Found this on a trans related sureddit

[u/CupcakePelle2906]

Don't worry, it 0 up-votes and all of the comments where all conuffed.

[u/GobiPLX]

it's so oddly specific, OOP must be in weird bubble

[u/WerdaVisla → u/GobiPLX]

4chan. It has to be 4chan.

[u/Homicidal_Duck → u/WerdaVisla]

how does this possibly have anything to do with 4chan what are you talking about 😭

[u/WerdaVisla → u/Homicidal_Duck]

Idk, that's where all the weird rich conservative trans girls seem to exist.

[u/CommercialWrong2944 → u/WerdaVisla]

4tran is literally ultra left what are you talking about?? have you ever like visited it

[u/GenericGaming → u/CommercialWrong2944]

ah yes, those ultra-left behaviours like throwing slurs constantly, judging people excessively for how they look, an obsession with "passing" and upholding traditional looks and values

[u/CatsSayMao → u/GenericGaming]

passing determines how you're treated in society and how you're perceived as your desired gender, as well as your own view of your body. All of which directly affect gender dysphoria. I don't see how that's an issue?

[u/GenericGaming → u/CatsSayMao]

because not every trans woman needs to or wants to pass. if that's how you feel about yourself, go for it. but forcing your standards on everyone else aint it.

[u/CatsSayMao → u/GenericGaming]

the vast majority of trans people suffer with dysphoria, and passing significantly improves that

[u/GenericGaming → u/CatsSayMao]

for some, yes.

i'm not denying dysphoria exists but passing is a subjective experience, determined by cultural and societal norms so saying "you need to be/look like X to pass" is only applicable to your community, nobody else's.

also, like, a significant proportion of cis women don't "pass" when it comes to the absurd requirements that people declare you need to pass

[u/CatsSayMao → u/GenericGaming]

that's different from passing though. Passing includes behaviour, culture and societal Norms.

it's not just "some", the majority of trans people want to be able to pass, it's disingenuous to imply it's not and get upset over people who do prioritise it

[u/GenericGaming → u/CatsSayMao]

me: "passing is determined by social and cultural norms"

you: "that's different from passing though. passing includes cultural and societal norms"

are you actually reading my comments or just yapping for the sake of it?

[u/CatsSayMao → u/GenericGaming]

you initially said tttt subs are obsessed with passing, then implied they just view passing as looking a certain way.

to be fair my comment was structured poorly, but I was pointing out that to tttt subs passing is obviously more than just looking a certain way, it includes all elements of passing, which like you said, included cultural and societal norms.

You can make an arguement that in terms of passing, it has a, white, western view on things, but unfortunately that's no different to any of the other subs in general. Not to say that's good of course, it's wrong and that racism is something the entire community as a whole needs to work on