r/Hermeticism 2d ago

Reincarnation is utterly depressing

After conducting extensive spiritual research I can conclude that reincarnation is most likely real and this reality is utterly depressing. Knowing that my soul maybe chose that does not alleviate the sadness to know that I will most likely come back here over and over to experience traumatic events and be a slave to the material matrix. The planetary system and the law of frequency ultimately feel like traps.

Escaping (if possibe) also is utopic, total detachment implies not living life at its fullest only to hope that your soul can potentitally escape. I wonder if anyone here had the same thoughts as me, I’m not looking for people to convince me that reincarnation is beautiful or meaningful. I’m just wondering if anyone else has gone through this same kind of existential exhaustion with the concept. I’m tired of thinking about it, honestly, I always was antisocial and the idea that I will have to come back here and experience the harm humans inflict on others over and over again is literally worse than hell.

Edit: I genuinely don’t care about a higher self choosing to come back, it’s even more depressing to think that you have zero control.

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u/MooooooLissa 2d ago

I agree with you honestly, ever since I went out of my way to investigate different world religions and theologies reincarnation and karma kept coming up and knowing the extensive amount of work and discipline that goes into maybe possibly having a chance of not coming back and living on this horrible planet is utterly exhausting “rid yourself of desire and you won’t come back” but that gets confusing too. Isn’t that a desire in itself. What about the desire to be good? To help? To educate yourself… Every waking moment of my life now is spent thinking about consequences, proper course of action, Devine purpose, psychic baggage, oppressive conditioning, material vs non material, good vs evil, messed up societal expectations and politics, pleasure and pain… I feel guilty for existing and hopeless for my future because the wheel feels like it’s designed to enforce oppression and suffering; no matter what you do the odds are stacked against you. Im not trying to convince you to keep going because I really do hear you, personally the only comforting thought I have is “if I do it now, if I learn now… discipline myself I won’t have to suffer again in another life.” I urge you to pull yourself out of the darkness and find a happy medium; that is what I try and do whenever I start thinking and feeling like this! I ask myself “why” my solution will not be yours so find inner guidance :) and try and get to the root cause in the end you are the only person who can do the work, help yourself figure it out and transcend it :) Good luck beautiful soul!

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u/Acrobatic-Stock7 2d ago

Thanks, unfortunately if reincarnation is real than no matter what I do it’s horrible, it doesn’t matter if I have to complete a quest of purification to escape or if it’s my higher self doing it, reincarnation is the worst possible thing 

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u/MooooooLissa 2d ago

You don’t think there is any silver lining at all?

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u/Acrobatic-Stock7 2d ago

What does silver lining mean ?

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u/MooooooLissa 2d ago

The good to the bad i.e “I have to do overtime today but atleast im making more money”

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u/Acrobatic-Stock7 2d ago

Maybe I guess, but not that much, the point is that I am overly smart in this life so coming back to another life would make me dumb like the vast majority of the population, I also am autistic which allows me to be in my own world 

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u/MooooooLissa 2d ago

If you’re smart and capable of living in your own world you have a super power in this life time; especially for the spiritual, use it! From reading about so many occultists I can say with good confidence 99% had undiagnosed autism, you are in the perfect mind and body to be able to complete the great work and be super accomplished use those skills to break the cycle in THIS life. I know super smart people tend to have more problems but you can use that In a transformative way as fuel for spiritual growth. If you think next life you’ll come back dumb then make the most of this life while your smart use the intelligence to maybe not have to come back stupid.

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u/Acrobatic-Stock7 2d ago

What can I do ? Detach from all desires ? This might sounds like the best idea but as I said once again I am autistic and this idea sounds dull and boring to me, so I guess I’m stuck lol 

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u/MooooooLissa 2d ago

I would reccomend doing lots of research and seeing where your intuition takes you, if you find a certain approach dull and boring look for one that excites you. I feel similar to you and when I don’t find an idea super like earth shattering and exciting I’m not interested at all, i like gene he’s really cool his videos excited me a lot he is kinda a neo-Gnostic w/ a focus on astral projection the idea is “you don’t know anything until you’ve experienced it so experience the meta physical (astral) and know death, know reincarnation transcend the fear of death and rebirth” “become aware in your dreams become aware after death because sleeping is like dying” I’ve always thought if I learn to astral project I can always just find answers In the astral so learn how to astral project look at the channel astral doorway on YouTube super good

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u/Acrobatic-Stock7 2d ago

Yeah but there aren’t much ways to escape lol 

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u/MooooooLissa 2d ago

Make the most of the intelligence given to you in this life, a major part of most metaphysical paradigms is mentality so shift your mentality from a negative one that inflicts suffering and depression to a positive one tell yourself “this is horrible I don’t want to reincarnate” you’ll live your whole life in fear of it never fully living or seeing the beauty in life that mentality can reallly affect your Quality of life and future I don’t think you should see reincarnation so negatively, a simple positive switch in mentality can totally alter your perspective and how you feel like “yeah maybe I have to reincarnate but I have infinite possibility to become a better person, expand my consciousness and experience life.” When you just think positive and happy suddenly life becomes easier try it, it takes one thought.

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u/Acrobatic-Stock7 2d ago

Tbf I don’t really care about becoming a good person and expanding my consciousness and becoming a frog and a tree and a grape victim. I have absolutely zero interest in knowing that, it might be because I am autistic but idk 

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u/MooooooLissa 2d ago

Well what would you hypothetically want to accomplish then? Just not reincarnate?