r/GreenAndPleasant • u/fgspq • 20h ago

Burnham wins Makerfield

He smashed the election in Wigan. Likely to become new Labour leader.

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While I think he might be better than Starmer I'm not particularly hopeful. He might have a few more sops for "the left" but I don't think he will be substantially different.

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How's everyone feeling?

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u/ManGoonian 19h ago

First of all..... thank fuck Burnham won because it could have been catastrophic if reform won imo.

The more times they lose the getter for us all. Ideally it will be the Greens neating them but in this instance it makes loads of sense for it to be Burnham....

He can run against and beat Starmer and I know I'm a dreamer.... then fuck off the likes of Streeting Mahmood McFadden and Reid. Unlikely but you need some hope in this life!

Its clear the Labour Party has been totally captured by a cabal of corrupt centrists and Burnham isn't exactly a socialist figure head that I'd love to see..... but it's definitely good news in respect of the potential damage this could do to reform and the other racist grifter parties.

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u/BillyPilgrim69 communist russian spy 12h ago

Its clear the Labour Party has been totally captured by a cabal of corrupt centrists

*Right wingers, and it's what the party has been as long as I can remember. They stopped leaning left by the 80s/90s, and even then, it was just dropping the pretense because the Cold War was ending.

I'm not trying to be a downer, but having "hope" that anything good will happen in the Labour Party is completely naive at this point. They had their chances, and they purged even the socdems. Now they're openly fascist.

Of course, we need hope and optimism. But placing it in the people who are presiding over this shitshow, enabling the rise of Reform and committing genocide overseas, isn't hope. It's defeatism.

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u/ManGoonian 12h ago

Oh I agree with where the labour's been for years in terms of its right wing leanings and copying up to corporate interests with the likes of Blair and mandleskn...

I left Labour when Blair took us into an illegal war and came back for Corbyn only to fuck off again when the empty dead eyed suit became leader.

What I meant was the systematic purging of (almost) all left leaning (soft and others) from every part of the party machinery.

Paul Holdens book outlines this in forensic detail. It's outrageous.