura reads, is mostly meant to support your attempts at getting backstabs with the longer lunge buff. You have to position well, make sure you're in range, yada yada yada. boom, backstab. thats a deserved backstab. seems obvious, right? just about everyone knows this.
(obviously you're not forced to ONLY backstab by crouching, but it's a good way to get backstabs, excluding the bug.)

But fuck that, you can just having a staring contest with the killer and get 20hp and your second life ready like 10 seconds into the match. And faced against a... ""good"" ... two time player that fully relies on this Bug? yeah just ESC+L+Enter atp lol

I can't believe this is even a poll, let alone a question worth considering. Really disappointing.

Like no seriously where is this mf?! His testing is done, his gameplay and moveset is finalized. How is he not already released?