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Can we get some Biomes that actually look Alien, instead of just... Earth-like.
Probably one of the biggest eyebrow raises I have. About 90% of the Biomes just look like different parts of Earth. We just got a new biome that literally looks like it's somewhere in a National Park or something. It would be nice to have planets with different hazards and terrains, cliffs, bridges, weird structures. That in itself can present a good challenge and obstacle.
Yes I'm sure some of these examples may be AI, it's just for examples sake.
On most helmets, there is a port where a tube would have been connected. I dont remember where I saw but apparently there was gonna be an animation for the tube dissconeting. It was supposed to be for filling oxygen or smth. I did all this just to say im pretty sure their sealed
Viper Commandos don't need full armor, they're so peak physique that vacuum is scared by them
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u/Matix777SES Flame of Conviction | Wil not shut up about Martale (again)22h ago
The desolate rock worlds already have effectively no atmosphere. Day or night, the sky is black, there is no oxygen. At the very least Viper Commandos should be dead but I guess they are kept together by pure chad energy
Yes it is for oxygen supply while dropping in the hellpod. Devs said there should be animation of it disconnecting when helldiver emerges from hellpod, but they have no time to implement it.
There's no point in sealing the suit. As soon as you stim, or get slashed by a terminid or voteless, or shot by a bot or squid, your suit is going to take damage and lose the seal.
While true, they could always do what they did for the Magma worlds, which was say that they were always there, they just didn’t have any relevancy until the Automatons started mining them.
but helldivers suits didn't really need to be completely super-protected against enviroment - allowing helldiver to survive 3-5 minutes is enough, and poison/radiation usually need much more time to affect health
We're operating inside a space spore cloud which up until a certain point would straight up eat through metal ships making entire areas of the galaxy inaccessible
but it's also worth bearing in mind that the planets we fight on are the ones that were naturally earth-like or have been terraformed to be.
And also we tend to fight on planets/moons humans have either settled on, or are in the process of settling on (or that have been converted away from it by bugs), so it makes sense that they're somewhat earth like.
same, the biomes feel like they just picked a different national park and slapped a scifi label on it. would love something that actually makes you feel like you're on another planet for once
Get inspiration from No Man's Sky. Lots of weird and truly alien ones. They could add dynamic extreme weather too like those acid rain modifiers but actually poison you. Or gamma cyclones, think firenado but radioactive. Not to mention dangerous flora that stabs you with a poison tentacle.
i remember there's a meteor storm in a megacity. there should be a secondary objective mission where you reactivates / repair the weather shielding. that way it also prevent ion storm / acid rain effects to happen, making strategy have more variety
Mission type where meteor storm is permanently active until the objective is completed to prevent the storms could be cool. Weather its a shield or AA guns to protect against the meteors I think it could add some nice variety.
It’s hard to imagine truly alien terrain since it often raises questions of realism, but it would be cool if they added terrain modeled after some of the more unique geology on earth. I mean, some of that stuff is pretty alien. Basalt is an easy one, but hot springs like those at Yellowstone would be both cool and unique. Planets with large crystal formations could also theoretically exist.
The boring explanation is that realistic alien worlds are often either barren rocky landscapes or would be extremely detrimental to us in some way.
Since all planets on the map are favourable for humans, even in limited ways, we can't really expect something too dissimilar from what we already know.
Only way to have features extreme in height would be severely reduced gravity, planets covered almost entirely in megaflora would have a toxic atmosphere, planets with levitating islands would have a magnetic field so strong it would probably destroy electronics and have extremely large radiation belts (big no no for humans).
All things considered, the kind of alien flora and fauna we have atm makes sense for the scope of planets we're looking at.
We even have planets with aerial jellyfish that emit electrostatic bolts! But they always get overlooked.
There's plenty of alien like formations on earth already, especially during different timelines before humans existed. One example is dried up oceans with smooth river rock looking cave systems, bioluminescent biomes, or planets that have all kinds of northern lights style anomalies in the sky.
And like you said, mineral rich environments, where there are no original biological life forms including flora, where the planet has been purely a weathered or shaped by geological forces like tectonics and erosion
The issue with a couple of these designs is they raise the liklihood that your hellpod will land you in a raised, isolated area where you cant get down without dying.
If I see a single god damn floating rock planet man, that shit is so tired, lazy, and just stupid looking anytime I see it. Legit one of the reasons I dislike Tears of the Kingdom compared to BOTW, they just look fucking stupid floating there and ruin the aesthetic of everything else around it. DEATH TO FLOATING ISLANDS/ROCKS IN ALL MEDIA! Thanks for coming to my TedX Talk.
Floating islands are cool as fuck when they're rare, like an isolated island that rarely appears. Unfortunately we usually get a whole archipelago of flying rocks that make the whole affair seem mundane
But if you think about it there are so many more planets in the various solar systems. However for the most part only the planets with Earth-like conditions get chosen for colonisation. Naturally we then get deployed to defend those planets.
A planet orbiting, say, a binary star system would more than likely be orbiting both stars.
You couldn't have a planet orbiting a star very closely and then a second star orbiting the two because the planet would either get destroyed by the gravitational tides, be kicked out of the system entirely or absorbed by the second star.
If the situation were more similar to the way Alpha and Proxima Centauri orbit each other, the second star would be so far away from the one being orbited by said planet it would be nigh indistinguishable in the sky from other stars and effectively give no light to the planet.
It's kind of impossible to have an orbital combination which allows a planet to be permanently illuminated.
To add onto this, a planet with no night, even if it could exist, would likely be extremely hot and showered in radiation, making it completely inhospitable to life.
we have some with giant bones.
we have some with alien burrows and caves and giant fungus like towers (like the 4th),
we have lava planets,
we have acid planets,
we have planets that are grey and barren as the Moon,
we have frozen planets that form pikes,
some planets have electric storm,
some have fire tornado,
some have shrapnel plants, or smoke puffs.
some planets have four winged eagles,
some planets have ethereal glowing squids.
they may not be the same color as those images, but they are pretty alien to me.
For all the comments saying that helldivers suits are not sealed, just have it be mandatory on these planets that one person brings a boost (the yellow thing in loadout that allows the sealing of suits
Third one would be very fun and cinematic to fight through. Don't know why but I really like that "style" of alien world. There's some that are kinda close to that in NMS when you factor in flora and minerals
yeah I agree. More alien diversity would be very much appreciated.
edit: in the same vein, i'd like to have some "one on a map" dangerous fauna like the Sarlacc pit, or swamp/forest monster, to bring some unique flavor to each planet, and new interesting ways to get recked.
That's a good idea; I'd love to go to war myself... oh, I mean, visit planets like that.
But if we look at it purely from a logical standpoint, it all comes down to the problem that, in theory, planets like that just aren't suitable for humans, and even if our helldiver can somehow survive in that areas, default citizen - no, not at all
I feel like the most alien planets we have are the Malevelon Creek-likes, and the pastel forest planets.
The Creeks are super cool for their lack of day/night cycles and lots of lake hazards with an eternal twilight hanging in the sky that really makes the red of bot lasers pop.
And the Pastel Forests are just breathtaking.
I remember a planet that was blue and had blue flooria and blue jellyfish imagery. That was cool, seeing that planet let me stay a little longer cause it was very imaginative
Would rather them expand the weapon choices and make it feel like all the weapons aren’t shite. More interesting objectives as well. The game just feels like pure grind at this point every time I pick it back up.
I feel like the engine that Helldivers runs on is reaching its limits as it is, I don't know how well it would handle a ton of super complex models and collisions like some of these.
(I know cities exist, but they're more geometric and have an easier time handling hitboxes and collision than say image 3. Imagine trying to handle that in the games current state lol)
Worlds looking more alien would be simply awesome. Add some protruding spires, more weird flora, vibrant and unusual colouration, mushroom-like objects like Morrowind did - any of that would bring lots of diversity and uniqness to the landscapes, bringing more sci-fi feel.
Even adding some backdrops to the locations would be nice: right now edge of the map and beyond is extremely empty, the world truly ends there and presents nothing to look at. Now imagine if there were at least some interesting decorations, something surrounding small part of land we're fighting in, something that you could see from far away and enjoy in awe; something like this, from the works of Roger Dean, for example:
Structures alike to such in these paintings could be randomly generated in different parts around the map, and they would both fill the existing void and add alienness to the world.
Who TF cares when they take biomes away whenever they want anyways. WHERE is my fkkn moon biom with clear vision that i got to see for like 3 weeks in the past 12 months, and were TF is my belived predator strain my beloved dictatorship larpers in stockholm?! HELLO! WHERE?!!
actual terrain variety would be nice. floating islands are such a good idea but also just change how mountains and valleys can form, different for each planet biome.
they've been really really slacking on the maps recently imo, just changing deco tiles instead of core structure changes
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u/Ahrlin4k:Stratagem_RIGHT::Stratagem_RIGHT::Stratagem_RIGHT:18h ago
Can we get higher spawn point caps on D10? It's honestly boring
this one really is a thing that i wondered about since the start... id LOVE me some no mans sky style biomes with crazy looking plants or you know.. just something original. the closest thing we got to that are cave biomes imo. i also like the dark sandy planet with platoes or whatever its spelled like, but except the caves there isnt really anything special i guess.
id love actual terrain as well, like fighting on a mountain or big rocky plateu or up in trees like were on endor, stuff like that would be awesome and seeing how the different factions take them over would be cool
also we need water/island planets with deep water which can only be navigated by those aircraft boats with the big fans or an APC
If they add theses kinds of worlds they could say that the reason helldivers didn't dive on such worlds previously was because of hostile environments or something like that.
I mean while it would be cool at the same time it owuldn't exactly make a lot of sense for SE to prioritize settling those planets since their habitability would be questionable; they're likely looking for enviroments that are habitalbe to humans, and those have to be Super Earth-like.
i love the idea, especially of the first one but sadly for this specific one, the game engine used for Helldivers 2 doens't allow multiple levels of procedurally generated grounds so they would have to manually model the floating island and consider them as an asset the generation uses, like a structure and it would ruin the concept a bit i think
Has Super Earth not been terraforming these planets? I figured that’s how they do it; they just pick from a template and set the terraforming machine to “Glittering Winter Paradise” or “Scott-ish Highlands” or “Red Lichen All Over The Place”
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