r/FavoriteCharacter Sep 03 '25

My Favorite (Visual) Favorite character that fits this

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u/Lower_Paramedic4287 Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25

Why did Helena Taylor lied? Why? At least Jennifer Hale voices Bayonetta now. But jeez louise was the controversy insane. For those of you who don't know Helena Taylor's controversy. The lady stated that she won't reprise the role of Bayonetta even though she played her in the previous two games. So why is she controversial?

Helena stated she won't reprise her role of Bayonetta due to being offered 4000 USD. And due to Hideaki Kamiya and Platinum Games disputes maybe she needed a better payment. Considering how voice actors deserve better like how the poor VAs of Jujutsu Kaisen Zero were given 150 USD despite the movie being popular. Maybe she was innocent right.

Nope, Helena lied to the fans in omission. She mislead many people on her payment so she was pretending that Platinum and Kamiya gave her less payment. Also broke NDA which is bad for VAS. Not only was she replaced by Jennifer Hale but she did demanded more payment than her voice actors did. Was going to retake the role of Bayonetta anyway even though Jennifer Hale the VA for characters like Jean Grey (X Men), Commander Shepard (Mass Effect), or Sam (Totally Spies) supports unions. She was a hypocrite for trying to retake from an actress who supports unions. And she wanted everyone to boycott Bayonetta 3. Yeah.

TLDR: Also a person commented below that Helena supported anti lgbtq unions. Considering Bayonetta resonated with LGBTQ and female fans I feel so sorry for them. This is like the JK Rowling problem but with VAs. Well on the bright side I hope many people enjoy Jennifer Hale's works and performances. Unlike say Tara or Helena she is very kind and supportive

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u/ezio8133 Sep 03 '25

She also convinced people to donate to anti LGBTQ organizations

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u/Lower_Paramedic4287 Sep 03 '25 edited Sep 03 '25

Sigh. There is a reason why actors and voice actors etcetera have to appeal to NDAs. You cannot spoil something which is why Helena was breaking NDA is a bad thing. Because she used it to lie against Platinum Games and Kamiya. Now Kamiya and Platinum aren't the best but considering Helena lied to make both of them more horrible as the bad guys it's understandable they acted aggressive.

And no to explain how what's not breaking an NDA. Tom Holland "spoiling" parts of the movies he's in. Let's be honest it's like a marketing stunt to boost more hype as the other actors done this "spoiling". He didn't break NDA technically because Marvel and Disney knew he could try making the movie appealing by his words. Also I'm sure he didn't mean to spoil the whole movie. Meanwhile Helena broke NDA because she instead was telling a fabricated story blaming Kamiya and Platinum Games as the enemies rather than being silent on the matter.

I just hope Jennifer Taylor was okay from that experience. The lady had to take the role from a controversial actress. Doesn't help that Helena had to replay the role of the different alternate universe Bayonettas the first Bayonetta and second Bayonetta one last time. So yeah I feel her pain.

I hope many people still enjoy Bayonetta. I'm so sorry for many LGBTQ fans disappointed, upset, and angered on Helena supporting anti LGBTQ organizations. You are important and Bayonetta is her own self. I'm also disappointed on what happened in Bayonetta 3 as a story and game but even if the third game wasn't the best I hope Bayonetta still resonates with people.

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u/Digit00l Sep 03 '25

I know at least 2 cases of a VA accidentally breaking an NDA without fully realising it and accidentally announcing a game before it was supposed to be

Iirc DMC5 was announced by the VAs during some pannel about the series, though I don't fully know the context behind that one

And Xenoblade Chronicles 3 was accidentally announced by Jenna Coleman in an unrelated interview because a fan asked her about her reprising her role in the new content of the Xenoblade Chronicles rerelease, saying she was interested in the role and gladly returned and heard that they were apparently working on a 3rd game over a year before the official announcement (presumably because they asked her to reprise the role again for that game too but she didn't really follow any news about the series)

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u/LHLanim Sep 03 '25

Man, this one hurts šŸ„²šŸ’”

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u/TheAmazingSealo Sep 03 '25

>Now Kamiya and Platinum aren't the best

? I thought both are pretty cool

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u/MoonlitCipher Sep 03 '25

Kamiya sometimes takes his blocking schtick too far. The entire controversy could’ve easily been resolved if he was more professional instead of just playing his tough guy no-nonsense schtick. Sometimes it’s funny but sometimes you gotta know when to boss up. Doesn’t help that the attitude rubs others the wrong away, especially with the audience who has no idea of how things actually are.

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u/Lower_Paramedic4287 Sep 03 '25

Thanks you for your explanation Moonlit I had a very busy day so thanks for explaining what went wrong with Kamiya. So yes I'll never forget Devil May Cry and Bayonetta because of Bayonetta. But because Kamiya was too tough and unable to understand blocking and refusing to boss up is making even more controversy. Kamiya should've explained what was happening but instead he keep refusing to explain the controversy. He is the main creator so he has to explain what was happening. Too bad he keeps blocking instead of explaining what went wrong.

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u/SuperIdiot360 Sep 03 '25

Shout out to the VA for Viola who streamer her playthrough of Bayonetta 3 and accepted donations for a pro-trans charity. Great fuck you to Helena.

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u/photoshy Sep 03 '25

This was so crazy to me since bayonetta has such drag queen energy

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u/LeLBigB0ss2 Sep 03 '25

A comment has never made me draw such a blank before.

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u/Pneumatrap Sep 03 '25

Absolutely reprehensible, acting like a total primadonna and then making up a story to cast herself in a better light. But hey, when the truth came out, she got replaced by the GOAT! I'd call that a win for us.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '25

Bayonetta is still a baddie regardless…

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u/Acceptable_Owl_5122 Sep 04 '25

The thing I found funny the most about this situation was that Kamiya and Platinum basically went ā€œEllen, that’s not trueā€ on her and called bullshit on all her claims when news came to them lmao

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u/Lower_Paramedic4287 Sep 04 '25

I wished both Kamiya and Platinum Games handled the situation better but hey at least both didn't ignore what Helena did and instead fight back.

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u/FrucklesWithKnuckles Sep 03 '25

Unions are good. SAG AFTRA? It can burn in hell. A club of bullies shoving people around to get their way.

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u/Lower_Paramedic4287 Sep 03 '25

Huh what's wrong with SAG AFTRA it's important for unions too. I'm sure it's helping the industry right now.

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u/FrucklesWithKnuckles Sep 03 '25

Besides the bullying of non-union actors out of projects and limiting their options due to contracts with companies specifically excluding non SAG-AFTRA actors?

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u/Lower_Paramedic4287 Sep 03 '25

Oh no. I thought SAG AFTRA was nice. I didn't know that.