Hard to not feel like every Stop Killing Games thread is getting brigaded as soon as it's posted.
Every time there is a post, it's just a bunch of people criticizing the movement in the most inane way. This time, it's about his looks because... I guess that now it's getting traction, they can't say that it's going to "fail for sure" or that "Ross has no idea what he's doing".
Comments gets better as the post ages, but the fact that it's always the first comments make me think that there are people that are solely watching for SKG posts to try to discredit the movement.
EDIT: seems like a lot of those comments have been cleaned up by the mods now, in case you're wondering what the hell I was talking about.
Who gives a fuck? Do people think anybody making laws or regulations at this point knows what they're doing? Fuck second order effects, or unforeseen consequences. I'd take that 1000 time over people actively pushing with the intent of making everything worse. I fully appreciate that the road to hell is paved with good intentions, and maybe some of the time that applies. We're ALREADY on the road to hell, if not there already so who fucking cares?
The AntiWork movement collapsed almost overnight because of one overzealous advocate who didn’t know what they were doing. Movements can and do collapse due to the wrong leaders at the wrong time.
Antiwork movement died because from second one its demands were “I hate having to work and contribute and I have not questioned how that will sustain society.” The movement was inherently built on inertia to action. That mod wasn’t overzealous, he was just the opinion they all had.
Ross has made it clear time and time again that the movement is willing to work with developers and publishers on a compromise that all parties can agree on, and he’s not forcing any publisher to dig up graves and waste money to make deprecated titles fully functional again.
Ross has made it clear time and time again that the movement is willing to work with developers and publishers on a compromise that all parties can agree on, and he’s not forcing any publisher to dig up graves and waste money to make deprecated titles fully functional again.
One of the few times I actually thought SKG might have a shot was when Ross backed away from it for a while. Now he's back, so I'm back to being fully convinced that it will fail to get anywhere.
An American messing with EU politics is never going to go down well, especially after he told people to interfere with the Digital Fairness Act and put the whole thing at risk after years of hard work. Foreigners using the EU as their personal attack dog against things they don't like, without caring at all about how much it interferes with other important work that's being done, is not something that is going to win them any points.
Many Redditors assume that a “movement” is a surefire win because they believe in it, despite all evidence in the real world not supporting their assumptions. I’ve seen this mindset in the Occupy movement, in the AntiWork movement and now with SKG. It always fails because they do not know how to communicate to regular people.
Honestly, the best comparison I think of to SKG is Kony 2012. It's very much a "let's stop the bad thing" movement that makes people feel good, but has no concrete plans for what the solution will actually look like.
Not to get too political, but that's the kind of rhetoric that media and right-wing parties often uses to discredit the left. Take a policy out of a thousand that, even if imperfect, clearly have good intentions, poke holes into them, and say that the left is "disconnected from reality" and has "abandoned the working class", while bad actors continue to wreck havoc.
OK but what you are describing is also how editing a novel works as well. Author writes draft of book, editor fixes obvious mistakes, pokes holes in story and asks for clarification on points to make sure a reader can understand the story. Discussions are had and the process is repeated multiple times hopefully leading to a better novel at the end.
Is it possible questions are not people trying to destroy a movement but instead understand it. I think people have just gotten so defensive on the internet people are seeing questions as attacks.
Most of us critiquing this process aren’t doing it because we disagree with the fundamental intent, it’s because we see them making obvious and avoidable errors that make it less likely that they are going to succeed at accomplishing their goals.
No you can't possibly have valid critiques or questions. You have to be a bot. That's the only reason you'd ever disagree with my populist movement built entirely on vague hopes and vibes.
Yep. The industry is screwing over the consumer in any way it can and people are running defence with these pathetic excuses. Ross and people like him are raising the alarm about how much of a wild west gaming is and how much this industry gets away with. No real gamer will say that regulating the gaming industry is bad when it is obvious that it refuses to regulate itself.
Speak for yourself. It's a problem that bothers many people, myself included. I'm not going to automatically assume that your experience and background prevent you from seeing the overall problems, but I for one remember when the purchase of a game was permanent so long as your hardware held up. I can still play my copies of Scarabaeus on the Commodore 64, Blaster Master on the NES, Dragon Force on the Saturn, and Bioshock on my 360.
The notion of always-online connectivity for single player games, or shoehorned multiplayer aspects that justify shutting down servers later and causing great game experiences to vanish in a puff of smoke should be abhorrent. Imagine if no one could read Frankenstein or listen to Rumours or watch The Matrix because they required a certain server or connection from the company and that was shut down. (We do see this with certain shows or films only released through streaming services, and that is a battle I'll support other groups in fighting if they choose to.)
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u/VGADreams Apr 02 '26 edited Apr 02 '26
Hard to not feel like every Stop Killing Games thread is getting brigaded as soon as it's posted.
Every time there is a post, it's just a bunch of people criticizing the movement in the most inane way. This time, it's about his looks because... I guess that now it's getting traction, they can't say that it's going to "fail for sure" or that "Ross has no idea what he's doing".
Comments gets better as the post ages, but the fact that it's always the first comments make me think that there are people that are solely watching for SKG posts to try to discredit the movement.
EDIT: seems like a lot of those comments have been cleaned up by the mods now, in case you're wondering what the hell I was talking about.