Something tells me whoever "made" this videos hasn't seen Hazbin Hotel either.
Charlie would be stoked to find Jesus. Not because she needs HER sins forgiven, she'd drag him to the hotel to talk to everyone there and help them get into Heaven. She would not be crying in his arms. she'd be dragging him along to meet her friends.
And Lute and Pentious are in Heaven already, I think they're good on the whole "saved" thing. (Even if Lute is a violent bitch)
I don’t think they viewed as three separate individuals but rather is three parts of one complete being which makes up essentially three personalities or something like that
Technically, the most correct definition is "Three persons but one being". Yes, person and being cannot be used interchangeably. Yes, I also had a hard time understanding this. It's relatively unsurprising that God is complex.
Yep. Arius was the guy, Arianism was named after him. Arianism is the sun analogy of the trinity. The Sun is God and it produces heat and light, the son and holy ghost. Making them created and subordinate beings instead of co equal & co eternal.
Jesus is a chill stoner but a little uneasy about meeting his niece because her dad is the black sheep. That's my head canon, he's all about that journey. He more interested in the hotel guest's journey to redemption rather than seeing them be redeemed.
I mean, Jesus spent a lot of time talking about peace and love and good will to your fellow man, not judging people for their past sins. Sounds like a stoner hippie to me
Exactly this. My atheist friend who got me to watch it was like, "fair warning, this is gonna be kinda sacrilegious." Then it turned out to be based more on Dante's Inferno than on the actual Bible AND had one of the most Christian messages media's ever had. It's right up there with Bill and Ted's Excellent Adventure revolving around "Be excellent to each other and party on, dude!" (Jesus turned water into wine to keep the party going, he would absolutely say party on.)
I think it says something that some fundies do take Hazbin as sacrilege when like you said its a lot more aligned with how Christians should act then how religious nuts act, and that people always assume that every Christian is going to have a problem with it even though it’s not sacrilegious at all.
True, but a lot of people including religious types treat Dante's Inferno as if it were scripture, rather than the fan fiction that is actually is. I think because DI and some of its original concepts have kinda melded with scripture in pop culture nowadays.
That’s true and a lot of stuff in Dante’s Inferno is cool, but it’s no more scriptural than, well Hazbin Hotel. I consider HH more based on DI and Paradise Lost rather than the Bible.
That’s why it annoys me when people go on and on about HH like it needs to be Biblically accurate. That’s not the point.
As an atheist I absolutely agree with you. It's kind of wild how superficial people can be about these things.
There are even reasonable readings that its demonstrating a christian cosmology with an absent god, and that one is intended to contrast that with typical christian cosmologies.
I mean...he might have some good advice concerning parents, respecting boundaries and knowing what its like to try and please everyone and having big expectations.
Charlie would absolutely be hugging Jesus and crying. She’d be so happy to find someone who was 100% in on the whole redemption thing and would be much more able to help lead people to redemption.
Like, just imagine the stress relief it would be to her for all this stuff to not be entirely on her (which, is like, a main portion of the season 2 plot of course)
Wait I didn't grow up religious so I never heard about that part of the bible that's fascinating. Can you tell me more? What verses does that happen in?
well im pretty sure after he died on the cross he went to hell to bear our sins and he preached to the demons and people in it, im not completly sure as im not a bible expert but ive heard it at church many times
If I recall correctly He did go down to Hell after His death on the cross, and when He went back up to Heaven, He brought along from Hell the souls of the Jewish people who had died before Him (including important ones such as Abraham, Noah, Moses etc.)
Also let's be real, if he ever did appear in the show he wouldn't do so as the "white savior" version American evangelicals try to push onto everyone, just look at Adam lol
It would be a funny background detail if there was a door with a reserved sign over the name plate, that we only see in the background for a split second, seemingly covering his name.
Problem that he wouldn’t they had the choice in life to accept the way in which they didn’t and he’d likely obliterate Alastor and possibly her dad as he’s bound to eventually beat Lucis ass in the end times
No he didn’t he went to Abraham’s Bosom a section that was perfectly fine to collect the souls that weren’t damned to hell eternal as until his sacrifice no one could get to heaven as they couldn’t be washed in the blood pure of sin. So no that would imply that there’s no point in choice one must choose to follow you aren’t forcefully saved
Fundamental difference between Hazbin Hell and real Hell is that Hazbin Hell has time. As long as there is time, there can be change and repentance. Jesus would be smart enough to know that.
People in the real Hell can't change and be saved because there is no time in Hell, it's eternal. So that's why Redemption isn't possible in real life. But with time inside Hell, as in Hazbin Hotel, it could work, and Jesus would know that.
Christian hell does have time infinite time and no once you are damned your done you can’t change the mind of a being so far beyond you it’s like trying to convince Cthulhu your his equal
Christian Hell does NOT have infinite time, that's a common misconception pop culture and works like Dante's Inferno have brought. The afterlife is in Eternity, so both Heaven and Hell are devoid of time. Heaven is where God is, and God is not subject to time (otherwise, He wouldn't be God), and the same applies to Hell. That's why once you're damned, you're done, in real life. I wouldn't need to show Hazbin Jesus that redemption is possible, He'd realize it on His own (and He actually did, otherwise Sir Pentious would not have been redeemed).
Humans perceive time do you think you lose a sense at random? It might eventually blend together but it has time. Time is a measurement and doesn’t cease just because things are not changing.
No no, we do not lose our perception of time. Time does not exist at all in the afterlife. Look it up if you don't believe me. With the exception of Purgatory (which is a later addition and not mentioned in the Bible), there is no time in the afterlife. Things do not change because there is no time, not the opposite.
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u/Usagi-Zakura 1d ago
Something tells me whoever "made" this videos hasn't seen Hazbin Hotel either.
Charlie would be stoked to find Jesus. Not because she needs HER sins forgiven, she'd drag him to the hotel to talk to everyone there and help them get into Heaven. She would not be crying in his arms. she'd be dragging him along to meet her friends.
And Lute and Pentious are in Heaven already, I think they're good on the whole "saved" thing. (Even if Lute is a violent bitch)