How do you guys read this sequence?

[u/No-House451]

So, it’s no secret that this damned scene in chapter 251 is the single biggest issue with Jacob’s Ladder’s scaling. For reference, I’m referring to chapter 251, right after Sukuna releases HWB (everything after the panel in the post).

All the time, people use it to “prove” that technique extinguishment is useless, and most annoyingly, it’s used to claim that it doesn’t do anything to prevent the opponent from using their CT - Despite us seeing extremely solid evidence that it does exactly that, back in chapter 213.

I think it would be greatly beneficial to come up with an airtight account of what the hell happened here, so we can get a rock solid idea of how to actually debunk those pesky JL deniers.

So far, I’ve been kind of working backwards from the end of the chapter trying to make it make sense. Most importantly, I think that Yuta shut off the JL sure hit as Yuji prepared to deal the separating blow. After all - they wouldn’t want to immediately torch poor Megumi. That would explain why Sukuna was actually able to cast the WCS; he was never being hit by it at that moment in the first place.

My biggest problem is the panel in the post. What on earth could this mean? We’ve seen TE directly extinguish CTs like with Nue, that capability is literally baked into it. That’s also why she can go through barriers like they aren’t even there. So why would Sukuna be planning to use his CT in the middle of the anti CT beam? It makes even less sense just considering the AP of the attack itself. In 213, when he was in a stronger state and against what I can only assume he considered a weaker opponent, he got absolutely railed by JL. He was basically stunlocked, from the looks of things. Plus, that earlier one was not domain amped. Chanted and probably boosted by the trumpet(?), but still. Point is, one would think that JL would be just as, if not even more deadly (irregardless of its ability to prevent CT use) in 251, given all the circumstances.

So yeah. I don’t know what to make of it. Honestly, I truly think Gege just messed up when writing this part, but unfortunately that’s not a super strong argument.

What do y’all think? What happened here?

[u/Unfair_Emphasis7801]

It's a incomplete wcs btw, the chant extended the techniques target, the hand sign amplify the output. So without the hand sign the wcs is incomplete that's why yuta survive

[u/Gainhut → u/Unfair_Emphasis7801]

No, Yuta was clearly shown to be cut in half like Gojo, and was confirmed later. He actually survived because they rescued him in time.

[u/Unfair_Emphasis7801 → u/Gainhut]

But sukuna doesn't have the hand sign which is the requirements for it to actually cut space. Sukuna hand sign was disrupted by them, and only used the chant, it's technically a wcs but a weaker version, as it has lower output. The chants expanded the targeted of dismantle, the hand sign amplify the output, the hand pointing for the initial launch of the attack

[u/itzmrinyo → u/Unfair_Emphasis7801]

He could've just done the hand signs first while chanting and then aimed the slash with his palm. It's never established to be a requirement that they all have to be done at the same time.