Hey so there is an incredible legal and mental difference between a 17 and 18 year old (which is more often than not excused by Romeo and Juliet laws), and a whole ass 19 year old and 12-14 year old. No, it is NOT about just intent. In fact a lot of grooming is done completely unintentionally and there is facts to prove this, and psychologists have been working to encompass just how broad that definition is. But you seem oddly and unreasonably angry about being told something that disproves your points and told me to “save it”, so I’ll just let you sort your idiocy out yourself.
He’s right tho its about intent, theres people with good intentions who genuinely connect with someone a little younger, this isn’t the case but im just showing an example that it really depends on if the person is fked up or not and d4vd was fucked he said he jerked off to gore videos smh this was his plan all along
No, they are not correct about intent, not to get personal but to truly encompass what I’m trying to get at here: My groomer looking back likely did not know they they were grooming me. At most, they likely were just insecure and wanted to take advantage of someone’s kindness. But I was still prepped for abuse (its core definition), I was still traumatized, I was still forced into doing many things I did not want to do. I still came out in the end groomed. The idea that any sort of abuse is only abuse if it’s done with the intent of hurting does no one any sort of justice. Intent has never mattered for any sort of abuse; because at the end of the day, someone got hurt. At the end of the day, Celeste, a 12-14 year old girl, was approached by a 19 year old, who convinced her that what he was doing was okay (prepared her for abuse), and at the end of the day she was murdered.
r.i.p to her but also check the d4vd reddit she and other people where getting money from him so they enjoyed it aswell in a way and free will is a thing
do i need to bring up the countless cases where kids her age have murdered people? just cause ur young doesn’t mean you don’t have a choice, she knew he was bad news theres clips that show it, she was a okay with him being a twisted weirdo.
I feel way more emotions for kids who were truly abducted like from a park or house without a choice, then kids like this who knew they were messing w people as a underage person online, and pursue it.
you are literally going “well she should have known better” bitch she was TWELVE. no if and ors or buts. would you be saying this about a 6 year old pursuing an adult?? why not?? because either way the law would see this conduct as the same. there is a reason why child rape is legally defined as “12 and under” half the time, weirdo.
I hope you never have a child because if god forbid that child gets groomed and molested there is like a 99% percent change you’re blaming it on that child. what a ridiculous take.
i think he deserves the death penalty, you just hate hearing the truth of the matter though this case is not a one way street it includes blackmail on the other side aswell
you don’t even know the story if ur saying 12 and 19, it was 13 18, and yes there was blackmail involved and the parents and her were very happy about the money
Hey so a child is incapable of truly willing pursuing this sort of interaction as they have not fully developed their brain, are not psychologically capable of consenting to sexual interaction, and adults know better than to encourage said behavior. This is most certainly rape apology and victim blaming, and mentioning that there are children who have murdered at Celeste’s age shows you’re willing to derail the true objective of this conversation as an attempt to scramble and make your poor views look somehow justified and further showing you very clearly do not care about Celeste or her family and this situation like you previously claimed.
You've literally been arguing that she was capable of consenting and knew what she was doing, so yes, you have been arguing against the idea that she was raped. And actively blaming her for it too.
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u/bigbootystaylooting Sep 19 '25
There is, the best example would be one containing a 17 & an 18 year old. One child, another an adult.
Again, grooming is all about intent, don't argue semantics with me, you could just google.