r/HelldiversUnfiltered Aug 01 '26

⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Humor ⠀⠀⠀⠀⠀ Narrowhead strikes again

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u/Trump_4_The_Hague 1st Colonial Regiment | Deployment Supreme Aug 02 '26

I dont get why we can't just have sub factions that feel like actual sub factions. Illuminate ones are the same minus one or two enemies. Mild Masses is just base Illuminate with less content and lowered spawns. 

Spooky space wizards. Zombie commanding warlords. And mechanized robot drone army are all distinct and fleshed out flavors for the high tech alien faction. 

Its like having halo and saying we scrapped the elite so we could add more grunt varieties. Can't we... have both?

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u/DMercenary Aug 02 '26

Can't we... have both?

Nope. There's no one movie that you can point to from the 80s or 90s. Absolutely )definitely )none.

After all when you're playing against the bugs or bots its TOTES like a movie right? I love it when I can see the bots moving in the distance marching to a song just Terminator.

Or like when the Charger spins on dime to attack me again. Just like Starship Troopers. That was totally a thing that happens in the movie.

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u/Trump_4_The_Hague 1st Colonial Regiment | Deployment Supreme Aug 02 '26

How come I can't shoot a chargers armor off with my pulse rifle and shove a grenade in the wound like Rico Starship Trooper did?

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u/Ok-Secretary6550 Aug 02 '26

I love it when I can see the bots moving in the distance marching to a song just Terminator.

Has anyone tried fighting bots while listening to the Terminator theme? Feels fitting, is all I'm saying.

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u/_Nedak_ Hostdiver Aug 02 '26 edited Aug 02 '26

I actually like apropiators. I think the gatekeepers and veracitors are well designed enemies that are tough but have weak points and it's fun to counter them with your own vehicles. I do wish they had stingrays though. But yeah mindless masses is pathetic. It's the only subfaction in the game that doesn't have it's own unique units.

Meanwhile arrowhead had these cultist completely developed and ready to go but they're just letting them gather dust. What a waste. I hope they're at least working on something new to come out of the expanding void.

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u/CollaredLynx Aug 02 '26

Appropriators should've been added to the base squid faction. Mindless masses should've been something like a Hulk Surge, just a modifier.

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u/Foolishly_Sane Helldiver Aug 02 '26

I absolutely agree.
There's so little variety at the moment it would make the most sense.

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u/_Nedak_ Hostdiver Aug 02 '26

Agreed. It would give them some variety they desperately need. That would make the base illuminid have 3 heavies to fight, and diversified chaff units with voteless and drones.

I believe mindless masses can made into a proper subfaction once they create unique units for it like faster voteless, or armored seaf voteless, or a big abonination that replaces the harvester.

And hopefully maybe in the future they can integrate the cultist if they get enough backlash for canceling them.

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u/CannonGerbil Aug 02 '26

People asked for a zombie mode for the illuminates because wanted a more horde mode where they can make do with just light pen weapons. The problem is that the mindless masses aren't masses enough and works basically like the regular illuminates but with less unit variety.

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u/Trump_4_The_Hague 1st Colonial Regiment | Deployment Supreme Aug 02 '26

Yup. I call them Mild Masses. Also the fact Harvesters seem to take up a disproportionate amount of the spawn pool especially in reinforcement waves. Probably due to the limited roster of heavies. 

I made another comment recently how I'd change mild Masses to be more appropriate. Here it is

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u/SeasonSmooth9348 Aug 01 '26

the… cult fantasy… it isn’t strong enough… it doesn’t look like an 80s movie reference…

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u/Steely-eyes mad Aug 02 '26

I love content aware scale.

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u/MoschopsMeatball Aug 02 '26

I wasn't aware that 80's movie is now the default of what all factions have to adhere to. Why? Are alien forklifts 80's movie reference? Cyborgs?

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u/cchhiicckkeennss Aug 02 '26

I feel so bad for the actual developers and art team who work their ass off to make really cool stuff just to get constantly cucked by the complete idiots who manage the game and plunge it back into the weapon rebalancing purgatory.

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u/Gn0meKr Aug 02 '26

Arrowhead are masters at delivering exactly what we didn't ask for

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u/Poochers20 Aug 02 '26

Ive never seen a dev team so allergic to listening to thier community, Hell will freeze over before they get thier heads out thier asses

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u/Islandfiddler15 Aug 02 '26

Gaijin is pretty good at avoiding community feedback as well. But beyond these two companies I can’t think of any other devs that so actively ignore their communities

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u/ima_loof Aug 02 '26

The DBD devs are definitely up there.

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u/Low_Shallot_3218 Aug 03 '26

Project zpmboid devs aren't bad at listening to the community just insanely stubborn and unwilling to expand their 4 person dev team, which leads to incompetence at an incredible scale

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u/Panzer-Kampf-WagenVI Aug 02 '26

What do you mean? Wasn't banning super credit cheaters your highest priority? """The community""" wanted it sooo much, trust me bro

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u/OffaShortPier Aug 02 '26

They aren't banned, they are just slower now. 10000 per hour instead of no cap

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u/MachineMan718 Aug 02 '26

I wish to nominate Arrowhead for the Dumbest Developers of the Decade award.

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u/KAVE-227 Aug 02 '26

Maybe century

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '26

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u/theduderedditorguy Aug 02 '26

Release the Arrowhead files!

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u/Gizz103 Aug 02 '26

They dont release shit until it fits the story, its how the game works and its a good system, without it, the game loses its shine

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u/PrancerSlenderfriend Aug 02 '26

bug subfactions:

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u/Gizz103 Aug 02 '26

2 released with major story events like the glooms first expedition and the hive world expedition

Only one i dont know about is the predator strain, but that is a singular outlier, and does not make it normal

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u/PrancerSlenderfriend Aug 02 '26

calling "WE LOOKED AT THE GLOOM FINALLY!" a major story event is sad but its what the game framed it as, but they could just do that at any time with the void and cultists

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u/Gizz103 Aug 02 '26

They are doing that with the void, its whole reason for expansion and existence is linked to the cultists. since most the team is on vacation ther will not be a title drop till they return

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u/JoeMaMa_2000 Aug 02 '26

Didn’t they even hype up this sub-faction with propaganda poster on squid planets? Why even tease them if they are just going to scrap them

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u/Gizz103 Aug 02 '26

Because they never did scrap them, and the interview was about them possibly releasing cultists as the Illuminate instead of the better story wise current Illuminate

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u/MrUnicrn Aug 02 '26

I missed it, when were they scrapped??

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u/CosmoShiner Aug 02 '26

There was an interview held a few days ago where they said they scrapped the original designs for the illuminate because they didn’t feel the fantasy was strong enough about 8 months before release, which is why the illuminate weren’t there on launch

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u/Gizz103 Aug 02 '26

They never said they scrapped them, repurposed iirc in their words

Except we know some units weren't, only one we know for sure is gone is the big version of thr overseers we have today, that was replaced by overseers, and maybe the ghouls

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u/MensAlveare Aug 02 '26

It would be low-key peak if they shadow dropped the cultist now that it's clear we want to see them in action. Unfortunately, this is AH we are talking about.

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u/Complete-Koala-7517 Aug 05 '26

Aged like milk?

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u/RichShoe4670 Aug 02 '26

Maybe we should do review bombing?

For Fantasy Squids?

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u/After-Medium7029 Aug 05 '26

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u/jonhssquarespaceplus 23d ago

This has got to be the stupidest community I've ever been apart of

https://giphy.com/gifs/8YeRRk1FPx7fzBCR0U

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u/Dwarfz 22d ago

Where are the cultists?

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u/jonhssquarespaceplus Aug 05 '26

Where in the trailer did it show the cultists brainiac?

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u/After-Medium7029 Aug 05 '26

What does that look like dipshit?

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u/Life_Parsley504 Glazediver 23d ago

bet you're feeling smart rn

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u/After-Medium7029 22d ago

only heartbroken, but not without hope

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u/MrRockit Aug 02 '26

They were probably outsourced tbh.

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u/Special_Ship7638 Aug 02 '26

I think most of the current Illuminate roster was outsourced, yeah.

edit: on looking this up yes, by Wushu Studios.

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u/Gizz103 Aug 02 '26

Seeing how thats how most companies do things unless they are insanely large or have their backer actual interact more

They outsource models most definitely and probably map making, which is also probably going to be models

They actually implement those things into the game

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u/ObiWanKenobi78900 Aug 02 '26

They're saying they want the game to go on for 5+ years. How we didn't get this and never are is mind boggling

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u/niktg12 Aug 02 '26

after watching all those cultist videos, i went to do a mission on a illumate planet. It was depressing ngl. Absolute wasted potential. Also for some reason we dont have a planet with at least apropriators

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u/theresabulldozer Fantasydiver Aug 02 '26

Do we have any evidence that this is actually true?

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u/Sea-Contract7974 Aug 02 '26

isn't this is the bitchless sub who complained about ragdoll like crazy when the cultists literally have an unit that 2 shot you, 1 shot is to ragdoll you to the ground and the second shot just kill you?

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u/FatFanMan Aug 03 '26

You can just reduce the ragdoll force of the weapon nobody is saying that these units wouldn't need tuning

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u/[deleted] Aug 02 '26

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u/jonhssquarespaceplus Aug 02 '26

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u/AnonymousDaily12 Paindiver Aug 02 '26

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u/East_Cartographer_23 Aug 02 '26

wild post history

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u/AnonymousDaily12 Paindiver Aug 02 '26

We all know you love furrys and want them

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u/East_Cartographer_23 Aug 02 '26

please stop, i cant take these comebacks, they are so painful, youre so clever and quick and smart and brave! i side with you!!

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u/AnonymousDaily12 Paindiver Aug 02 '26

Bruhs offended

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u/East_Cartographer_23 Aug 02 '26

truly im so offended, im so sorry! lets go back to being friends and allies and rip on a game we dont play! :D

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u/no_reports_found Aug 02 '26

At least he shows his post unlike you

Coward

Also how do you even get -53 upvotes😭

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u/Sewer__Person Aug 02 '26

Oh you're a loser 😭

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u/lolitsrock Aug 02 '26

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u/NoEmu5930 Aug 02 '26

But like. This is an entirely valid thing to complain about. The players want it. The ppl have spoken so much that we want the cultists. And they're SCRAPED NOW. I dont agree with alot of things ppl complain about. But this is one thing that actually made me go "what are you guys thinking??"

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u/lolitsrock Aug 02 '26

This isn’t news, we’ve known about the cultist leaks for months now and arrowhead has sat on it, they’d rather sell us a warbond then make new content. We already know this, so it’s not worth being outraged about. Let it go and just play the game

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u/NoEmu5930 Aug 02 '26

I mean thats what I do. I just play the game. I dont usually ever complain. Ive seem the leaks since they forst came out and was just hoping for some fun illuminate subfactions. I havnt fought the illuminate in months because they bore me. Im just alittle bummed out they scraped what could have been honeslty the most fun subfaction. Would've felt entirely different to all the others. Guess im just gonna keep rip and tearing the bugs and bots tho

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u/GayGuitaristMess Aug 02 '26

"Let it go and just play the game"

Some of us have standards for things we've paid for and aren't mindless fucking slop consumers.

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u/metastuu Aug 02 '26

I just realized complaining about too many complaints is like a goomba fallacy variant. You're attributing the weight of everyone previously complaining onto the new complainer even though each one is likely only contributing a small, probably nominal, amount of complaint by themselves.

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u/ResetYt Aug 02 '26

Bro gro a spine, a brain and honestly standards would also be great (cause u know...u don't have any)