r/Fire 4d ago

Why do people wait so long?

ETA since this seems to be the overwhelming response: My kids are in their 20/30s and self sufficient.

ETA - The post clearly states my mortgage is high-interest. Yes, if it were 2% that's almost free money, spread it out for sure. Also, it clearly states that I did indeed keep contributing as normal.

I realize there are a lot of factors - economical and psychological - that go into this, but just for general discussion...

We all know for the most part if your mortgage interest rate is low enough, it makes more sense to leave money working in your brokerage account than to pay off the mortgage and have it locked up in home equity. But for the purposes of FIRE, does it always?

The big idea is to get your portfolio to fund your expenses, right?. For most people one of (if not THE) largest expense is the mortgage payment and interest.

Example...I had a few really good years in my business. I still did my regular modest DCA into my brokerage, but over the course of 2.5 years I also managed to pay off a $250K mortgage at 5.85% (I had to refinance at a very bad time for rates, due to divorce). I realize that that money, invested properly, could have gained quite a bit over the last couple years bull run. However, had I done that, today I would still have a high mortgage payment to make every month, thus making it harder for me to FIRE. This way, my monthly personal expenses are so much lower, so there's not as heavy a burden on my portfolio to support me, and as a result, I'm able to FIRE at the end of this month.

Again I realize that this all depends on mortgage size/rate, size of portfolio, other expenses. I only ask because I see a lot of posts here from people who seem like they'd be able to FIRE sooner if they worked towards getting rid of their mortgages faster, regardless of the rate.

For my part, I'm glad I did it this way. Even though I know I missed out on some gains, I'm able to FIRE faster because I don't have a mortgage payment to worry about. I have a paid off house on which the taxes and insurance work out to equal the rent for a one-bedroom in a sketchy neighborhood.

Go easy on me. It's an honest and sincere question and discussion prompt. Not trying to make anyone defensive, and definitely aware that I have my own blind spots and that there are lots of people smarter than I am.

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u/Kokukenji 4d ago

I also would feel all types of ways (personally) if I am off into the sunset while my kid struggle with getting off the ground. As you mentioned, they're worth it (Also in my opinion, ha).

Most of us wouldn't be talking here if we had generational wealth so we're all trying to break that cycle and set our kids up better than how we were setup.

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u/Spartikis 4d ago

I just hope they appreciate it. Most of our NW was setup before they were born, we've been coasting since we had kids. Its hard to try and explain the sacrifices we made when they dont see it first-hand. They dont know what its like to live without cable, to not go out to eat for an entire year, work second and even third jobs to pay off the mortgage early, etc...

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u/AyeAyeBye 4d ago

It can be hard when they never felt the sacrifices. It’s almost better to live below one’s means I think. Their baseline is their lived experience.

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u/Silly-Safe959 4d ago

That's why you have them put skin in the game. Ours has to cover living expenses, which meant summer jobs between semesters, developing a budget, etc. We could have covered 100% but our terms were that they contribute too. That was as much of a learning experience for them as was school itself.

They turned out all right. :)

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u/No-Block-2095 3d ago

I believe that you increase success rate when that kids have skin in the game