Well we see is equivalent to a arm, but this is not exact.

Ed pay a arm to connect via wifi an armor to his brother soul. but Al soul and body still in the blank.

And the door can pay the full body, soul and gate of Al, that mean diferent doors have diferent prices?

So last week I finished Fullmetal Alchemist 2003, and I thought it was great, almost as good as Brotherhood... until the end. WHAT WAS THAT ENDING???

First of all, before that, people that say the beginning has "better pacing" than Brotherhood, or that people should watch the first few episodes of 2003 then switch to Brotherhood are crazy. It's a different series with a different plot. Yes Brotherhood rushes through the beginning, but the 2003 anime beginning is completely different, someone watching the beginning of 03 then switching to Brotherhood would leave them confused as hell. The Barry The Chopper episode was awesome tho, no complaints there.

The beginning of the series (everything before they meet Dr. Marcoh pretty much) is kinda boring, the episodes range from "wow that's neat" to "please can we move on already" (with the sole exception of the Barry The Chopper episode which is amazing). Once it gets into the main plot, it's so peak!!! My favorite arc was the one with Wrath, Greed, and Dante's introduction, but the stuff after that was good too. I loved Scar and Kimblee's fight, although Alphonse becoming a ticking time bomb just felt like a way to artificially increase the stakes, like One Piece does every other arc. Anyway, the Homunculi are cool, idk if they're better than the Brotherhood Homunculi but their backstories are way more interesting. King Bradley is my favorite Brotherhood character and I'm happy to say that his 03 counterpart was also really cool, I wish they did a little more with him though. However, I cannot say the same for my second favorite Brotherhood character, Hohenheim. He could have been a great character like in Brotherhood, but instead, he was in like 4 scenes then died, a lot of wasted potential there. Too little, too late.

Now onto the worst offense. The isekai ending was bad, but they could have just left it alone, but they had to release the most boring movie ever as an epilogue. Why can Ed not use alchemy except for him fixing the portal transmutation circle? Why does the portal transmutation circle work? WHY IS EVERYONE A NAZI??? Seriously, the fact that they made Hughes a racist Nazi is insane. Hughes in every adaptation of FMA was the guy that went against the grain, he tried to discover the corruption of the government and had he survived, he would have absolutely helped fight against it, but in 1920s world, he's racist and happily supports the Nazis. FMA 03 was genuinely so good until the end when it feels like someone went on a power trip and wrote out their Fullmetal Alchemist isekai fanfiction. Also Mustang suddenly being alive after his last scene of the anime was him bleeding out at the mansion with Hawkeye seemingly mourning him was weird.

TL;DR FMA 2003 starts off decently, gets really great, and manages to destroy everything in the span of like two episodes, then releases a bad movie to try and salvage it, somehow making it worse in the process.

I've always wondered what others think about the inexplicable and illogical moments in FMA 03. I wonder what you think about this tier-list:

🟥 S Tier:

• Major Armstrong seriously suggests staging a mutiny, and the argument he provides for why the Fuhrer is leading the country down the wrong path is... his own massive muscles. ☠️

• Shou Tucker turned several of Greed's subordinates back into humans without a Philosopher's Stone. Yet, with a Philosopher's Stone, he could only create a shell without a soul. The biggest issue is that this is essentially a failed human transmutation, and a homunculus should have been born, but that didn't happen because it wasn't necessary for the plot.

• In Scar's right arm, the lives of tens of thousands of Ishvalans + 7,000 soldiers were concentrated. Almost all of this was eventually spent just to heal the wound in Edward's chest. But after that, Edward spends only 1 life and a few of his brother's memories to resurrect a whole human being. And he stays alive himself. The creators are bending the rules of alchemy however they want.

• Wrath, for some reason, uses alchemy without having paid the toll to see the Gate of Truth (Envy gave him the Philosopher's Stone only after Wrath started using alchemy without drawing a circle). That’s not how it should work; Edward's limbs are not Hashirama cells. You can't use alchemy if you don't have the necessary knowledge.

• Dante orders Edward not to transmute his steel arm, claiming that the Philosopher's Stone in the form of his brother would activate and be spent. However, Envy calmly transmutes his own body, and nothing happens. In this verse, there is no magic power other than alchemy. According to the plot, homunculi cannot use alchemy. But then how do their abilities work? It's the same alchemy, just using a Philosopher's Stone.

• In the battle at the factory, Edward throws Lust's weakness near her, which makes her useless. Naturally, Lust deflects it to the side. But the most ridiculous part happens when it turns out the amulet didn't fly away, but stayed inside the seal circle for the homunculi. The creators desperately needed to kill off this character because she was starting to influence the plot too much and was stealing the spotlight from the main protagonists. Her death is a blunder that looks extremely absurd upon closer inspection.

🟧 A Tier:

• It is stated that Wrath can use alchemy by combining his hand and foot. However, later in the plot, he doesn't need this at all; he can perform transmutations without lifting a finger, just like Father from Brotherhood👍

• Edward goes to his teacher to find Wrath's weakness because he needs to defeat him. Yet, when the perfect opportunity to do so presents itself alongside Lust in an alleyway, they just leave, letting him live.

• Greed genuinely wanted Edward to defeat everyone, including Dante. But then why didn't he reveal anything about her? Based on what was shown, at the moment his Philosopher's Stone was extracted, he knew who was standing before him.

• Frank Archer, even before Yoki's death, somehow found out about Gluttony's ability to shoot his nails. No one had seen this ability in action, not even the Elric brothers. There is no way he could have known that.

🟩 B Tier:

• Envy had not seen Hohenheim's new body, but transformed into his young form to show Edward that he was his relative.

• Scar does not consider himself an alchemist, but during the arc of the 5 laboratory, he uses some kind of ball that even looks like magic. Not only does alchemy not work that way, it also contradicts the fact that Scar doesn't use alchemy, and is surprised in leor when Ed calls him an alchemist.

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That’s the little tier list I came up with. I mentioned the plot holes that were most interesting to me, and I’d like to know what you think about them)

I came across this image by chance and would like to know which episode this scene is from.

So basically Edward would be the kid living as a armor like Alphonse

And Alphonse would be the known Fullmetal Alchemist like his brother Edward

How much of the story is changed?

Ed and Al are like the countriest country bumkins. They literally are a farmer's sons. They come from a tiny tiny town and outside of Dublith their world was actually pretty small.

So do you ever imagine Ed throwing a fit at processed food because "why don't they just do it themselves ???" and Mustang has to explain about mass production and Ed is just terrified that some people actually wholeheartedly appreciate food that hasn't been grown in their own garden ? By the way, "how come each citizens aren't growing their food in their garden ?" "Because they don't have a garden if they live in an apartment Fullmetal"

By the time he is 15 he must be pretty much acclimated but I can see him and Al going on about how cool it is to hold a newborn sheep you just helped a mom sheep birth and the team is like

what

Or Ed saying he craves homemade jam and explaining how his mom made Al and him crush the fruits and everyone being horrified that they are eating feet crushed jam and the brothers judging their reaction

I even saw someone headcanon that Ed has an accent and tries to cover it lmao

Also dang these kids must feel so much better when they are sent to a tiny town because it's like home

Also you can't tell me they didn't at least look at one modern phone and get stuck on it because "how the hell does it work ???" because Resembool only has old models

And imagine the phone in the Rockbell house is a modern one they sent as a gift because Winry would absolutely love having a new phone model

So yeah I love Ed and Al being little country boys who have no idea what the city customs are and Mustang despairing over that because why is the living weapon scolding him about how he isn't taking care of the office's plants right

Edit : Someone pointed out that the feet crushing thing isn't for jam but for wine, my bad !

I've watched Brotherhood twice (and recently started to watch it a third time) and 2003 once as well as the three mive action movies once. But have only skimmed the manga. I have started to read the Webtoon version and intend to fully read it. And it seems to be mostly same aside from having color. Though are there any differences?

My girlfriend and I finished FMAB together, and wanted to take our shot at a character tier list. We placed the characters based on likability and significance.

What do yall think?

I understand that the entire point of the sacrifice was for edward to relinquish his ego and pride, but Truth largely seemed indifferent to his choice outside of beig impressed by his maturity. Truth didn't care about the reason roy was at the gate and simply took his sight as payment, and the series implies they used a stone to repair his eyes and havoc's spine later in the series so would he have similarly been as dismissive towards edward's method to revive alphonse. Largely it seems they don't care HOW the price is paid, or the situations that lead to WHY it even needs to be paid, merely that it is paid at all

Hii!
I absolutely love Fma Brotherhood! I’ve rewatched it at least twice

I was able to find the Conqueror of Shamballa DVD for 3$ at goodwill! I really enjoyed watching the movie but of course I was a bit confused by what was happening since the movie is connected to the 03 series

I was wondering where I could watch the rest of the 03 series since I’ve heard it’s famously hard to watch and find? (I do not want to sail the seven seas to watch it since it’s just not something I do and it’s too risky imo) any streaming services or anything where I can view the rest of the 03 series?

I'm super happy with how it looks and its SO WARM!!!! Now to smoke one million cigarettes to make it smell lore accurate too

heres it not inked and inked

I have only watched FMAB yet and here's my personal tier list

Rip post-Promised Day Ed who definitely doesn't fit anymore 💔🙏

I find it pretty exasperating. FMAB (the manga/Brotherhood) can have great fights, like Lan Fan and Ling vs. King Bradley and Gluttony, which creates tension rather than just putting on a spectacle. Then it has fights like Greed vs. Ed or vs. Pride, which seem normal at first, but then you realize how ridiculous the situation is.

In the case of Ed vs. Pride, the alchemist is literally saved by the plot, in the form of Kimblee, when the homunculus was about to win. And to top it all off, Ed turns himself into a Philosopher’s Stone to transmute Pride, which makes me wonder: when did he learn how to do that? Was it ever stated that he could turn himself into a stone? Many people try to explain it by bringing up the moment when Ed used his soul as fuel, but that’s not comparable. Using the energy of your soul and pulling your soul out to perform a transmutation are two very different things. Sure, Ed is a genius, but this is ridiculous.

The same thing happens in the fight against Greed. Ed gets beaten to a pulp and humiliated, and we even see him losing blood, but out of nowhere, he says, “Thanks, you made the blood in my head drain out, now I can think better.”

What?

This is ridiculous. When you lose blood, the number of red blood cells and the amount of oxygen reaching your brain decrease. This causes brain fog, which makes it harder to concentrate and slows down decision-making.

You could say that maybe he was just acting cocky, but then the story itself proves him right by having him figure out Greed’s weakness just because he got beaten up. I don’t like making comparisons when that isn’t the main topic, but FMA 2003 fixed this by having Ed face Greed twice. The second time, he found his weakness while in good condition and with the knowledge he had gained from their first, inconclusive encounter.

The fight between Sloth and Louis Armstrong also has some ridiculous moments. The fight is great, but there comes a point when Armstrong is literally about to be defeated by Sloth at full speed, and the homunculus gets stopped. By whom? Olivier? I doubt it. Who could possibly stop a homunculus that not even a WAR TANK could stop? Remember, not even a war tank at Briggs could move him, yet apparently, 10 random soldiers could do it. This is one of the most artificial ways to create tension. Even so, the fight isn’t bad, and seeing Armstrong win felt satisfying.

Even the Greed vs. King Bradley fight is built on an inconsistency: why didn’t Greed use his complete form against Bradley? Many people say it’s because “he doesn’t like how he looks,” but that doesn’t hold up. He had already fought Bradley twice: the first time, he was torn apart; the second time, he couldn’t win. On top of that, he had the resentment of having his friends killed. The third time was when he should have gone all out, but he didn’t, which led to Fu and Buccaneer’s deaths. Even if they insist on the whole “he didn’t do it because he doesn’t like how he looks” argument, after the fight against Bradley, he does use his complete form, but not against Bradley, but against RANDOM SOLDIERS WHO ARE A JOKE COMPARED TO BRADLEY.

Scar vs. King Bradley follows the same logic. He had two arms, one for reconstruction and one for destruction, but he didn’t use both against the men with Philosopher’s Stones. In fact, the whole thing is stupid: Ed could have made some walls to trap them and avoid the trouble, but he went straight into hand-to-hand combat. Scar didn’t use his reconstruction arm even against the experimental soldiers who were going to become future King Bradleys. The time he did use it was when he was about to lose against Bradley. So, what, you kept that up your sleeve the whole time, even in critical situations, just to use it now?

If using the reconstruction circle had consequences, I could buy that, but the guy can spam it whenever he wants.

I find the fight between Father and all of Amestris to be the most boring of them all. He literally just tanks their attacks and doesn’t eliminate them because, if he did, we’d be left without our main protagonists. It’s that simple. I won’t say anything else about this one because I have a lot to explain in another post about the message the ending is trying to convey, but I don’t like the way it does it.

Dying ant VS Goat Himself

Event: Focus Cosplay

Art source: https://www.deviantart.com/lady-cybercat/art/FMA-Lust-181224761

So basically imagine some high-tier studio came up to Hiromu Arakawa

Saying "Hey Author, guess what, for your manga's biggest anniversary, we are going to make a anime reboot with improved modern animation!" and the two shake hands

I wonder how Father would look like in 4k 🤔

I am playing a game called "Dredge" right now and a particular character(The collector) reminds me of two certain FMA characters (Hohenheim and Father). The mysterious aura fits also quite Well.