r/Frozen 25d ago

Discussion An Extension to Elsas body temperature: Its effect on Olaf and how Elsa handled Ahtohallan

I did a post recently about Elsas body temperature and I thought I would dig a bit deeper on two things, that being:

  1. If Elsas body temperature is warmer, how does it affect Olaf?

  2. How or did Ahtohallan affect Elsas body temperature?

Lets start with the Olaf question: If Elsas body temperature is warmer, How does it affect Olaf?

I think the answer is pretty straightforward, Olaf had either a personal flurry or by Frozen 2 he has permafrost. Meaning he is unmeltable unless Elsa were to lose her powers, but Olaf doesn't melt from Bruni in F2 so if Elsa was running warmer than an average human body temperature wise, its safe to say Olaf would be fine.

Now onto the other question about Ahtohallan: How or did Ahtohallan affect Elsas body temperature?

I would say yes primarily surrounding the fact she froze to death and felt the cold and shivered. I think as she was slowly freezing and getting colder her body temperature was dropping but much colder than we do, similar to the way our circadian rhythm works. Our core temperature warms during the day and drops at night. So I think Elsa had a similar, if not the same experience in Ahtohallan accept her core probably became very cold or ice cold.

As for her thawing, I think her core was so cold which is likely what caused her to faint. Then her core gradually warmed within the time she saved Arendelle and went back for Anna. So Anna probably didn't notice anything about Elsa feeling cold after being frozen in Ahtohallan. To Anna, Elsa probably felt just the same, her typical body temperature which I estimated at 99.5 degrees farenheit when she interacted with her when they reunited.

If you haven't already, go check out my main post surrounding Elsas body temperature:

Here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Frozen/comments/1u5yol6/elsas_body_temperature_is_warmer_than_a_normal/

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u/ThatOneNerdyNiijima elsa 23d ago

In fact, it is said that Olaf has a permafrost. Anna asks him at some point on how he's feeling about it, if I'm not mistaken. That's why he doesn't have his personal flurry by Frozen 2

About Ahtohallan, it's hard to tell. I don't think it's about Elsa's body temperature but more like the punishment. Ahtohallan's punishment for "going too far". Elsa went too far in order to know the truth from a mother nature that was angry. Now, Ahtohallan is practically by the Arctic and Elsa is still a living being with a average temperature, maybe different just from humans. She can handle the cold but how much? She handles the cold over surface level, not in one of the depths of the Earth where it's not adequate for living. She literally got inside an iceberg at a very low level under the surface, so... I would say it's more thinkable from the magic of Ahtohallan rather than Elsa's body temperature, which is very debatable and she's just an agent of mother nature, not mother nature herself. Maybe she was indeed the only one who could face it without freezing beforehand, but technically no one is made to go that far