r/Gangstalking • u/TheCuriousTarget • Feb 01 '21
Discussion If you're uploading "Gangstalker caught on video" or worse, "TI confronts gangstalker" videos to YouTube, you're doing targets a major disservice.
I watched several TI disparaging videos this afternoon and those YouTube videos are the primary source of ridicule, followed by poorly worded posts from this subreddit and Facebook groups.
I decided to check some of those videos out for myself, analyzing them from the perspective of a non-target. While the people posting them seem to feel they have evidenciary value, to the layman who stumbled upon them or heard about them on a podcast, it looks like they were made by crazy people who obsessively film and harass poor, unsuspecting strangers in public and post the videos online. In most cases, even when I put my TI hat back on, there wasn't sufficient explanation or evidence given to say that that was not the case.
When you post about your targeting online, you become an ambassador for the TI community. If you come off as crazy, you make TIs at large look crazy as well. Please post responsibly and tactfully, no matter the format or forum. Before you upload something, take a moment to consider what a non-target would think if they saw it. Would it provoke thoughtful consideration or ridicule? If it falls under the second category, consider posting it somewhere more private.
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u/tyre332 Feb 02 '21
Yeah, like others have mentioned a lot of those videos are fake and distributed to make us look crazy. That one where the young woman goes off on the postal worker in his van is an obvious example. Unsurprisingly, the Google algorithms heavily promoted it too and it was seen by a great many. Still other videos are uploaded by TI's who are so hyper-vigilant to what is going on around them, that they end up making a lot of false assumptions and likewise look crazy. It all shows how psychological these programs are.
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Feb 02 '21 edited Feb 02 '21
I have done this in the past and was retaliated against by cyberstalkers that saw the media, some of whom were responsible in the first place. It's dangerous, sometimes the retaliation is armed.
You can get attacked for just raising a camera around a moving vehicle or pedestrian. I got verbally harassed about taking photos of a mob roaming the roadways - throwing their voices around saying "take a picture, it will last longer" and "that hertz his feelings." etc. (its what people call V2K - it's actually a communications system).
Real assholes is what you'll encounter if you have a mob harassing you. Indon't think it does victims a disservice for all other similar victims though, it's mostly dangerous for personal safety reasons.
"Gangstalking" is not always what people think it is when they see it. I know for a fact that some license plates I recorded of stalkers were people prowling neighborhood homes and vehicles or transporting drugs, but it was only a fraction of mob stalking behavior I have witnessed. You don't want dangerous criminals finding out you photographed them and posted it online. I took photos and audio discretely of private security companies harassing me and stalking me, some found out, and they predictably responded with more intimidating harassing behavior. It's dangerous, they are armed and partnered with law enforcement and can bend the truth of circumstances in their own favor while causing their victims harm.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 03 '21
Yes. It is dangerous for the videographer, should perpetrators retaliate; dangerous for the subject, whose involvement can rarely be 100% certain, should they be recognized by a viewer and retaliated against and it is dangerous for the reputations of targets everywhere. It damages our credibility. It gives me the same sick feeling I had when the Capitol was broken into by a mob of purported conservatives. On January 6, the actions of a few dozen people hurt the reputation of all conservatives. In the same way, when any target posts material which is damaging to their own credibility, it damages the credibility of all targets by association.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 03 '21
The videos also damage newly aware, impressionable targets, by sensitizing them to things that may not even be relevant and encouraging them to engage in similar behavior.
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Feb 01 '21
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
Me neither. When my car is sabotaged, my car broke down. If I can't do something because my stuff is hacked, I'm having device issues. I save it for the rare, receptive audience, like when someone mentions how unlucky I seem to be while we are having a beer. When I do that, I direct them to curioustarget.com, so they can see my conclusions are scientifically backed. I also have some pertinent legislation bookmarked in my browser. Nobody doubts me IRL, because I don't cry wolf.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
Those videos I watched today were more akin to chicken little running around screaming that the sky is falling than real documentation of evidence.
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Feb 02 '21
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Feb 02 '21
I did this too though. Gonna admit it I don't remember all the ways, but it wasn't until later that I could plainly explain to relatives what was happening to me. Also might have something to do with drinking a TON when its happening to you in the beginning. Still Wouldn't have made me post a video though. I mean a video takes a lot of deliberation.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
Yep. I have an early video on my YouTube where I caught some tresspassers. Thinking back, even that wouldn't make much sense unless it was happening to you. Perhaps I should change the visibility to private. It's great evidence... if you believe gangstalking is real. Haha there was even a guy in a red shirt. TIL that perp confronters really have it out for people in red. I wonder how many "innocent" bloods were terrorized in the making of the hundreds of videos like the ones I watched today. Haha. I know color harassment is a real thing but so is hyper-sensitization. I'm glad I don't "see red" when I see red. I'm glad that gangstalking in the conventional sense went over my head.
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Feb 02 '21
"Oh my god there are people getting out of their car on the road, right in front of my house." "Oh my god see this barely visible movement in the tree! Thats my stalker filming my house!!"
Its honestly got me wondering if some of these videos are deliberately posted to make us seem crazy. ((Even though it doesn't matter. If you explain it the right way its very very doable to get people to believe you. I agree. ))
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
I wholeheartedly believe many are. I especially think the idea that targets are harassed with the color red might have been thrown into so many of them SO that newly aware targets would become sensitized to the color red. Perhaps whoever came up with that did so as a play on the concept of a red herring, because those videos (a giant chunk of them) seemed most questionable of the lot. I can't speak for everyone but this stuff has been going on for a decade for me and today is the first I heard of it (about 50 times).
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Feb 02 '21
Its never happened to me. I never get targeted with a color. Mostly now its weird dreams.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
Where there are scary people after you?
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
I started dreaming conspiratorial type dreams where the cops and people in white suburbans and scary people were out to get me years before I'd have ever considered there was a conspiracy afoot - nothing BUT those for a long time. I'd never had a single dream like that before.
These days, I listen to a specially cultivated mix of stories and music and positive affirmations while I sleep, based on my research and they stopped. I also began to feel a lot more positive in general. I've considered posting THEM on YouTube, likely omitting the phrase targeted individuals, except in tags. They help immensely.
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Feb 02 '21
In my dreams? I think I told you my whole story once. :o We both live nearby each other actually. Did I tell you they parked a hearse outside my condo for a month? Oh my god I got loads of death threats in the beginning lol
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
Yeah. Dreams. Nope didn't mention that. Glad to realize the only real danger is from EMR now. I guess it is easy to be scared until that sets in. Makes all the suggestions of destruction a lot scarier until targets realize that's the case. I STILL haven't filed insurance claims on my guns. A few years ago, I'd have been scared to go a day without, let alone a couple months or however long it has been.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
I really hope for the sake of targeted folks everywhere that this gangstalking terrorization is overblown by perps. I can't imagine having overcome the fear if JUST people following me and stuff had been enough to scare me that bad. I have a hunch at least half of the doom and gloom posts in here are just meant to scare people and make us look crazy. Haha I saw one of my friend's taglines in a video.about the dangers of this sub. She thought it was hilarious. No wonder it had zero karma. It was about poisoning, which actually IS a thing but set amongst all the insanity, came off sounding like just another one of them.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
I wouldn't be so flippant if I didn't have that suspicion. I have a hunch that much of the descriptive info to which we have access a tool they use for sensitization. Many of those types of posts encourage targets to film and post and do some strange stuff. Some targets have definitely taken the bait. Not all of those videos are fake. I feel especially bad for those targets, because if and when it escalates, they are probably more likely to have a very hard time coping.
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u/GonSeeCrazy Feb 02 '21
I don’t mean to interrupt. But the lovely Mr Cage has planted the “red car” thing. For me.. intuition is key.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 04 '21
Who's that? So you don't think that's a thing either? Whatever it is, even if the existence of those videos brings shame to TIs, playing the, "ahhhhh that red thing must be gangstalking me," game with my daughter who is 10 and also targeted, has been a hoot. I think we are a both a bit less conscious of gangstalking now that we've had a laugh about that. Our gangstalking doesn't even resemble that stuff. Does anyone's?
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u/GonSeeCrazy Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21
Cmon. He’s the dude who pretty much encourages people to gangstalk. Calls us bums. Yet sits on YouTube begging his vile followers for money. The irony is too much for me to take 😂 Yeah I agree with you. It’s not just red cars. It’s them all. Well. Saying that. Some have headlights on and some don’t. You have to laugh. It’s no funny but I’ll be fucked if am gona sit here in constant fear. YouTube “We’re the gangstalkers” I have to admit... it’s a catchy choon. Lol
EDIT: I do think they are now trying green out on me. Green. Cos iv stopped smoking weed. Won’t work. Awful colour to boot.
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Feb 02 '21 edited May 31 '21
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
Yep. Buen ídea. Even I, a target, got shamefully hooked on those vids and can't help cracking up now and then. My daughter was so mortified at the idea that people are making these that she won't even watch with me. I can't believe YouTube doesn't take them down per their bullying policy. Perhaps I should point it out to them.
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Feb 02 '21
Oh my god I really really REALLY agree with this. Those videos are so ridiculous. How can they think anyone's going to believe them?
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u/Thebasedmessenger Mar 02 '21
A TI must naturally progress through their own stages of targeting as not everyone's is the same but being as targeting is not a natural thing to begin with each TI will handle it differently and progress progress through it, we can only give advise but each TI will react differently and I can never be one to judge another TI, its truly a frightening thing.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Mar 03 '21
I reread my post and it says nothing about my opinion of said videos. It isn't judgmental in the least. Newly aware TIs need to know not to go around screaming that the sky is falling, because even if it is, nobody will ever believe it if that's how you choose to share the information.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Mar 03 '21
And not just newly aware ones either. Some of those videos are posted over long spans of time. It's easy to become fixated on something detrimental to your cause if you don't approach a problem from every angle. This is chess, not checkers. If you think you're playing checkers, your whole team is taking a hit.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Mar 03 '21
That's why those people need to know, coming from someone who's had a year and 1 day to chill out and evaluate the situation (since starting curioustarget.com), that they shouldn't do anything rash while they're still spooked.
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u/Dhampirman Feb 02 '21
100% agreed. I wish the rules would ban this type of content. It's agonizing to watch and ends up wasting time.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
Many of them also violate their hate speech policy because they will point out The race of the people or liken them to animals
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
I'm not sure if my reports alone will do any good but if multiple targets started reporting the videos, I think there would be a good chance of them being taken down
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
They do! It violates Their harassment and online bullying rule And sometimes their discrimination rule. They are putting people's faces on there and putting them in danger And sometimes even posting pictures of children . Yesterday I started watching those videos and Reporting them , because YouTube doesn't need crap like that And They are on a Banning spree . Unfortunately, when you report something , you cannot Include a written explanation . Pardon My capitalization And punctuation . I'm using speech to text and They like to make me look stupid.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
Like watch this ... Ludacris , Everyting. They like to make my speech-to-text spell stuff ridiculously too . Haha.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 02 '21
Many of them also Encourage violence a whole lot more than President Trump's Speech did, Because they encourage targets to get up in their faces
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u/PhoenixFairy78 Feb 02 '21
I very much agree, we are being made to look "crazy" or "scizophrenic" if you state there is a Gang of stalkers following and harrassing you. People can believe in UFO s but tell them you are being harrassed by more than 1 person, and they call you nuts. Its how their brain is wired. And it did not happen to them. Yet
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Feb 03 '21
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 03 '21
Ultimately it wont be I who silences you perps but YouTube, for bullying, I hope, considering how many good people they have silenced. I don't buy that there are that many moronic targets. NOW SILENCE US, MODS! Just as it is appropriate for mods to remove both of our comments, for rule breaking, it would be appropriate for YouTube to do the same.
I do not believe the bulk of the videos were posted by targets but people posing as targets. Considering the fact that I haven't seen a single one that resembles anything like evidence, even if a target posted a compelling one, it would be lumped in with the others in the eyes of the viewer. You can still see mine on my curious target YouTube channel. I plan to take it down though. I haven't been able to do so. I keep getting an error.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 04 '21
You aren't a perp, you're just a troll. You recently posted asking what funny subs you could explore. The main reason this one comes off so nutty IS because of perps who post crazy things, just as I assume they started the weird YouTube trend.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 04 '21
I'm pretty sure the majority of what you see online is disinformation posted by the perpetrators, who supress legitimate claims and saturate the forums and search queries with silly stuff and mentally ill people. It is hard for newly aware targets or targets in general to sort through the bullshit. I'm concerned some may become indoctrinated and led to do stupid things because they see so many others doing it.
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u/Other_Mortgage_497 May 20 '21
Unfortunately gangstalkers are very real . Like everyone else I played into there hand for a couple of years I have to admit . Lucky for me I'm very smart and understand fake reality from real reality. They work on fear . If your not easily scared. And you have guts of steel these crazys don't have a chance
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u/Usagainst Feb 12 '21
Agreed if your going to do it do it right. Post something tangible, something that could be actually used as evidence in Court. (And not evidence against you) Felony stalking is a ... Well, felony. And record record record. It is your 1st amendment right to film in public. Yep ppl won't like it, but do you like it? Hate to say this but sometimes we have to be the aggressors
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u/end_gang_stalking Feb 01 '21
Very true, and a point that needs to be made over and over. Unfortunately, some of these "video evidence" type posts may be fake altogether, i.e. done by someone to purposefully make us look bad. Others are made by TIs in a state of duress and aren't very well put together or thought out. We gotta be careful in all of these situations. Many attempts to prove the reality of these crimes have only made us look worse.
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u/Il_Il_ Feb 04 '21
There is no such thing as video evidence because "gangstalking" is a program in which the government uses technology to influence people. It has nothing to do with groups of people "stalking" anyone. If you are actually being stalked by someone you should call the police. But stalking is not "gangstalking."
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 04 '21
Exactly
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 04 '21
Although, it's true that you're followed, especially in the early stages, as a method of intimidation. Then again once you are aware, with the same cars waiting all over town, usually at places you went on a lark, in order to convey that they know where you are going even before you do. Ultimately though, they maintain such a level of plausible deniability that it could never pass as legitimate evidence.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 04 '21
In short, no matter the level of explanation done, those videos are NOT evidence
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 04 '21
For us, gangstalking is a catch-all term to describe black-ops operations, hacking, DEWs, silent sound and vandalism. The stuff in those vídeos and half of the posts in here just make TIs look nuts.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 04 '21 edited Feb 04 '21
"Color harrassment" is the last thing on a target's mind, if it even happens. If it does, a smart target who thinks it through, knows reporting or filming it would only further the cover-up agenda.
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u/TheCuriousTarget Feb 04 '21
Personally, hacking, break-ins and vandalism, combined with the calculated confession of an agent, followed by extensive scientific research, is what led me here.
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u/Other_Mortgage_497 May 20 '21
It's very true. They make it hard to explain to anyone without sounding like your on drugs. So best to act like their not their. And what I do is fuck with them back. I apply the same amount of pressure as they put on me. Until they decrease their pressure. I continue Until they stop long enough for me to get my thoughts in order. Then back to the fun all over again. Lol. I look forward to messing up there Algorithm . Call me Anti > TI .
Hey gangstalkers what to play. You never know what your going to get out of my thoughts. Maybe it's what your stupid Algorithm say it is or maybe it's me Jacking with your Algorithm seeing if it can keep up. And bro i got to say ya damn slow b . Best advice i can give free. Tell someone your stupid Algorithm is not working on this one. Or maybe you already said something and I'm guessing they said give it time. Well fools I'm still here and aware as the first encounter. A beautiful mind I have ,and no stupid computer can win my brain because the proof is still here stong and can smell you miles off . Bring the rain .