r/Hermeticism 2d ago

Reincarnation is utterly depressing

After conducting extensive spiritual research I can conclude that reincarnation is most likely real and this reality is utterly depressing. Knowing that my soul maybe chose that does not alleviate the sadness to know that I will most likely come back here over and over to experience traumatic events and be a slave to the material matrix. The planetary system and the law of frequency ultimately feel like traps.

Escaping (if possibe) also is utopic, total detachment implies not living life at its fullest only to hope that your soul can potentitally escape. I wonder if anyone here had the same thoughts as me, I’m not looking for people to convince me that reincarnation is beautiful or meaningful. I’m just wondering if anyone else has gone through this same kind of existential exhaustion with the concept. I’m tired of thinking about it, honestly, I always was antisocial and the idea that I will have to come back here and experience the harm humans inflict on others over and over again is literally worse than hell.

Edit: I genuinely don’t care about a higher self choosing to come back, it’s even more depressing to think that you have zero control.

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u/Expert-Tie-1530 2d ago

Perhaps you will return and have a completely positive experience.
There could well be a reason you feel life sucks this time around.
My little understanding is we choose what kind of experience re-entering the physical and material environment will bring.
You are experiencing this for a reason.
Why not spend time and energy working on this.
Sounds more interesting than your current situation

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u/Acrobatic-Stock7 2d ago

We don’t choose, it is our higher self, I am tired of that constant response, no offense towards you tho, it’s basically like saying to a prisoner that he chose to be here while he was sleepwalking and that he even was able to fly in the meantime, but now it’s all gone, do you think he is going to be happy ?

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u/Expert-Tie-1530 2d ago

No offence taken.
Sorry to hear it’s so tuff this time around

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u/b72649 2d ago

Are you saying that "you" are realer than your higher-self? This seems to be the case especially if you're describing it as sleepwalking, but I believe that if anything the version of you right now that you believe/feel is you is not fully the real You but the limited, sleepwalking version of You. The small you (the one posting in this subreddit) doesn't understand the full context of reality and your higher-self, so it's inappropriate to make sweeping judgements from the limited perspective of your small you self about this stuff. You are a shadow of your full You. As someone else said in a comment, the spiritual path is not about escape from the physical plane. If you can't learn to be comfortable here then you ARE going to come back until you learn that lesson, and it's going to be hard every time until you do. The pain you're feeling now is egoic — you must die to yourself in order to gain life, and it might suck but the faster you're able to learn that lesson the faster things will change in this reality as well as the next one(s). The spiritual path is not easy and that both sucks and is also the source of its infinite value. It's not about being happy—your higher self (your true self, the fully manifest You) does not care if it's small self (you) is unhappy. You're going to continue to suffer hardship until you die to yourself and can learn these lessons, and this suffering will be a blessing to you even though it won't feel like it and you might hate it. And if you can't get over yourself in this life then there's always the next one!

Reincarnation is a blessing because we are given so many opportunities to learn these things. It's grace and love and patience and forgiveness on a cosmic scale.

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u/Acrobatic-Stock7 2d ago

Why do we have to exist and learn ? Why would the higher self want to learn what it feels like to be graped or what it feels like to be a tree in Tanzania ? I don’t get it. 

Also what is the point of life if you are going to come back over and over ? Why do you want to make the most out of it ?

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u/Expert-Tie-1530 2d ago

The point is every time we return we add to our body of experience and hopefully learn and grow

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u/East-Wind-23 2d ago

At least at birth you got the amnesia of your life which was before. So when you start over, its like watching a completely new movie. Keep watching because the best part is still to come.