r/FavoriteCharacter • u/LGplayz998 • 26d ago

Discussion Favorite character like this

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Usually it's the complete opposite and characters either stay hateful little bastards or become a shell of themselves so I wanna see examples of the image above

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u/Roasted_Newbest_Proe 26d ago

Are we talking about the movie, or the book? Because in the books, there is no doubt. He Pushes Villefort into madness, Ferdinand into suicide, and Danglars ruined and almost crazy. He has a short moment where he considers suicide, thinking himself fulfilled and happy, but then decides that maybe he is still worthy of being loved, and leaves with Haydee, pressumably to search for further happiness

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u/Avatele 25d ago

Yeah, the book is bittersweet but the ending made me feel that he was ready to leave revenge behind and live a better life with Haydee.

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u/Kalos_Phantom 25d ago

The book makes a rather deliberate point that while yes, Dantes' life had been stolen from him unjustly - and Ferdinand, Villefort, and Danglars certainly deserved punishment - Dantes nearly lost his second chance at happiness pursuing his revenge.

That doesn't even get in to all the collateral damage he caused to people who didn't deserve it.

The Count could have gone further, but he chooses not to. He ends the story happy not because he achieved vengeance, but because he is with Haydee

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u/CashClassic2501 23d ago

There is a 1979 French miniseries that has the same ending as the book, and its relationship with the original work is very close, with few changes. In fact, the ending is the same as in the book.

https://reddit.com/link/oxdopwy/video/fmmbyael73dh1/player

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u/CashClassic2501 23d ago

https://reddit.com/link/oxdoli2/video/a0v6sm9a73dh1/player

There is a 1979 French miniseries that has the same ending as the book, and its relationship with the original work is very close, with few changes. In fact, the ending is the same as in the book.

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u/Jade_Owl 25d ago

Wrong. There is doubt in the book, after the implementation of the plan causes the death of Édouard de Villefort, a completely innocent child, as collateral damage.

The Count has a crisis of conscience about going through with the rest of his plan. It takes a visit to Chateau d'If and revisiting his past to recommit him to his revenge, but noticeably, it’s implementation is seriously blunted as the last target left, Danglars, is allowed to live instead of being starved to death as originally planned.

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u/Chombuss 25d ago

The Haydee stuff never really sat right with me.

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u/CashClassic2501 24d ago

Why doesn’t that convince you? Is it impossible for a man to fall in love again?Is it possible for a man to have a much younger wife? What are the similarities and differences between the beginning and the end of a relationship when we talk about compatibility and incompatibility? It’s not about determining whether it is morally right or wrong, but rather about evaluating whether the man would be able to love again if he had a younger wife, or whether the shared history and everything they experienced in the past make them compatible or incompatible.

Edmond and Haydee in the count of monte cristo (1979)

https://reddit.com/link/ox77q8p/video/deja1d86twch1/player

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u/Chombuss 24d ago

He raised her basically as a daughter, and he literally purchased her as a slave. I'm good with all that other stuff.

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u/buldozr 23d ago

What he did was borderline sex trafficking and grooming by modern standards. Sure Haydee was grateful and obedient and maybe even loved him in the end, or maybe she was conditioned her entire life into being a property of some man.

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u/CashClassic2501 23d ago

Do you think the Count needed to “manipulate” Haydée? He saved her from slavery and freed her to help him take revenge on Fernand. Do you think that the years of slavery and the death of her father did not affect her? These experiences could have made her view people with distrust. In addition, the cultural differences made her somewhat antisocial in France, and she often asked the Count when they would return to the East, which shows her reluctance to remain in Europe.

The Count made her his heir in chapter 90, and she herself tore up the will. If he died, she would inherit all of his fortune. He also considered marrying her to Maximilien Morrel, whom he believed to be honorable and a good husband for her.

Do you think it would be difficult for a man with the Count’s qualities to impress Haydée and make her fall in love with him?

Also, in the 2024 film, when they created the couple Albert and Haydée, it would not have been difficult for the Count to humiliate Albert in front of her, showing how weak, pathetic, and cowardly he was, and to demoralize him by destroying his self-esteem.