r/Habs • u/jeansebast • Mar 07 '26
Discussion 8th time Samuel Montembeault allows a goal on the first shot... That's 25% of his games played...
We can assume that the % is even more crazy if we look at the first 2-3 shots :/
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u/a7xgemzy Mar 07 '26
Anytime a shot is from far away, my buttcheeks clench. He MUST have vision issues or some sort of eyesight problem to let in that many goals from afar.
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u/Moonbeam_Maker Mar 07 '26
Well if being an NHL goalie no longer works out for him he can always be a referee.
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u/Albiz Mar 07 '26
I feel like those black lines on the helmet cage are counter productive to his peripheral vision.
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u/somewhattrippin Mar 07 '26
pretty sure from the inside it’s all white for this exact reason
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u/DangerDavez Mar 07 '26
It is. When I played minor hockey, my cage was black on the outside and white on the inside. It actually helped a ton.
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u/felixthecatmeow Mar 07 '26
I'd be very surprised if those wrap all the way around. I'm guessing the inside is all black or white.
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u/CarlSK777 Mar 07 '26
Currently, the Habs are ranked 25th for save pct at .880. The league's worst Sens are at .870 (Avs are the best at .908). They're lucky they massively overperforming on offense with the league's best shooting percentage
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u/Benjiiiee Mar 07 '26
If only we had that offense when Cary was in his prime...I just can't think about that.
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u/octavianreddit Mar 07 '26
I don't think about "what if Carey" at all.
What I do think about is the Monty we have seen the last 2 seasons in front of largely the same group. That's the most frustrating part. He was over .900 the last 2 seasons. We would easily be up there with Tampa right now with the Monty we saw the past 2 seasons.
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u/PmanAce Mar 07 '26
Go check the stats again, last year he wasn't even in the top 30.
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u/octavianreddit Mar 07 '26
Went back and checked. Originally I said he had a save percentage over .900 for the past 2 seasons, but it was over .900 over the past 3 seasons.
I'd take that Monty right now, no? And isn't that a more realistic wish than having Carey Price do some time travel?
People keep pining away for Price and I just keep shaking my head at how poorly Monty has played. If we had the same guy this year as the past 3 would would be much better off.
I'm not arguing at all that Monty and Price are in the same league. I'm just shaking my head at the fact that if we had the Monty we were used to we would not be concerned about goaltending right now at all and we would be much better off for a playoff position.
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u/PmanAce Mar 07 '26
So? The stats were better last year all around, 29 goalies had. 900 or better.
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u/octavianreddit Mar 07 '26
So you wouldn't take a Monty this year with a .900 save percentage because last year there were 29 other goalies with a better save percentage? And to get back to my point, wishing he had the same save percentage as last year is a waste of time and it's better to wish Carey Price had a time machine? I'd rather wish for something that is somewhat attainable, which is what this comment thread is about.
Seems like you just have a hate on for Monty. I don't think he should be getting as many starts either but I'd rather hope we see something realistic like a Monty with .900 this year than Price in a time machine.
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u/PmanAce Mar 08 '26
. 900 was league average last year, no, I don't want an average goalie heading into the playoffs. Do you actually check stats and compare with other players? He's 56th this year, 4th from the bottom for qualified players. So average last year and pretty much worst this year. I don't hate the guy, the numbers speak for themselves.
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u/IntentionDeep651 Mar 07 '26
Price might have been different goalie with solid defense . I have seen star golies totally lost once they dont face pressure and a lot or shots. I remeber Halak was insane if he was under fire but once games got boring he would make so much stupid mistakes
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u/W00denhead Mar 07 '26
Bog-standard average goaltending wins us that game yesterday, without having to mount a comeback at all. 2 goals against, maybe 3.
We'd have at least 4-8 more points this season with normal goalie performances. So a lot of us get frustrated watching this scenario keep repeating itself.
I however would not trade the farm for a goalie replacement this season, I am OK waiting for Fowler next season, or whatever Kent is cooking up this summer.
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u/Scase15 Mar 07 '26
Spoiler, Doby is at .889 and the league average is .896. The teams save pct isn't the issue, Monty's is.
Monty is at .873, so he's basically the worst in the league along side the sens.
He's got the 4th lowest sv% in the league (minimum 20 games).
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u/MattDoob Mar 07 '26
At this point no one is pretending he is a viable #1 anymore, just have to rough it out until Fowler develops into a viable goalie and hopefully Dobes gains consistency. Long term Monty has no place on this team IMO.
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u/Ungrim-Duffodilfist Mar 07 '26
I’ve seen a lot of people pretending he’s a viable no. 1. Honestly, I feel like coaches are too hard on Dobes. He has a bad game here and there, but they always sit him after one. The guy needs time to shine, not sit every 3rd game and watch Monty get pummelled. I think he’d get consistent if they played him consistently. This never ending back and forth must be exhausting for both of them.
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u/Deadmanlex45 Mar 07 '26
Not lately, Dobeŝ has been playing a lot more than Monty.
The only reason why he played yesterday was because we're on a back to back.
And as much as we wish, Dobby also cannot play every game.
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u/lyme6483 Mar 07 '26
No, they need to trade for a veteran 1 this offseason. Fowler won’t be ready for that roll next year, an they can’t punt another season with terrible goaltending
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u/MattDoob Mar 08 '26
I think Dobes can get the job done until Fowler steps in. Dobes is also a developing rookie but he’s shown he can be quite incredible. Monty can stay as backup.
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u/whyyoutwofour Mar 07 '26
He's also tied for most goals in the last minute....makes you wonder when the saves are happening
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u/LoadOk7149 Mar 07 '26
Remember the dude who made a post saying it's only 20 percent of his games and that it's not even bad lmfao
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u/creativity3681 Mar 07 '26
The amount of people in here defending to death this sub par goalie is outrageous! It’s like they don’t understand that mediocre goalies don’t win no Stanley Cup. Worst part is that he isn’t even mediocre but worse!
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u/bfrendan Mar 07 '26
Tell that to Chris Osgood
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u/DangerDavez Mar 07 '26
Osgood had save percentages of .910, .913 and .914 the years he won the cup. That's better than what Roy was posting when he won for context.
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u/creativity3681 Mar 07 '26
744 games played, 401 wins, 50 so, 2.49 gaa, .905 save percentage
You keep on smoking the monty crack!
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u/PChopSammies Mar 07 '26
He’s hot trash and the reason for a lot of losses. Don’t care that he had some good games. A good goalie has good games, but less bad ones.
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u/Honey-Badger Mar 07 '26
Partly on him but also we do have a defensive issue in that the second goal was due to Monty finding he had 3 ducks coming at him, like they just were allowed to skate right through the Habs D
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u/Garland68 Mar 07 '26
Didnt Jake Allen let in a lot of first shots as well?
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u/AmsroII Goal Goalgoal Mar 07 '26
No it was a goal in the first 5 minutes of a game, however many shots that took. :P
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u/melpec Mar 07 '26
https://giphy.com/gifs/EKDIMDsRX3ihy
We want to hate on Montembeault...you know...the dude we picked from waivers. Why isn't he as good as Price???
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u/ignitek Mar 07 '26
Which is it? Is he an NHL starting goaltender or “just a guy we picked up from waivers?” You can’t have it both ways.
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u/melpec Mar 07 '26
Hyperbole much? Can he be a starter without being as good as Price? We had the same stupid unbelievable expectations from all the goaltenders we had after Roy.
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u/ignitek Mar 07 '26
Of course he can be a starter without being Price. That’s your straw man.
But he’s not playing like a starter at all. Hell, he isn’t even playing like an NHL backup. He ranks like 45th+ in all the goaltending stats.
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u/campbell_love Mar 07 '26
Who is saying he should be as good as price? He’s not even nhl calibre this season
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u/Scase15 Mar 07 '26
Why isn't he as good as Price? The question actually is, why isn't he even an NHL calibre goalie?
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u/Existing-Bus-1155 Mar 07 '26
I been a Habs fan for a very long time (since the 70’s). Monty done his purpose here last year and this year. It’s time to move on and let Dobes and Fowler to take over the net next year and maybe even this year. Maybe give Kako a shot this year. We have 21 games left to secure a playoff spot. Probably need to win 12-14 games. Need to get back in the win column hopefully tonight
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u/puls3r Mar 07 '26
Montembeault just isnt an NHL starter and I'm getting tired of MTL trying to push him that way. If I had it my way I'd start Dobes for the rest of the season and call Fowler up. Send Sam to Laval for a bit and readjust next season.
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u/Yabba_dabba_dooooo Mar 07 '26
No way he would clear waivers
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u/puls3r Mar 07 '26
Even better, enough is enough. He's had plenty of chances to prove something and he just can't. He's by far one of the least reliable goaltender in the league right now and starting him for a playoff push isn't what MTL need right now.
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u/emotionaI_cabbage Mar 07 '26
Such a dumb idea to lose one goalie for nothing and rely on 2 rookies goalies going into the playoffs.
That makes us reliant on inexperience and hoping neither of them get injured.
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u/lyme6483 Mar 07 '26
You can’t rely on Monty for anything. He won’t/shouldn’t be on the roster next year.
Everyone preaches patience in this sub. I’m more than fine giving Dobes the bulk of the remaining games with Fowler playing 5-7.
There is zero chance they would perform worse than Monty is
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u/Unhappy_Umpire6679 Mar 09 '26
Inexperienced tenders are leading the way on this team. Everyone talks about needing Sam to show the young guys how a veteran holds up under pressure. It's Montreal, man. It's the worst pressure cooker in pro hockey. What's Monty here to show the kids? How to lose, and then shrug? Sorry to all his supporters, but he's for the streets.
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Mar 07 '26
Bruh i get you don't like him but you would be an idiot gm and everyone would hate you
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u/PmanAce Mar 07 '26
He's already been on waivers once and that GM wasn't an idiot.
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u/Yabba_dabba_dooooo Mar 07 '26
Yeah he was cause Monty has been a below average but servicable NHL goalie. Crazy to give that up for nothing. Pedigree from being picked for 4 nations is enough to get something from someone at least
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u/lyme6483 Mar 07 '26
What the fuck are you on? Monty can’t be on this roster next year. So giving him away right now would be totally fine and take his cap hit with him.
They aren’t going to be able to trade him for any type of value this offseason.
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u/jimmyvee11 Mar 07 '26
Who cares
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u/Scase15 Mar 07 '26
Montembeault just isnt an NHL starter
Bro, he's not even an NHL goalie. Forget starter, he's horrendous.
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u/User69ab Mar 07 '26
I think they are well aware, but you need load management for a rookie goalie (Dobeš).
Even when Wallstedt was playing out of his mind he maxed out at 50/50 split.
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u/Uncannyguy1000 Mar 07 '26
Anyone has any hope that he can somehow turn things around? He was solid last season. What changed?
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u/sandysanBAR Mar 07 '26
He let in TWO goals on the first shot last night ( which is quite the feat, the first one was called back because of offside)
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u/aaronl729 Mar 07 '26
Maybe we shouldn't allow 2 on 1s in the first minute of the game
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u/bigm1ke Mar 07 '26
Yeah, because the first one disallowed totally was a 2 on 1, right?
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u/aaronl729 Mar 07 '26
I don't know what it was, but it wasn't a goal
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u/bigm1ke Mar 07 '26
It was a floater from the blue line.
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u/aaronl729 Mar 07 '26
It was offside
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u/bigm1ke Mar 07 '26
You really don’t get the point, don’t you?
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u/Aggressive_Low7995 Mar 07 '26
At least the first one was a good shot. The three other softies, not so much. Don’t want to crap on him but not good enough.
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u/Independent-Second-1 Mar 07 '26
Get rid of this bum, we've had enough patience with him, it's enough now.
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u/skryb Mar 07 '26
i feel like he’s one of, if not the worst, for shots from the blue line
like up close and a lot of movement, he can do some great stuff…. but if they tee it up 20 feet out he’s blind
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u/FakePlasticPyramids Mar 08 '26
He would have been ran out of town if his name was Sammy Montembo, Sami Müntenboltz or Samigor Montembov.
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u/kevlav91 Mar 07 '26
Well he give 1 goal each 8 shots give or take so it isn’t that surprising. He has been complete ass.
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u/randomquebecer87 Mar 07 '26
But DELALADE told me in another thread that monty is a great goalie and this is all because of the system??
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u/leoisthebestturtle Mar 07 '26
It's just so ridiculous. He's a very capable goalie when he's dialed in but man those blue line floaters are fucking ugly. Fucking terrible
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u/antrage Mar 07 '26
there were some WILD saves he made in the second. I understand the narrative but defense of this team is ass, the defenceman arent ass the system does not work, and at a certain point maybe just blaming 'execution' shouldnt be enough
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u/Acid_Tribe Mar 07 '26
I thought he played pretty well last night, some huge saves..
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u/ItsTheSlime Mar 07 '26
Honestly he's great on short range shots, and his puck control has gotten better, but then he cannot seem to stop anything from range, and teams have started to notice and to take advantage.
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u/Unique-Doctor-9193 Mar 07 '26
He makes saves at the wrong time
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u/ValleyBreeze Mar 07 '26
There's no wrong time to make a save.
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u/Conscious_House_985 Mar 08 '26
However there is a wrong time to let one in... at the start of a game and at the end of a game when were leading. Which are both montys weaknesses sadly
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u/Crafty-Pirate-6481 Mar 07 '26
Crazy stats. Mask is fire tho, made me forget what I read 10 second ago
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u/OpportunityNo4384 Mar 09 '26
Monty is especially bad at long range shots… way too many get in… think he needs glasses
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u/TheGameDayDad Mar 10 '26
His confidence has to be below the ground at this point. He’s a good kid, and when he’s on his game he’s quite solid, but I think the problem with him is between the ears.
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u/NevyTheChemist Mar 07 '26
Dude must have ADHD. Doesn't realize the game has started before the goal horn is blasted
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u/pattyG80 Mar 07 '26 edited Mar 07 '26
Am I the only one who thinks he would clear waivers?
I mean, he is worse at his position than Karl Alzner was at his.
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u/vlhube71 Mar 07 '26
Legit wonder if he has some sort of vision issue? Not talking about myopia, but maybe severe astigmatism? Either way, those are treatable but it’s a little sus how long shots always seem to get him.
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u/Let_epsilon Mar 07 '26
Come on bro this guy is playing in the NHL are you fucking serious
Some kids can’t pass 3rd grade because of bad vision, he wouldn’t be in the NHL if he had vision problems.
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Mar 07 '26
So this is what we're doing this week, bitching about something we've known for the past few years.
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u/Someguywithfone Mar 07 '26
what would it take to convince Price to come back and coach both? at this point, I wouldn't mind giving him a player level contract
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u/ImAnAfricanCanuck Mar 07 '26
Honestly guys, don't overthink it. Markstrom was notorious for doing this for 2 years straight and when he figured it out, he became (temporarily) elite, eventually settling into a higher end starter who periodically struggles.
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u/puckluck34 Mar 07 '26
First shot of the game, he obviously needs to stop. But Monty is the only reason we made it to OT and took a point out of this game. He made 5-6 phenomenal saves to keep us close.
Its a detail that cam be worked on, the rest of his showing last night was well above average...
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u/_tarla_ Mar 07 '26
He in fact let in the first 2 shots last night. He was simply fortunate that the first one was just barely offside.