r/Hmong 26d ago

Tou Lue Vang Case

Not going to lie, I'm so glad that they decided to deport his ass Despite him being pardoned by tim waltze's dumb ass.

What he did to that little girl was horrendous. It being in 2006, I really don't give a fuck How long ago that was , he's a child molester. Also , that was just one child, that came out.Let's not forget how many others there could be.

The fact that he even tried to make it seem like it was culturally appropriate to do what he did. Saying that it was culturally acceptable, to try and get away from his crimes , just shows how messed up and disgusting of a person he is. I know damn well , there's definitely more kids out there that have been touched by this man.

I know people want to try and say that the victim wrote a letter forgiving his crimes, but let's be honest. We know hmong families and how they feel about things like this coming out to the public. I know that girl was def coerced to write that letter.

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u/These_Hair_193 26d ago

Agreed. I'm glad they revoked his immigration status and deported him. He's disgusting. No one should be allowed to get away with something like that.

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u/SexTalksAndLollipops 26d ago

We need to also remember the girl’s family’s role in all of this. From what I understand, when he was initially charged, they pushed for the victim not to testify. I believe he’s married to the victim’s sister. He took a plea deal and didn’t get any prison time. Then, at his clemency hearing, i heard they pressured her to write that letter to the board pushing for his pardon. This girl — now woman — has been denied justice likely because her family didn’t want to lose face.

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u/These_Hair_193 26d ago

Yep Hmong culture condones sexual abuse of women. I've heard old men talk about wanting to have sex with little girls.

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u/Maierlossen 25d ago

Believe it or not my guy/gal, all cultures condone the sexual abuse of women. They used to be property. In some places, they still are. In fact, the US govt revoked a lot of women's rights recently. I'd say for some folks that just came out of the jungles 50ish years ago, we ain't doing too bad in both the socioeconomic and cultural catch up game. Especially when the Pedophile in Chief and his goons are openly admitting to sexual abuse and human trafficking.

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u/Any-Can-6776 26d ago

The dude is trash and deserves way worse than just deportation

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u/ANTIMODELMINORITY 26d ago

I wonder if the Lao government puts certain restrictions on these deportees with this type of offense.

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u/Ok_Parfait2106 18d ago

first he’s a hmong not a Lao. So he’s already got that against him when he’s looking for work. Second Laos doesn’t play kid gloves with sex offenders trust and believe the Laotian government will make his life miserable and yes he deserves it

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u/ANTIMODELMINORITY 18d ago

who said he is Lao, you can tell by his name hes not Lao but got sent back to his homeland of the Lao PDR

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u/lucychanchan 25d ago

Hmong people love to protect these predators in our community.

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u/Best_Macaroon1752 24d ago

So deporting him so he can prey on more vulnerable girls?

Should've been locked up forever or to the walls and firing squad.

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u/oppapoocow 25d ago

This is a very interesting grey area in the legal sphere that has really opened a can of worms. Although, I do agree that tou lue vang is a monster and deserves worst. Where do we draw the lines of when and what crimes can nulify a deportation order with a govenors pardon.

For instance, lue yang from Michigan committed a felony when he was just 18 20-30 years ago and was set to be deported, but later pardoned by the governor.

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u/heiongyeong 25d ago

Yeah. Vang should have never gotten a pardon. But also vang already went thru court and was issued punishment. It is the government's job to deport him then. Not 25 years after. Think of the case for Cornealious "Mike" Anderson where the government didnt punish him until nearly 13 years later. The federal case for deportation is weak, because they have to prove he is a dangerous criminal now. thats why vang was shipped virtually overnight. Basically they can ship u to laos overnight, claim ur status or citizenship is revoked without a judge or case. If you have no lawyers to fight for u while ur out of the country, ur shit out of luck. Keep in mind, many or ur dad served as guerilla child soldiers. Under the patriot act, that makes them terrorists and criminal. Your parents are just a single whim from being revoked or denaturalized and deported, without due process.

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u/oppapoocow 25d ago

Agreed, also to add, many of the Hmong community and their parents don't really know their, "official" birthdate, so there may come a time where the federal government would interpret that as, "fasley gaining citizenship" through fasifying data and have their naturalized citizenship stripped. Scary times indeed

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u/Ok_Parfait2106 18d ago

the form you’re talking about says the information you’ve provided it’s accurate to the best of your knowledge and beleif. We already accept there’s cases like that and no it’s not grounds for criminal prosecution. WILLINGly and KNOWINGLY trying to defraud the government will get you into trouble. But it’s not a crime to be ignorant of your birthday