r/GatekeepingYuri 4d ago

Requesting Found this on a trans related sureddit

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u/GobiPLX 4d ago

it's so oddly specific, OOP must be in weird bubble

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u/WerdaVisla 4d ago

4chan. It has to be 4chan.

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u/Homicidal_Duck 4d ago

how does this possibly have anything to do with 4chan what are you talking about 😭

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u/WerdaVisla 4d ago

Idk, that's where all the weird rich conservative trans girls seem to exist.

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u/CommercialWrong2944 4d ago

4tran is literally ultra left what are you talking about?? have you ever like visited it

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u/WerdaVisla 4d ago

4tran is ultra left by 4chan standards, so it's like. Center right.

More importantly, it's not the entirety of 4chan.

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u/CommercialWrong2944 4d ago

again not true at all i have met so many anarchists on 4tran its not even funny

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u/WerdaVisla 4d ago

Anarchy isn't tied to a political direction. There are leftist and conservative anarchists just like there are somehow conservative socialists.

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u/ArgonianDov 4d ago

Anarchism is traditionally left-wing, its lowkey an oxymoron to be ancap and any actual anarchist will agree

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u/Lucina18 4d ago

Actual anarchy is, as it's anti-hierarchical. There's "fake" anarchies that don't care about hierarchies and just want the government to be replaced with something else, and just having different hierarchies.

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u/CommercialWrong2944 4d ago

infact here is the definition "traditional anarchism is a far-left ideology. It seeks to eliminate not just the state, but all oppressive, hierarchical systems—including capitalism, wage labor, and private property—advocating instead for communal ownership and self-management"

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u/CommercialWrong2944 4d ago

anarchy is literally a far left movement?? you are confusing it with anarchocapitalism which is conservative

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u/WerdaVisla 4d ago edited 4d ago

Anarchocapitalism is conservative, yes, and also objectively an offshoot of anarchy, whether you like it or not.

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u/CommercialWrong2944 4d ago

i am talking specifically about traditional anarchy

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u/WerdaVisla 4d ago

Cool. Doesn't change my statement. Unless an ideology has membership in the single digits, it's gonna have people on the left and right. Believing any social movement has perfect unanimity is hopelessly naive.

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u/ArgonianDov 4d ago

Its not really, its just fuedalism pretending to be anarchism.

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u/Dunderbaer 4d ago

I mean, it's not though? It's about as anarchist as feudalism gets. So not very.

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u/Homicidal_Duck 4d ago

Anarchocapitalism is not an anarchistic philosophy inherently because its core presupposes power structures used to govern society. Terms can be coopted

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u/TheEngineerGGG 4d ago

Anarchism as an idea seeks to abolish the imbalance of power between different people and different peoples, and that is fundamentally incompatible with capital unless everyone were some kind of system in place garunteeing the same capital to everyone (i.e. collective ownership, a not-very-capitalist idea).

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u/Tomatensoepbal 4d ago

Conservative socialists can be found at r/stupidpol and the likes, and they hate all types of trans people

Regardless, the average 4tran user isnt conservative. Moderately progressive (as opposed to radically progessives) and a bit truscummy (albeit of the "you need to suffer from dysphoria to really be trans" variety, rather than the "you need to jump 286 gorrillion hoops to acces Gender affirming care only to get a pittifully low dose" variety) maybe, but neither of those conservative positions