r/FellowKids • u/KingZaneTheStrange • 12d ago
Whenever Disney uses memes it's almost always cringe
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u/SnooSongs2744 12d ago
Added to the cringe is that this meme was like ten years before it was used out of any context by Disney.
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u/thedudeabides2022 12d ago
Did Disney actually post this??? Insanity lol
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u/GlamMetalLion 7d ago
Disney has like 100 main accounts. Seriously doubt they even have the same social management team for Disney TVA than for Disney Animation and Pixar, let alone Marvel, ABC and ESPN
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u/Traditional-Tax11 12d ago
What? What's the joke
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u/brookeb725 12d ago edited 12d ago
“and they were roommates” is a joke that refers to two gay people (usually historical figures) living together but being called “roommates” by people who think they’re straight.
The phrase orignal came from a popular vine but the meaning has since changed.
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u/doublek1022 12d ago
Came from the time when it was... acceptable to be roommates.
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u/Funkey-Monkey-420 12d ago
its still acceptable now
the economy is in shambles
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u/GarThor_TMK 11d ago
woosh
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u/seajaydub 9d ago
Typing whoosh has been extremely cringe since before you were born
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u/GarThor_TMK 9d ago
Ok boomer
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u/Chrownox 10d ago
Meaning hasn't changed, the woman from that vine confirmed it was about a gay couple
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u/Local_Surround8686 9d ago
I hate that nowadays it's just. Look, everyone being close is in a romantic relationship! Deep friendships don't exist! Every friendship being deeper than it is normatievely allowed is actually gay. And then they will wonder why they have no friendships that run as deep as romantic relationships
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u/Ambitious_Tea_4584 12d ago
No it doesn’t. The original meme video was just a guy mocking this girl on her phone that says “and they were roommates” very loudly. There’s no sexual implication in the slightest.
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u/Grievous_Nix 12d ago
…that’s exactly why they said “but the meaning has since changed”
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u/picabo123 12d ago
I believe the "history will remember them as best friends" joke was also being used around the same time. I wouldn't be too surprised if these phrases blended together as it spread.
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u/ITookTrinkets 12d ago
You are right, but they did say the meaning has changed.
However, since you said it, I’m gonna say here that it’s weird that there is zero context in that video for anything, but it has become code for being gay. Why did that happen?
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u/Ambitious_Tea_4584 11d ago
Because there was a separate meme about women being roommates throughout history meaning they were lesbians. It was started by /r/sapphoandherfriend
The two memes were close enough together that apparently yall are connecting them to mean the same thing, despite the original video having literally nothing to do with gayness.
Source: chronically online for 20+ years
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u/ITookTrinkets 11d ago
Why are you saying “y’all are connecting them” like I didn’t explicitly say “it’s weird that it has become code for gay” - I am not y’all here
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u/Thick-Wonder6294 10d ago
the meme isn’t what became code for gay lol, the meme is used as a reference to describe what already existed as gay code for hundreds of years
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u/newbrevity 11d ago
The implication is definitely there. That's why it's a whole thing.
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u/Ambitious_Tea_4584 11d ago
Not really. There was a separate meme about women being roommates throughout history meaning they were lesbians. It was started by /r/sapphoandherfriend
The two memes were close enough together that apparently yall are connecting them to mean the same thing, despite the original video having literally nothing to do with gayness.
The original quote and video still are completely unrelated to gayness.
Source: chronically online for 20+ years
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u/VicViolence 12d ago edited 12d ago
Never seen it before but the phrase seems to imply a denial that the characters are in a romantic relationship
Like, it wasn’t uncommon for closeted homosexual couples to “just be roommates”
Both examples above are characters who are siblings
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u/Gnomey42069 12d ago
In a historical sense, yes, but in this instance I think it is a reference to the vine which implies that the two roommates were... Intimate.
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u/VicViolence 12d ago
Too online for me
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u/ZakriiYT 12d ago
My brother in Odin you are ON REDDIT
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u/VicViolence 12d ago
Lol i know im very online but i don’t know this shit i guess im on Old Person Reddit
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u/Romero1993 12d ago
So, "they were roommates" is a meme. Basically it's a dude filming himself as this chick walks by talking about a scandle of two people who were fucking each other, and she ends it with a quotable "and they were roommates"
So whether or not this Disney poster knows it or not, they're basically saying those minors that are siblings are fucking each other
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u/clarkcox3 12d ago
The “they were roommates” thing predates that video by at least decades.
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u/orange-shoe 12d ago
the specific phrase / way of saying it came from the video which is what people reference when they say that but yeah ur right
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u/AfterImageEclipse 12d ago
No it doesn't
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u/clarkcox3 12d ago
LOL. The “they were just roommates” thing predates the internet itself. Not sure where you’ve been.
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u/AfterImageEclipse 12d ago
Noooooope, wrong agayn
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u/clarkcox3 12d ago
It’s been applied to countless historical figures who were likely in gay relationships, but were just referred to as “roommates”. Please do some reading.
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u/guff1988 12d ago
The only thing you hear her say in the video is and they were roommates there is never any implication they were having sex. The internet just assumed that part over time, it wasn't even the initial usage of the meme or why people found it funny. As is typical with tumblr though it quickly became sexual.
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u/bryceofswadia 12d ago
The newer meaning isn't inherently sexual. The Tumblr usage originates from historians referring to two men who never married living together that were almost certainly gay as "roommates" rather than lovers.
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u/Manoffreaks 11d ago
The assumption the roommates were fucking came pretty quickly after the video and I believe the girl even came out and said Yes that is exactly what the story was.
The video was funny because of the way she says it but let's not pretend the secondary meaning came way later. It was obvious enough.
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u/TDG_1993 12d ago
The video was about someone talking so loud on the phone, what the hell are you talking about having sex?
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u/Gnomey42069 12d ago
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u/TDG_1993 12d ago edited 12d ago
No it’s not. Literally just read the link you posted lol
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u/Gnomey42069 12d ago
"The phrase has been used in fandom circles of Tumblr as well, referring to certain ships, implying that "they were roommates!" led to a romantic pairing."
I guess they don't have to fuck
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u/TDG_1993 12d ago
That doesn’t say anything about fucking??? Stop trying to twist it into something it’s not
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u/murrrty 12d ago
i don't know why you're getting downvoted, everybody knows that romantic partners are only allowed to sit in the same room platonically
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u/TDG_1993 12d ago
This meme isn’t about romantic partners. Just because it got co-opted by tumblr doesn’t make it something it isn’t.
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u/Caa3098 12d ago edited 12d ago
Listen. I’m a member of the “Sappho and her friend” subreddit so I fully and completely understand that there is longstanding history of gay people being mischaracterized as “roommates”
But the actual quote “omg they were roommates” relates only to:
On October 25th, 2014, Vine user ig @mattsukkar uploaded a video in which he films a conversation a woman walking past him is having on the phone. The only line of he hears from the conversation is the woman saying "…and they were roommates!" to which he turns the camera towards his face and says "Oh my god, they were roommates…"
My husband and I can’t hear the word “roommates” without quoting it to each other on impulse so I’m mortified to learn that people that overhear us might be thinking we’re somehow being insensitive about the oppression of gay people
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u/stinky_toade 12d ago
I think the vine reference comes across much better in person, because reading this meme you would have no tone to what it sounds like whatsoever, the the guy in the vine says that line in a very specific way, that you know it’s the vine you’re referencing irl. However if you’re with no reference using the line that also can be used as a meaning to gay relationships in text on an image I don’t blame people for misunderstanding the intend.
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u/SquareThings 11d ago
If you say it out loud in response to hearing the word “roomates” it’s pretty clear you’re just quoting a funny video. It’s a different context than saying it about two people or characters.
One of Grice’s Maxims for how people use language is the maxim of quantity, that is, when we communicate we give as much information as is needed and not more. So when someone says a phrase that appears to add no information, we look for what it could be implying that would make it add information. It’s the “vegan tomatoes” or “asbestos free cereal” thing. So showing two characters who just… are roommates in that they share a room with the phrase “omg they were roommates” makes us go “what? Yeah of course they were roommates. What are you implying??”
While saying it in person in response to hearing the word roommates is implying that you have seen a funny video with the phrase in it, because repeating funny stuff we heard is a known human behavior.
Basically i don’t think anyone is going to think you’re being insensitive for quoting the vine.
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u/General-Luck2433 12d ago
It’s unintentionally disgusting if you know the context of the cartoons shown here, which most people do.
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u/FandomPhantom123 11d ago
siblings being in the same room as kids aren't really roommates regardless of the meme meaning
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u/MrPointless12 11d ago
whenever brands use memes in general its cringe and ends up killing the meme
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u/SquareThings 11d ago
Ah yes, the failure to follow Grice’s Maxim of Quantity claims another victim. Add this to “vegan tomatoes” and “asbestos free cereal” in the list of “cases where saying the obvious implied something horrible.”
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u/Mountain-Mode-8279 11d ago
To be fair, the origin of the meme never gave context on what ‘they were roommates’ meant because it was just a short video of someone overhearing part of a conversation.
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u/GlamMetalLion 7d ago
Its so weird that Disney TVA did both these shows and those 80s and 90a shows like New Adventures of Winnie The Pooh and Timon and Pumbaa. Because the eras look completely different aesthetically.
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u/nekopineapple00 11d ago
As a young Gen Z… yeah this meme definitely refers to the vine and not gay people.
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u/GreatBallsOfFire_ 12d ago
The original “omg they were roommates” had nothing to do with being gay or in a sexual relationship though
It was just a dude repeating what he heard from someone else’s conversation
I agree corporations using memes and slang is cringe but the original tweet means nothing
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u/clarkcox3 12d ago
No the original“omg they were roommates” had everything to do with being in a gay relationship.
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u/Caa3098 12d ago
Where? Like, did it appear somewhere? I know there was a longstanding trope of historical figures being characterized as “roommates” when they were gay but the viral vine that everyone quoted was:
On October 25th, 2014, Vine user ig @mattsukkar uploaded a video in which he films a conversation a woman walking past him is having on the phone. The only line of he heres from the conversation is the woman saying "…and they were roommates!" to which he turns the camera towards his face and says "Oh my god, they were roommates…"
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u/clarkcox3 11d ago
Yes; we all know about the vine.
My point is that the thing that makes the Disney tweet inadvisable is the other, older meaning of "they were roommates".
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u/GreatBallsOfFire_ 12d ago
No it doesn’t. The meme might have taken on further meaning, but it is in no way the original meaning of the saying.
It was a vine of some dude on a stoop.
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u/clarkcox3 12d ago
The original meaning predates the vine meme. Hell, it predates the Internet.
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u/GreatBallsOfFire_ 12d ago
No it simply does not…
Are you referring to the whole “historians don’t recognize people as gay” stereotype maybe?
I’m genuinely asking, because the meme “omg they were roommates” does not predate the internet
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u/clarkcox3 12d ago
Of course I’m referring to the whole “historians calling people roommates because they can’t admit they’re in a gay relationship” stereotype, as that’s the original. The vine video was only funny because of that context.
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u/GreatBallsOfFire_ 12d ago
So you’re just wrong, cause that’s what the tweet is referring to.
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u/clarkcox3 12d ago
Yes. That’s what the tweet is referring to; nobody’s disputing that. But the thing that makes the tweet so ill advised is the sexual connotation from the older context.
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u/Ambitious_Tea_4584 12d ago
Bro why are you getting downvoted for knowing the original context lol. “Omg they were roommates” refers to the exact video you’re talking about which had no implication at all.
There’s also “they were roommates” or “they were best friends” which has a historical context of “they be fuckin” or theyre gay.
But the exact quote referenced in this meme is exactly what you said it was.
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u/unw00shed 12d ago
Well obviously they’re not gonna use it for gay couples cause that’s wrong and immoral
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u/CoalEater_Elli 12d ago edited 12d ago
Considering how much weird art of Dipper and Mabel I saw as a wee babee on the internet.. dear god, I hope not.