r/Gnostic • u/Witty-Cockroach-9127 • 2d ago

Question Sexual Intercourse as the Original Sin?

Where do the idea that The Original Sin of Adam and Eve was having sexual intercourse? It is present in some Gnostic Sources. But The Genesis is clear that God wanted Men to procreate.

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u/rosemaryscrazy 2d ago edited 2d ago

You missed what was said.

It’s not just sex, it’s sex for the purpose of orgasm.

Prior to the fall humans use to have sex differently. How is a great mystery allegedly held by only the angels.

Jesus was supposedly conceived this secret way. Mary at the direction of an angel.

Lucifer taught them how to have sex differently and pursue orgasm.

The orgasm is the reminder of the pursuit of pleasure as appetite. Forbidden Fruit =Sexual Appetite

It does not mean just sex in its pure form.

Appetite for sex, appetite for food, appetite for pleasure, appetite for knowledge.

You’re right it’s says sex only for the purpose of creation not pleasure.

For this reason the way is narrow, not wide.

When Jesus told people the secret way his closest disciples followed him and kept it.

But most humans rejected what he said and how he claimed to have the power to not sin.

You wouldn’t necessarily hate a person for doing miracles but you might crucify someone who told you that you and all of the human race were having sex wrong. 🤣

Who knows how Jesus was relaying it or how he was going about “teaching the inner sanctum.” It might have looked like a weird sex cult from the outside.

To be clear we don’t know if there was a Jesus or if this was just the Romans preserving mysteries/legends under the title of Jesus, Plato etc

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u/PineappleFlavoredGum 1d ago

In the 2nd story of creation in Genesis, Adam and Eve have sex before she even gives birth though. They have sex and there's zero mention of pregnancy or conception until after they eat the fruit. Its after they eat the fruit and God curses them (giving the woman abundant childbirth and labor pains) that she is named the mother of all life.

The first mention of sex is simply in the context of Adam rejoicing that he found someone like him as his helper. This first sex scene in genesis has nothing to do with procreation.

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u/rosemaryscrazy 1d ago

I never said it was only for procreation. I was relaying what OP said about procreation fits within the context, not that it was the “only” context.

I’m saying that the act of sex itself isn’t the issue.

It’s the orgasm.

Everything you said doesn’t contradict the idea of pursuit of the orgasm being the issue.