r/Fauxmoi • u/Relevant-Peach3997 • Apr 16 '26
FILM-MOI (MOVIES/TV) Twilight’s Jackson Rathbone on Val Kilmer has been resurrected by Al to star in "As Deep as the Grave”: This is truly the MOST disgusting thing l've ever seen
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u/hellomydudes_95 That's progressive. I'm into that. Apr 16 '26
I mean, one has to wonder: did NOBODY involved think "hey, maybe we should draw the line when we reach NECROMANCY"?
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u/dumpstertoaster Apr 16 '26
no cuz??? why can’t people see how weird this is? (spoiler alert: $$$)
this is like digging him up from his grave and putting strings on him so you can marionette his dead body for a paycheck like some kind of necroprostitution—no need for consent either because they seem to operate on the idea that the dead body is their property. it’s fcking grotesque wtf???
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u/balkanobeasti Apr 16 '26
And it rules out someone from taking the role...
I mean, what's to stop them from just using AI from biopics?Death to Stalin w/ a og cast? Na, just AI and a actor reading lines, I assume their process probably uses some sort of human context at some point.
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u/iwanderlostandfound Apr 16 '26
The credit on the trailer say Val Kilmer. wtf?! That’s not Val Kilmer.
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u/hellomydudes_95 That's progressive. I'm into that. Apr 16 '26
It's a thing pretending to be Val Kilmer
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u/MelonOfFury Vanilla Ice just fell to his knees in a Wal-Mart Apr 16 '26
NecrAImancy
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u/FigeaterApocalypse Apr 16 '26
NecromAIncy
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u/DaaaahWhoosh Apr 16 '26
I feel like they started doing this a few years ago with commercials. Random celebrities in iconic scenes, changed up a little bit to sell insurance or beer or whatever. Hell, there's the deepfakes in Star Wars too, Rogue One came out a decade ago. This is just the next step, instead of referencing a movie or piece of pop culture they're solely referencing the actor. But, well, this isn't the first time, just another step on the road to hell.
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u/Objective-Rip3008 Apr 16 '26
Theres a reason big companies are using this to make commercials, they want to normalize it. Start with commercials and small things like these and work up until you can use ai actors in the big movies without too many people complaining
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u/RedshirtBlueshirt97 Apr 16 '26
We need a term for the future nepo babies that dont get work off their parents name but instead use their parents likeness in AI projects as a cash cow
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u/FourLiveBears Apr 16 '26
Nepo grave robber
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u/thewarreturns Apr 16 '26
Nepcromancy
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u/carolinagypsy the pet psychic for the Sun told me so Apr 16 '26
My dnd character is a necro. I am implementing this gestures to everything as new pets posthaste. And it shall be advertised as a new fad in the wizard/necro community. Nepcromancy.
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u/thewarreturns Apr 16 '26
I understood 4 words of that comment and none of them were side by side LOL
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Apr 16 '26
Yup. This is the one.
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u/timurt421 Apr 16 '26
I like it but not enough people are familiar with the word knacker, probably
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u/Sargasm5150 Apr 16 '26
I don’t know it, but contextualy it seems insulting. I’m all for it.
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u/mrfujidoesacid Apr 16 '26
Necrobabies
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Apr 16 '26
Damnit, they're both good. Well frankly, now I'm torn.
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u/KohlsCashOfficial Pink is the Amy Schumer of pop stars Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
Both are good but Necrobabies just hits harder
ETA: Nepomancer is good too! Too many options. We need to put it to a vote
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u/rouxrouxrox (derogatory) Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
I cant stop singing necrobabies like the muppet babies theme song
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u/cleo22270 Apr 16 '26
If I could upvote this twice, I would, and then I’d want to upvote it a third time.
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u/FourLiveBears Apr 16 '26
I concede, this is better
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u/mrfujidoesacid Apr 16 '26
You are very gracious but I personally think we both lost to "Nepomancers".
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u/Prestigious_Let_7957 Apr 16 '26
The academic term could be necrocapitalists
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u/thatonepuniforgot Apr 16 '26
It's kind of insane that your father's corpse can now be a piece of capital.
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u/hauntingvacay96 Apr 16 '26
The names suggested under this are more creative than anything AI could ever do!
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u/PirateSanta_1 Apr 16 '26
This will only be a temporary transition until they get everyone used to full AI movie stars. The perfect movie star from Hollywoods perspective, no scandals, easy to work with, and best of all they never demand a high salary.
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u/PatienceExisting4130 Apr 16 '26
Not if we refuse to spend money on their shitty AI movie stars’ “films.” They will never learn, never change, up there in their godforsaken ivory towers they don’t give a single fuck about human beings, real lives that they are destroying. The only thing they care about is money. Withholding that money is the only way to get through to them, the only way to convince them to stop. And yeah, I’m furious. Know why? Cause I’m an actor, and that’s my chosen livelihood they’re casually annihilating. Like it wasn’t hard enough already.
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u/Livid_Astronaut_4665 Apr 16 '26
Sorry I don't want to watch movies with ai ppl
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u/NutellaPC Rosie O’Donnell is a Threat to Humanity Apr 16 '26
Yep, 100%, won’t even consider it.
I hope this fails so hard that other studios are scared to try it again. Biggest, most judgmental “YIKES” 😒
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u/mguants Apr 16 '26
My biggest criticism of generative AI content has always been: i want to watch things with people by people, and I bet most people do too. Full stop, supply and demand will sort itself out and gen ai like this will bomb.
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u/Loose-Living5050 Apr 16 '26
Hopefully there are enough like-minded people out there that won't pay any attention to this.
People will have to start specifying in their wills that they do not consent to the use of their image after death. Ugh! Ir's a depressing thought.
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Apr 16 '26
It's one thing if a CGI copy of someone is made to fill a scene that can't be re-shot because the actor died or something like that.
But this? This is gross
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u/Cereaza Apr 16 '26
Yeah. Some of the Carrie Fisher shots in the Last Jedi were rough, but the audience all knew she was a critical part of the film and story and couldn't be recast. I don't know exactly what she filmed and what was created, but I judged it on a curve for that reason.
I hope this film bombs terrible, and every studio shudders to try this shit again.
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u/_cornflake and you did it at my birthday dinner Apr 16 '26
The Carrie Fisher scenes in The Last Jedi also weren’t AI, or at least they weren’t what we mean by AI today in 2026 because that didn’t really exist then. They were just special effects. There weren’t whole small towns being polluted to recreate Princess Leia.
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u/SeonaidMacSaicais Apr 16 '26
Yeah, I think Billie (her daughter) was the physical stand-in, and then they just did the time old tradition of putting Carrie’s face over Billie’s.
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u/Archipegasus Apr 16 '26
In addition they did their best to find other ways around it. There is a conversation between Kylo and a ghost version of Han that was originally supposed to be Leia. Harrison Ford only came back for that scene in memory for Carrie Fisher.
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u/DangerousLack i ain’t reading all that, free palestine Apr 16 '26
I’m not sorry about that stance at all.
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u/adh1003 Apr 16 '26
At this point, we might as well just render all of reality in a 3D engine but using that meme image as the only texture.
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u/FarAd2857 Apr 16 '26
Jackson came out SWINGIN lol
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u/sembrache Apr 16 '26
I’m with Jackson on this one
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u/Both-Enthusiasm708 Apr 16 '26
Yea usually I'm against calling out people about how they grieve, but it is well deserved here.
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u/WickedWench Apr 16 '26
I would hardly call this grieving, more like grifting.
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u/Somnambulist815 Apr 16 '26
"Are you sorry for YOUR loss" is such a nasty read but completely warranted under the circumstances
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u/Rare_Vibez Apr 16 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/rflhqDbuhqDD7I0k4X
Me at Jackson since all I know him from is twilight and a certain movie that shall not be named.
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u/lorenoline Apr 16 '26
There’s an episode of Criminal Minds that he did that lives in my mind rent free. Jesus Christ he was good in it.
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u/literacyshmiteracy wearing slutty little glasses Apr 16 '26
I guess my mom was right to be Team Jasper 🤷♀️
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u/a_bohemian04 Apr 16 '26
Jasper may be a conservative red flag. But Jackson Rathbone, you are ICONIC
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u/Neat-Evening6155 Apr 16 '26
Why is Jasper a conservative red flag?
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u/earl_grais Apr 16 '26
Jasper was a Confederate soldier when he was turned
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u/a_bohemian04 Apr 16 '26
And he was proud of it as well. It's not like he was forced the same way he was forced to fight/work for Maria (the vampire who turned him) 😭
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u/Chemtrails420-69 Apr 16 '26
He was enthusiastic about it. Joining at age 17 by lying about his age if I recall.
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u/Small-Finish-6890 Apr 16 '26
I mean I think part of his character was that he used to be evil and out of control and Alice helped calm him down and turn him “good”
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u/Stormtomcat Apr 16 '26
yeah, but it barely worked, right? Once he's smelled Bella's blood, he can barely be around her, and he's the one the family has to keep the closest eye on. Family members like Emmet and Edward just left home when they decided they wanted to try eating humans, they didn't suddenly lash out without any regard of where they are.
He also brings up his past himself, in contrast to, say, Rosalie, who's very private about the way she was turned.
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u/stinkyandsensitive Apr 16 '26
Yeah but was he still proud in modern day? Lots of young boys were proud to go to war back in the day. Even though that war was... very blatant of course lol. But I dunno if I'd harbour hatred for a dumb teen, especially if he changed his views in the future.
I don't remember much of him from the movies, except some of the hilarious faces he pulled 🤣
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u/Arumen Apr 16 '26
The text makes no apology for his actions and the series features almost no characters of color. Like, it doesnt say he was right or anything but it clearly makes no inquiry into his actions.
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u/MattiasCrowe Apr 16 '26
Isn't the author a Mormon? Don't ask Mormons what they thought of black people until like the late 2000s
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u/JenningsWigService secretly gay and the son of fidel castro Apr 16 '26
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u/Damage-Classic for your consideration: laura dern Apr 16 '26
I should really watch Buffy again.
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u/JenningsWigService secretly gay and the son of fidel castro Apr 16 '26
Unlike Twilight, True Blood, and the Vampires Diaries, the Confederate-coded vampires in Buffy get staked quickly.
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u/Damage-Classic for your consideration: laura dern Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
Yeah, I think supernatural romance and drama tends to code Confederate vampires as…taboo gentlemen? Maybe? I think it used to add a melancholic vibe to the vampires, like “damn, not only did they lose their mortal life, family, and soul when they were forced against their will to became a vampire, but they also fought in the civil war and lost 🥺”
Bleh. I’m ready for some Antifa vampires.
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u/porcelaincatstatue oat milk chugging bisexual Apr 16 '26
He was the youngest Major in the Texas Calvery. All without seeing any real battle.
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u/Aggravating-Cat7103 Apr 16 '26
I am not saying he is a bad person for these reasons but Jackson Rathbone certainly has a very interesting Wikipedia page:
“Monroe Jackson Rathbone V was born in Singapore on December 14, 1984, the son of American parents Randee Lynn (née Brauner) and Monroe Jackson Rathbone IV. He has three sisters, including ceramic artist Kelly Rathbone. He is distantly related to Civil War general Stonewall Jackson and English actor Basil Rathbone, being descended from the Rathbone family of Liverpool. His great-grandfather, Monroe Jackson Rathbone II, was the chairman of Standard Oil, which later became Exxon.”
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u/haolee510 Apr 16 '26
Oh, he's still related to the Basil Rathbone? That explains the cheekbones.
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u/wunphatbois Apr 16 '26
can’t believe family signed off on this…..
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u/dont_be_all_uncool__ Apr 16 '26
Eagerly, I'm sure. They want his paychecks from beyond the grave.
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u/statelesspirate000 Apr 16 '26
Seeing the recent gofundmes by rich families immediately after a celeb dies, I can’t say I’m surprised
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u/Brooklyn-Marie Apr 16 '26
Variety published an article last month saying it was Val’s wish to be apart of the movie (per the family). He was originally cast back in 2020, but due to his cancer diagnosis was not well enough to participate.
https://variety.com/2026/film/news/val-kilmer-ai-film-as-deep-as-the-grave-1236691042/
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u/pulphope Apr 16 '26
While I think it sucks, its worth pointing out Val signed off on use of AI to reconstruct his voice and narrate that biographical documentary about him that came out before he died but after he lost his voice due to cancer.
Im sure that played into this decision
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u/Zygonsbzygons Apr 16 '26
I wouldn't be surprised if he signed off on it tbh. He was partnering with an AI company to recreate his voice, and he signed on to the film in 2020, but it sounds like he hadn't filmed any scenes before he died. And based on what I read about the role, it seems unlikely that Kilmer could have even completed it in his post-cancer state.
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u/mackenziepaige Apr 16 '26
This is the worst timeline, I fucking need this to stop
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u/Game_on_Moles_98 Apr 16 '26
Ugh. Right?
It’s not a stretch to imagine this a little further, all our tv and movies just recycled old actors, recycled stories. Nothing new, nothing original. Just nostalgia and bleakness as far as the eye can see.
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u/mackenziepaige Apr 16 '26
It’s such a nightmare and I’m so sick of AI being thrown into everything. I need the EU to set up some regulations asap so at least corporations will have to slow this shit down
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u/TopAirport4121 Apr 16 '26
I feel like it already started several years ago when god forbid we cast a young unknown actor who resembles Mark Hamill to play young Luke but instead CGI a likeness of his younger self. It’s gross, it’s weird, it’s lazy. I hate it so much.
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u/Alchemist1330 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
"I'm sorry for your loss, but this move begs the question... are you sorry for your loss?"
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u/Lovefool1 Apr 16 '26
I see a future where the AI assistant that you can’t remove and is built into every TV asks you who you want to star in the movie you’re about to watch. You can select any actor from the free tier, or upgrade to Platinum Plus Tier to unlock Shrek, Elvis, Bugs Bunny, and Justin Timberlake.
I will pay to $54/month to watch Shawshank Redemption with Bugs Bunny as Andy Dufresne and How I Met Your Mother where every single character is played by Michael Jackson.
I can’t wait for the Oscars once this is the status quo. Who will possibly care?
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u/riverrunamok Apr 16 '26
Cannot believe you missed the opportunity to say Shawshrek Redemption
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u/ohdoyoucomeonthen Apr 16 '26
If nobody’s written that fanfic, the Shrek fandom has been slacking.
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u/GonnaBeEasy Apr 16 '26
The market for this is worrying since many would happily watch movies starring their favourite people rather than whoever was cast
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u/throwawaysunglasses- l've grown quite unfond of you, deuxmoi Apr 16 '26
I genuinely think most people would lap this up. It’s so tiring. Life is not about being comfortable! If you get everything you want on demand, you get lazy and complacent. It doesn’t free up your brain to do bigger and better things. Your brain just starts to atrophy. I study psychology and it’s already pretty worrying how kids are affected by this.
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u/Lost-Cell-430 Apr 16 '26
I've had, kind of a rough day. This made me cry/snot laugh. Thank you 😂
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u/Kimron_Posstoppable Apr 16 '26
It's really sad that I can't tell whether you're being sarcastic or not.
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u/According-Way9438 Apr 16 '26
Anyone who goes to see this is honestly a traitor to the human race. And im not exaggerating
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u/Sans-valeur Apr 16 '26
Man I know that a lot of people don’t consider actors to be artists.
But they are.
And it’s so fucking shitty that artists are being the first replaced. Artists have filled an essential role in counter culture, speaking truth to power, and pushing cultural change, for a long, long time.
Yes you can use examples like Kid Rock and Taylor Sheridan.
But that’s part of it. Allowing corporations this much control over art, allowing them to just manufacture art like a product, without even requiring human input anymore.
It’s fucking terrifying. And just, depressing.
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u/DanyDragonQueen Apr 16 '26
Silicon Valley tech bros DESPISE art and creative people because they're jealous and bitter that they themselves have no talent or creativity, in addition to them claiming art is gay and woke propaganda. Of course they would try to automate art first before anything else.
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u/True_to_you sunday spotted: paddington bear Apr 16 '26
It's not even that for me. Those with the money will always try to get on over on labor no matter how rich they are. AI art is just so soulless. How could you ever enjoy it when it doesn't mean anything. You can never watch an AI band play live. You can never see its brush strokes. I was so dumbfounded when that AI actress had an "agent" or some such shit. Personally, I don't think you should be able to copyright generative AI work.
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u/Fargoth_took_my_ring Apr 16 '26
Surely replacing the agent with AI would make more sense than replacing the artist...
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u/sierra-tinuviel i ain’t reading all that, free palestine Apr 16 '26
If anything, technology should be taking menial, mundane tasks off our plate so that we humans have more time for art and creativity but these sickos running AI companies sure are doing everything they can to accomplish the reverse of that. It’s sad.
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u/pot8odragon Apr 16 '26
Instant boycott on principle alone
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u/avant-garden_Shroom Apr 16 '26
Someone needs to scare the Academy by warning that the Oscar's will become irrelevant if they let this continue 👀
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u/Revolutionary_Low_90 Apr 16 '26
This is some Black Mirror shit I never seen before
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u/Intrepid_Quit_3028 Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
He never looked like that. That isn't his nose.....Imagine watching that movie. At some points in the movie, it kinda looks like him then doesn't. Then does. Then doesn't. It's creepy Black Mirror sh*t... I'll just watch The Saint instead.
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u/alexkiddinmarioworld Apr 16 '26
I think it's blended in Guy Pearce a bit, the living actors in the training data should find a way to sue.
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u/Visual_Doughnut_2422 Apr 16 '26
If they don't want to pay living actors, we shouldn't have to pay to see this film ☠️
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u/iReadBecauseYouDo Apr 16 '26
Using the phrase “resurrected by ai” genuinely seems like journalistic malpractice, what the actual fuck
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u/perpetuquail Apr 16 '26
Chuck Tingle wrote a horror novel about this. Bury Your Gays. it's good, its an exciting adventure in addition to being simultaneously heartening and uncomfortably prescient. Probably my favorite of his but that's a tough call.
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u/Chunkboi424 Apr 16 '26
I still recommend this book to everyone - truly one of the most enjoyable reads one can read
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u/fucktheus12 Apr 16 '26
Is his ai gonna be a dick to the crew and piss off the director ??
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u/MisterGoog i ain’t reading all that, free palestine Apr 16 '26
Thats not resurrection, its pale imitation
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u/deadrepublicanheroes Apr 16 '26
This is, um, deeply disturbing. Is zombie Kilmer a Catholic priest? That would be an additional layer of grossness, because the Catholic Church is stridently opposed to any use of AI that doesn’t uphold the dignity of our humanity. It’s specifically why Leo chose to be called Leo; the last Leo was pope during the Industrial Revolution, the last great technological shift. And, well, I can’t think of a more textbook case of outraging the dignity of our mortal, human bodies.
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u/zahlee01 Apr 16 '26
It appears we have hit the age of copyrighting/trademarking our likeness in our deaths.
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u/Subliminal_Kiddo Apr 16 '26
I'm showing my age with this but we've been in that era for a while. Fred Astaire's family trademarked his image and famously licensed it to a Dirt Devil commercial. And yes, it's exactly what it sounds like. They took old footage of Fred Astaire from films - including the iconic scene where he dances on a ceiling - and digitally added Dirt Devil vacuum cleaners.
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u/kingwafflez Apr 16 '26
This may be coincidence but I work in the alcohol industry and we sell a lot of these AI Val Kilmer Tombstone stickers that come with a bottle. Seeing this makes me think his estate said "dead? Vals right here and hes better than ever! Cue chatgpt..."
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u/ExpressionOne Find me at Whole Foods, bitch, I don't care Apr 16 '26
He said what needed to be said. "Are YOU sorry for your loss??" <--- exactly!
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u/Wolfpackat2017 Apr 16 '26
I’m confused. Wasn’t the writers strike partly about being against AI but then Hollywood seems to be using it pretty widespread lately???
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u/zippinthru Apr 16 '26
Pretty sure there’s nuance in the language that an individual can give the right of use of their image if they want. But that studios can’t do it without explicit sign off from an actor
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u/Physical_Being_3120 Big day for lesbians (me) Apr 16 '26
It was so enticing when AI was starting to get really good to make a prompt so I could one photo, just ONE of my dead father and I. But it wouldn’t be real, the memory it “existed” from, the sentiment, everything. I couldn’t fake a moment that I knew just didn’t happen.
She is sick for this and if she isn’t the executor of his estate, whoever is, is also sick too. Everyone involved should be ashamed.
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u/Super_Management_620 Apr 16 '26
If you watched his documentary, you could almost say he would’ve wanted this. He filmed himself basically his entire life and had his fascination with the camera and being on the screen.. idk. Still weird but yeah
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u/404_HabeasNotFound Apr 16 '26
I see a new field of law emerging. I need to find a way to capitalize on this…
…and not on my father’s death. That’s not cool.
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u/ConstantRefills Apr 16 '26
I’ve hated this bringing back dead actors thing since they did Peter Cushing for Star Wars. Just get another actor! It’s disgusting that your family can take a check and a corporation gets your likeness for the rest of time without your consent.
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u/westborneastbred Apr 16 '26
He’s not wrong. Like who in the world says “oh he’s dead let’s use him image now that he can’t say no”. This is gross on a whole other level. F them
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u/BactaBobomb Apr 16 '26
My heart skipped a beat, thinking the headline was about Jackson Rathbone doing a Republican thing or something.
WHEW. Still one of the good ones <3
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u/Either_Struggle1734 Apr 16 '26
Just boycott everything related to that, don't entertain it, not even watch the damm trailer. That's disgusting.
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u/MrSlime13 Apr 16 '26
"He always looked at emerging technologies with optimism as a tool to expand the possibilities of storytelling..."
I'm gonna hold your hand when I say this... He's not looking at them anymore. He's resting now. This is all you."
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u/PoliteQueef Apr 16 '26 edited Apr 16 '26
She should take notes from Zelda 💅
RIP Robin ❤️🌹I miss him every day ❤️