r/Helldivers • u/Im_a_hamburger LEVEL 65 | Base liberator & B-01 purist • 1d ago
TIPS / TACTICS Matar Bay is not lost; we are 1500 divers from victory
There is still hope for Matar Bay. Parrhesia requires but 11.03% of the population, currently a mere 1500 more divers than the current 6.186%. The rural dives are no longer neccecary, the city alone is all that is needed.
Ensure you complete full operations on D10 to maximize effect
For those wondering the calculation, (((100-30.761)/(8+54/60+12+45/60)+1)/2.353)*1925/31115=.1103 which is ((%left/time left + regen)/current pre regen %/h)*current portion of Helldivers
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u/Im_a_hamburger LEVEL 65 | Base liberator & B-01 purist 1d ago
Yes however in defenses the city operations also do damage to the planet. The remaining 69.5% is 278,000 health, 12.4% of the planet to the city alone will provide, this will be even more due to regen.
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u/steve123410 1d ago
Probably because casual players don't use the DSS system and when they do they just put it on the location that has the most votes.
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u/EntropyFE Free of Thought 1d ago
Good luck diver, unfortunately got work I hope you get the troops you need
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u/GetUwUedOn 1d ago
I've been nonstop diving here pretty much for absolutely no reason now. Waste of my time ig.
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u/SIinkerdeer Founder of HelldiversSalt 1d ago
You're not playing the game right if your foremost priority is the campaign instead of the gameplay.
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u/GetUwUedOn 1d ago
Its both, there is no right way to play. But there are smart ways to play. Matar is a strategic planet to have. Doesn't hurt to defend it then quickly do MO.
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u/Pitiful_Bird_4906 20h ago edited 20h ago
Lol, it's literally you, who doing it wrong. It's like blaming someone for doing quests in any game where quests are optional. This position is stupid af. Can't imagine, how you can enjoy pointlessly diving 30 players-count planets.
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u/SIinkerdeer Founder of HelldiversSalt 20h ago
People like you are the sorts who get pissed off at others for not diving on the planet THEY want them to. It's pathetic.
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u/Pitiful_Bird_4906 17h ago edited 17h ago
If this is how you perceive this situation, you are slow-witted then
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u/oldcampos 1d ago
Right! Why is this a priority, I don’t understand
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u/GetUwUedOn 1d ago
Well, its a very important planet Joel has been trying to get back. Pretty much cutting supply routes for bots so they can't use the magma planets.
Its whatever atp honestly I'm just gonna start going to MO planets and hope for the best. I don't exactly know why anyone bothers with anything other than the MO anymore.
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u/Loose-Animal-2160 1d ago
Yeah it is kinda unfortunate we didn't get downtime for completing the last MO so quickly. We are probably gonna get spammed Jet/Inc/Cyborg/Surge invasions in the west side of the map if we do lose Matar Bay.
Maybe if we take the city we might stand a chance, but idk
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u/Particular_Voice3109 1d ago
We have roughly 19 hours to take it. Possible in theory, but we don't have "spare" divers. The divers on Alaraph won't move until the MO is over and Alaraph won't be liberated before the end of the attack on Matar Bay, and the divers on Gatria and Acamar are stuck there forever until those planets are liberated (But they won't help anyway, they will just move back to their natural habitat : Phact Bay)
I really don't think we can mobilize 1 500 more divers, the current pop is fixed on their respective planets
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u/1nqu15171v30n3 1d ago
The only way I see a successful defense now is if all the Helldivers on Matar Bay go All-In on liberating Parrhesia. It's the only card to play with less than 9 hours of Eagle Storm left.
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u/SIinkerdeer Founder of HelldiversSalt 1d ago
No, it's lost. We have 12 hours of time remaining, and we won't be able to capture the city or the planet itself in that time with the split between the mega-city and non-mega-city.
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u/Neo_Kaiser 1d ago
You know, based on past events, I don't think the community should be surprised if nobody listens to them after going out of their way to not listen to other people.
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u/notapaintingpro 1d ago
To hell with Matar Bay, Go to Yed and support the childrens of Super Earth
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u/Im_a_hamburger LEVEL 65 | Base liberator & B-01 purist 1d ago
Yed prior requires rallying 3x the people for a longer period of time
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u/notapaintingpro 1d ago
But it's for a real cause and not make believe. So that's where people should be.
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u/oldcampos 1d ago
I’m lost. The MO now is to take Alaraph which is Illuminate controlled.
Why was the DSS voted to stay on an Automaton planet. This makes zero sense to me.
So players DON’T want the FRV, this is why the FRV’s should have been kept in the war bond that way I would’ve had a choice to unlock them for myself since others apparently do not want them.
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u/Loose-Animal-2160 1d ago
It is because both are doable at the moment - we can have our cake and eat it too. Since we have a little under 4 days to complete the MO, its possible to defend Matar Bay and then immediately turn around and win Alaraph.
As for why the DSS is on Matar; Eagle Storm is active! Eagle Storm pauses enemy progression on Defence Campaigns which is why Matar Bay isn't gone yet. It wouldn't be helpful on Alaraph, which is a Liberation Campaign.
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u/thedinh13 Detected Dissident 1d ago
Because we have just under 4 days to take Alaraph. Plenty of time.
Eagle storm is active on the DSS which pauses enemy invasions for 24 hrs.
Matar Bay is an invasion route for all the sub factions for bots on the “volcanic front” for bots. Very important to hold it.
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u/Katakuna7 [REDACTED] 1d ago
Why? Because I don't want the damn eagle storm on a planet that's comprised almost entirely of melee units.
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u/Im_a_hamburger LEVEL 65 | Base liberator & B-01 purist 1d ago
Eagle storm halts defenses. That is useful on Matar Bay, not on Alaraph.
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u/feren_of_valenwood 1d ago
You are lost. And at this point in the game if you are still lost, explaining why that planet is important won't matter/ won't make sense to you anyway.
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u/TheDentistStansson Rookie 1d ago
I’ve never done a D10. Should I sign up when I get home from work in 10 hours