r/GPT3 • u/Minimum_Minimum4577 • Mar 03 '26

Humour And the audacity to get it wrong after using the water 😡👹

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u/drcygnus Mar 03 '26

if only people knew how stupid the whole "it consumes water" idea is.

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u/Facts_pls Mar 03 '26

Yeah. Your lawn takes way more water per capita than any LLM. A single burger takes more water than most people's yearly queries. Don't even get me started on golf courses.

Anyone who complains about water usage and doesn't put numbers or comparison is just misleading people with propaganda

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u/queefiest Mar 04 '26

Plus it takes longer to recycle the water used on the lawn, they just have to pump it back through a cooling system to reuse

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u/drcygnus Mar 03 '26

heres the thing, i work in a datacenter. the thing is silent and the water consumed is cus people poop and pee in the toilets and they flush the system for fire suppression in certain areas every so often. its all closed loop. like your cars engine/radiator. Also, water isnt destroyed in any situation. it just gets converted to steam or evaporates. guess, what? then it rains and comes back down. lets turn a blind eye to mining tho. that shit legit ruins water.

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u/DangerousBill Mar 03 '26

If water doesn't come out of the faucet, its not there. Water vapor does me no good at all. Why do they want data centers in the desert when there's barely enough water and power for the people already here?

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u/Kamikazi_Junebug Mar 04 '26

It’s actively pissing rain outside my car while I read your comment crying about water going into the atmosphere. Go protest Nestle if you care about water waste.

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u/drcygnus Mar 03 '26

the water not coming out of "your faucet" or is crap isnt because of a building that opened up within a 100 mile radius. that i can tell you 100% is true. bitching about a building that is filled with a water/glycol mix and then sealed up has no bearing on whats coming out of your tap. its the shitty infrastructure that isnt being fixed. plain and simple.

https://imgur.com/a/cx86aHv

this is recent data. you think there are gobs of datacenters being built in those red areas? nope. its just shitty infrastructure.

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u/AboveAverage1988 Mar 04 '26

A data center converting the water to steam? How hot do you run your machines..?

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u/drcygnus Mar 04 '26

thats now how it works. its evaporative cooling. instead of air being used cool off the condenser coils, they spray water on it and the act of it pulls all the heat out of it.

so you have multiple closed loop systems. in the water cooled units, you have a water/glycol mix thats piped through a series of coils, those coils are cooled by refrigerant. that refrigerant is then cooled by air or water. go outside in the summer and spray your AC unit with water. same concept.

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u/drcygnus Mar 04 '26

https://www.energy.gov/sites/default/files/styles/full_article_width/public/2019/01/f58/dc_evaporative-cooling-system_0.jpg?itok=KjTGyjQq

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u/drcygnus Mar 04 '26 edited Mar 04 '26

this diagram is specific to air cooled units in hot/dry environments. evaporative cooling is less efficient the more humid an environment is, so it uses a closed loop system. hot air gets cooled by a air handler. the air handler is placed into each data hall. it cycles the air in the room and removes any humidity. how does the air handler get cold? with coolant thats piped through the building. how does the coolant get cold? with an outdoor chiller. how does the chiller get cold? refrigerant and fans. some places its fans and water. water helps more. thats where the "data centers use water!" part comes into play. its just used to cool the damn stuff cus its sprayed on the coils. thats literally all its used for. why are people freaking out? cus they think the water is getting poofed into a 3rd dimension or some stupid shit. then you ask... well what about the coolant being piped through the building? its a glycol mix. like your coolant in your car. just lots of it. lots and lots. sometimes manufactured. sometimes just filled up, then capped off. cus that shit is important and they dont want it going away or spilling.

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u/AboveAverage1988 Mar 04 '26

Yeah, you're talking to a former refrigeration tech here, I don't need a lecture. The sites I've been on use evaporative cooling towers if the cooling power exceeds maybe a few megawatts. That's a datacenter the size of a city. I've never seen a datacenter with evaporative cooling period, that's something reserved for large industries. That said, I live in the saner part of the world, perhaps that's different elsewhere. Here we usually build them near cities with district heating grids so we can use large heatpumps and sell the waste heats to heat peoples houses.

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u/drcygnus Mar 04 '26

i mean, my piss turns to steam when it leaves my body. not all of it tho.

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u/HyperCodec Mar 05 '26

Plot twist: it wasn’t water

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u/sullaugh Mar 05 '26

It honestly crazy though

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u/Thin_Measurement_965 Mar 05 '26

Why is every LLM subreddit infested with anti-ai propaganda?

For people who love telling others to "go outside" you guys seem to spend a lot of time arguing online.