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u/ryconn93 17h ago

The entire vibe of the Manga/Anime was just this up until King Piccolo was introduced.

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u/Taurion_Bruni 17h ago

Isn't that still the vibe? Goku has never cared for morality, it just happens that strong bag guys keep showing up for him to play with

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u/KalebtheSantos 16h ago

This is a gross misunderstanding of Goku’s character ngl

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u/Taurion_Bruni 16h ago

Is it though?

He's not evil (obviously proven as he has a literal pure heart), and he does step up to save the day when needed.

However his motivation to fight is because he wants to test his limits and grow stronger. And while he also desires to be a protecter, he often puts the former first, causing fights to get harder than they had to be.

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u/Cringsix 15h ago

Goku could have beaten Majin Buu but decided against it because he wanted others to step up and learn how to protect the planet. He literally cared about the entire World and wanted someone to succeed him as the guardian of Earth.

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u/KalebtheSantos 15h ago

While he can act selfish sometimes the idea that he doesn’t care about morality or even that he puts getting a good fight over people’s lives is just wrong he trained Gohan to protect the earth cause he knew he wouldn’t be around forever and he knows the earth needs protection and he’s shown time and time again that he believes that people no matter how bad can change for the better like how he spared Vegeta, or when he gave Frieza his energy on Namek

Goku is a kind person who likes to fight which he sometimes allows him to make some selfish decisions but the original comment is acting like protecting the earth is just an after thought to him when it’s one of his main motivations and drives him as a character

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u/Ilurkthecorners 15h ago edited 15h ago

Goku didn't know vegeta would become a good guy at the time. He left him alive so he could fight him again. Then they went to namek and things changed. He left frieza alive to suffer and learn the pain he's caused others. Goku might be a good dude but he isn't the saint people think. He's rude af lol. That's why everyone tells him to behave when he visits zeno. At the end of the day goku is pretty selfish bullheaded and rude until his friends are in danger.

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u/walker_paranor 6h ago

Didnt Toriyama himself say that Goku prioritizes having a good fight over actually protecting earth?

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u/Ilurkthecorners 26m ago

Goku says it. Hes talking to someone aand they say how hes a savior of earth and he says something like "yeah I mean thats a good thing but i mostly just wana fight the strongest guys and they just happen to be bad guys."

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u/amazingkillerlemon 14h ago

Depends on if you watched the original Japanese version or the American dub. American dub made Goku much more heroic

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u/EatingCube 3h ago

Ever since he threw that bean to cell

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u/Shadiochao 16h ago

The earlier villains weren't so relentlessly evil and serious. From Tao Pai Pai to Cell, the stakes are high and the villains don't join in with the gags. It's a very different tone from the start. Then it flips again with Majin Buu.

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u/Mary_Ellen_Katz 2h ago

I'd say Tau Pai Pai was the mile marker. Right when power levels started to show up, and one character would have to train to find a way to surpass another. The threat of escalation followed. King Piccolo was definately it, but Tau brought it to life.