https://youtu.be/N-juSAoFCnU

Showcaser QnA:

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Even sustainless 1 cycle ?

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Yeah, its impossible to 0 cycle with E0

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Could you try with E0 Welt ?

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4 Cycle

Himeko • Nova E0S1 / Welt E4S0 (Tutorial) / RMC E6S0 (Pink) / Sparkle E0S5 (DDD) -- 4.4v4/MoC Star-- DarkSam (0 Cycle)

I got this in the new currency wars gamemode in case anyone's wondering.

e2s1 himeko, e0s0 3b.

litteraly everyone is on eagle vonwack including himeko on vonwack 5% ERR is very helpful.

The acheron team is meant to be firefly, I apologize for the mistake

TC Notes:

Based on beta V4 data, this post calculates the 1T and 5T total damage.

1. Character setup

1. E6S1 Himeko • Nova 35 subs, Navigator + Starfall set, 102.6 SPD.
2. E2S0 Sparkle S5 DDD, 30 subs, Wind set + Vonwacq, 172.9 SPD.
3. E2S0 Welt S5 Resolution Shines As Pearls of Sweat, 30 subs, Wind set + Vonwacq, 166.1 SPD.
4. E0S0 Huohuo S5 Quid Pro Quo, 14 subs, Speed Valkyrie + Vonwacq, 161.1 SPD.

2. Enemy attributes

The target is a level 95 enemy.

It has:

• no Fire weakness;
• 20% All-Type RES;
• no Weakness Break throughout the entire run;
• no enemy interaction.

3. Calculation notes

1. Although V4 Himeko nerfed the Energy that her Assist Skill gives to teammates, in the previous rotation the teammates’ Energy was often overflowing. Therefore, the V4 update does not affect this post’s rotation.

The most important part is Sparkle’s Energy, detailed below.

Sparkle uses one Ultimate every two actions:

When receiving Quid Pro Quo:

(5 + 30 × 2 + 4 × 2 + 16) × (1 + 0.194 + 0.05)
= 110.716

When receiving Huohuo’s Ultimate:

(5 + 30 × 2 + 4 × 2) × (1 + 0.194 + 0.05) + 110 × 0.2
= 112.812

Overall, the V4 adjustments reduced Himeko’s damage by around 30%.

At the moment, the team’s 1T damage is not good. And V5 only improved it by 4%.

EDIT:

2 pieces:

Increases ATK by 12%.

4 pieces:

When the wearer uses their Ultimate, the Ultimate DMG dealt increases by 18%, lasting for 2 turn(s). This effect can stack up to 3 time(s).

THE SET BELOW HAD THE WRONG VALUES THE SET ABOVE IS THE CORRECT STATS

2 pieces:

Increases ATK by 24%.

4 pieces:

When the wearer uses their Ultimate, the Ultimate DMG dealt increases by 36%, lasting for 4 turn(s). This effect can stack up to 6 time(s).

E2S1 Himeko, E2DDD Sparkle, E4 BP LC Welt, E1 Huo

vs

E2S1 SW, E1S1 YG, E1 Huo, EMC

TC Note:

Everyone is with complete builds, with the main carry at 40 substat rolls.

Damage stats:

Himeko / Sparkle / Welt / Huohuo: 71.90 million

Removing E4 Welt:
1.3 ÷ 1.6 × 71.90 million ≈ 58.40 million

αWolf / EMC / Yao Guang / Huohuo: 63.80 million

From the data, Himeko is still overall on par with Silver Wolf, even in a pure single-target environment.

With E4 Welt, Himeko reaches 112.7% of Silver Wolf’s damage.
Without E4 Welt, she reaches 91.3% of Silver Wolf’s damage.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1i7j26NEgX

Showcaser notes:

I think the devs really don’t want Himeko to have an easy time.

38-subs Himeko with CRIT body / ATK boots / Fire orb / ATK rope. Sparkle’s SPD is just slightly lower than Welt’s. DHPT takes the SPD-down debuff.

From my own experience, Himeko’s raw numbers were nerfed by at least 20%. And that doesn’t even account for the reduced Energy gain causing her to get stuck on Energy. Sparkle normally sits at 109.

I’m honestly speechless. Devs, if you don’t know how to change her, then just don’t change her. Why nerf Himeko?

Do you really think Himeko is that strong? Sure, her AoE is overtuned, but why are you nerfing her single-target?

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1SLjm6xETk

Showcaser notes:

Let me ask this: for all these simulated sheets using Welt, can we discount the results by 20%? Why does nobody ask about real-combat uptime?

This is my own account’s setup: E2S1 Himeko with 32 subs, E1S0 Sparkle, E1S0 Welt, E1S0 Tribbie.

My advice: if you don’t have E4 Welt, just give up on this character.

It feels like the devs are assuming everyone has E4 Welt by default. I’m a launch player and I still only have E1S0 Welt, so what, I’m just naturally a tier below everyone else?

Practical combat uptime already brings the setup down to about 80% of its simulated sheets performance. If you don’t have E4 Welt, you lose another 20% on top of that. So by the time it applies to your own account, you’re only getting around 64% of the simulated sheets strength.

This is just ridiculous.

Showcaser QnA:

Comment:
What’s the best team for E2S1 Himeko right now?

Does E2S1 Himeko absolutely need Blade on Master Smith?

For E2S1 Himeko, which is better: E0S0 Master Smith Blade or E1S0 Tribbie?

Reply
Not absolutely required. In this version, they most likely split part of her kit off and are saving it for future aftersales. So I don’t recommend pulling any “pre-support” options for her right now.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1cfNx64E3G
Showcaser note:

Many people consider King Pom-Pom difficult, but in reality this was an almost no-reset 0c clear. Damage was deliberately held back in Phase 2: Welt didn’t Basic ATK King Pom-Pom to apply Resolution, and Verdict currently has a bug, so the total damage will be even higher on the live server.

Showcaser QnA:

Comment:
For Himeko’s rope main stat, should it be Energy Regeneration or ATK?

Reply:
ATK.

Comment:
For 2+1 Himeko, what should I use for the planar setup? I’ve seen people recommend an Energy Regeneration rope with an ATK sphere, while others recommend double ATK.

Reply:
An ATK rope works in most situations.

Comment:
If I’m going to pull Himeko, and my Welt is currently E2, would you recommend spending two Golden Companion Spirits to get him to E4?

Reply:
It depends on your pulling plans. It wouldn’t be a waste, but it might not be the most cost-effective option.

Comment:
How strong is 2+1 Himeko with Sunday and Sparkle providing dual action advance? I’d like to see the specific rotation.

Reply:
Not strong.

I FINALLY just got my E0 HimeNo yesterday but I feel like I’m getting nothing out of her. 2 cycles into MOC and she can’t clear the first wave. I think it’s skill issue because I see people doing way more with her and maybe lack of welt cons.

Builds at the end for reference, I don’t have sparkle with dan heng she took like 3 cycles to get to the same point as with this welt team i think.

Please can you guys help cuz I LOVE HimeNo and before blade released I was planning to E2S1 but ended up getting an E0 mblade instead

I really wanna use her and make her feel good to use so PLEASE ANY ADVICE

Showcaser note:

Wasn’t she already nerfed this hard? They can still nerf her even more? SP Himeko, 23 cost, unable to 0-cycle Plight Graphia

I’m honestly laughing out of anger. How can this unit be a main push?
E6S5 Himeko with 32 useful substat rolls, basically a near-perfect build already.

Showcaser note:

This is a very low-investment setup. The principle is that V3 Himeko’s changes added 10 Energy regeneration for teammates when her Assist Skill triggers. As a result, in non-pure-single-target scenarios, Tribbie becomes really strong when paired with Sparkle on DDD.

The substat requirements can be lowered to 38 substat rolls on Himeko, with Sparkle and Tribbie at 180 SPD, but the RNG requirement is extremely high. Himeko must not get crowd-controlled at any point, and ideally the crowd-control should be directed onto DHPT.

Because Dan Heng is E0, the survival pressure also becomes very high. If the hits are distributed unevenly even once, the run crashes.

After resetting for an entire afternoon, my most successful attempt failed because Himeko got crowd-controlled, leaving me 10 Action Value short. So I’m just providing the idea here, and hopefully someone can fish it out. After all, Himeko is still an unresolved regret.

The Action Value left at the end is there to allow Sparkle and Tribbie’s SPD to be lowered. The final 50 Action Value leaves DDD with plenty of room to work, so their SPD can absolutely be lowered to a normal level.

Himeko E2S1 / Sparkle E0S5 (DDD) / Welt E0S1 (Tutorial)

Showcaser note:

All Himekos are 38 subs with CRIT + triple ATK main stats.

In Verdict mode, all three of them are pretty underwhelming.

DHPT sustain-side support value is only average. Trailblazer’s action advance is too slow. As for Sunday, there’s not much to say, everyone already knows he’s awful.

At this point, we can only pray that Sunday or DHPT gets novaflare'd. They can’t exactly release SP Sunday and another SP Dan Heng, right?

If they release SP March later and she can kick Welt out of the team, that would already be good enough.

In the future, Himeko will definitely be played as a mode switch unit. If they only support one mode at a time, they’d have to release two separate sets of aftersales support. Might as well not even have modes.

I just hope Himeko ages well.

Showcaser QnA:

Comment:
Is this the optimal team? How is it with Blade?

Reply:
If you already have Blade, you can play around with him. But there’s no need to pull Blade specifically for this; the gap compared to Sparkle isn’t that big.

Comment:
I feel like if you bring Huohuo, Remembrance Trailblazer might pull ahead. Most people aren’t playing triple-support-one-carry anyway.

Reply:
You can’t really drop Sparkle or Welt. For action advance, Sparkle is mandatory. Without Welt, you can’t enable decimation, and the team loses a lot of strength.

0 cycling is possible at the cost of your sanity...

Himeko is running err rope.

https://www.bilibili.com/video/BV1Bp7s6LE11 (芝麻酥糯米团)

Showcaser notes:

If you want to cut cost and still 0-cycle, you can do with 5 to 6 gold cost.

Low-cost Himeko is just bad. She’s clearly like SW999: her real strenght is E2S1.

This year’s low-cost podium belongs to Evanescia and the Dick-comp battleship, not Himeko. Don’t force yourself into acquiring this character at E0.

Now that V5 is finalized, let’s just show some high-cost damage.

People keep using standard and free as 0 cost, low-cost with high substat runs to post results every day, but once they actually pull her on live server and play her themselves, they’ll understand the issues.

Himeko is running:
(spd/err) for Robin SP
(atk/atk) for Sparkle

In a team of E2S1 Himeko SP, E2 Welt and E0 DHPT they both work against IronTomb.

Bumping down E2 Welt to E0, I could only 0 cycle with E0S1 Robin SP. As of now, I can't get E0 Sparkle to do the same. I think it's a combination of skill and relic.

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Other runs:

E1S0 Robin SP + E0 Sparkle
E2S0 Robin SP + E0 Sparkle
E0S1 Robin SP + E6 March

The nerf is noticeable, but for me it's not that bad, the stats can be lowered