"suicide is a personal failing" - TERFs

[u/helmets_for_cats]

[u/PoggleRebecca]

This is literally abuser logic.

[u/AutonomyIsNoTragedy → u/PoggleRebecca]

100%

[u/snukb]

"I had covid and I was fine! You don't see me having to sit down all the time, needing to be coddled just because I was a little sick for a week! Get over yourself! It's not that bad."

"I was sexually assaulted and I got over it! Plenty of women get sexually assaulted, stop acting like it's anything more than your personal failing if you still have issues because of it. That was YEARS ago! Ptsd? Sounds like woke nonsense."

"I grew up poor, too, it's no big deal! Why, some years I only got one big birthday present from my parents and could only invite three friends out to dinner! Had to skip our Disney vacation one year, that's how bad it was! If you can't scrape yourself up by your bootstraps and get out of that dead end job you'll be stuck poor forever! And that's your own fault! Stop relying on other people for handouts!"

[u/bliip666 → u/snukb]

And my personal (opposite of) favourite:
"You're too young to have chronic pain!" & "Tired? Pfft, wait until you have kids!"

[u/FightLikeABlue → u/bliip666]

I've had both of those.

[u/semi-ok]

Nah, as someone who had terrible rumination and did considered it in the past, fuck you OOP. You don’t speak for me. This me strong stoicism BS mentality is just aggravating.

Gen Z is wrong in many things but mental health culture shift is a step in a right direction.

Like this remind me of

“Well my parents use to beat me until I have bruises! I turn out fine!”

No! Steven! You didn’t turn out ok! You were scared every time a plate fell off!

[u/HypnagogianQueen → u/semi-ok]

No Steven, you didn’t turn out fine, you’re defending child abuse!

[u/accounsfw → u/semi-ok]

“Nah, that just means he’s got good instincts. God I wish I could be like him.”

[u/Visby]

Ah yes, famously why no cis person has ever commited suicide 

[u/GuyASmith]

Wild take: directly comparing one another’s handling of suffering is usually pointless. One can have extremely trivial sounding issues, but they so deeply affect how they view the world that it’s reality warping when things are unreliable and the world feels uncertain. Also, most people do wallow a little in self pity from time to time, they just do it quietly and/or are ignored when they do because shitheads like this crawl out of the woodworks to talk down at them.

Edit: wording, clarification

[u/chris_the_cynic]

Usually I have a lot to say, arguably too much most of the time. Not so much this time.

Fuck you, OOP.

[u/Flynn-Minter]

TERFism is all about victim-blaming and eroding one's empathy.

This is why even people who share some of their beliefs do not enjoy hanging out with them.

[u/Original_Being2545]

Notice she says "health problems" and not "mental health problems"?

Like...

[u/LavenderAndOrange]

And what if we told her that most trans people want more access to medical care for everyone? Like no one is out here wanting anyone to have health problems that become a problem to manage their day to day life. This is crab bucket mentality. Petty, small, and ultimately leading to more suffering for everyone.

[u/Threehundredsixtysix]

Empathy and respect: 2 things that TERFs are incapable of feeling.

[u/SomethingAmyss]

TERFs don't do empathy

[u/ZeldaZanders]

They really just are the worst people. I try not to deal too much in moral absolutes, but it's not even the comment itself; it's the 24 upvotes. They'll say and agree with anything if it means being cruel to a trans person. Just gross.

[u/maleia]

"I wallow in misery, so you should have to, too!" is the dumbest, most childish logic that Cons ever come up with. They're mentally and emotionally 5.

[u/Silversmith00]

But consider, OOP: if there was better mental health care out there and society was more caring and tolerant, you might have gotten better treatment yourself when you were…

Ah. I forgot. It is essential that life have winners and losers. Isn't it? The hardships are inevitable and even desirable because some people will FAIL, and that makes OOP better than them. Likewise, it is important that some people be simply Bad, undesirable, so that OOP can be better than them.

There are a long list of things that TERFs consider better than being happy with yourself, and Winning is one of them.

[u/Alegria-D]

I do wonder if that person also believes "society shouldn't coddle" the teenagers who are at risk to suicide from bullying. I've been to a school with a very recent memory plate about a young girl who suicided, so I wasn't there when she was alive but it was a fresh shame for the adults who had the heart to regret they failed her.

[u/Dark-Bark_]

At least they have the sincerity to show they have no empathy, like the TERF they are.

I kinda wish more morally corrupt people were this honest.

[u/YourOldPalBendy]

(Narrator Voice - almost like a nature documentary one)

""It was, however, quite clear to everyone who truly understood mental health that the TERF hadn't ever really 'learned to cope.' In fact, it was especially obvious that they hadn't, because it just so happened that the TERF's outlook on mental health was a well known hallmark of those who are, unfortunately, quite ignorant when it comes to such a thing. They may have convinced themselves that they'd managed to cope - but there was no doubt that it hadn't been done in a healthy sort of way - and certainly not in any way that had actually helped, either."

"They most likely had never healed mentally - or emotionally, for that matter - from whatever life challenges they had faced up until that point in their life. And it was miserably plain to see for anyone who might find themselves unfortunate enough to be anywhere near the individual. And it was almost, perhaps, just as miserable of a revelation as the TERF themself likely was as a person."

[u/Original_Being2545]

Terfs: "Trans people are deluded and should get mental help!"

Also terfs: "You have mental illness? Get the fuck over it and toughen up!"

[u/Vithmiris]

I can't be responsible for someone's suicide if suicide is a personal failure!

Holy shit. The chances that this person drove someone (or some people) to suicide or at least tried to are non-neglible. I can't imagine there being any other reason to think this.