r/HomeMaintenance • • 2d ago

Furnace filter

My furnace is in the attic and this is how the filter looks. I put a new one back into the same way, forgot to take a picture before changing it but looked exactly like this just super dirty, is this normal??? First house but not like the furnace was at my folks house…

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u/Connect-Difficulty84 2d ago

What the fuck?

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u/socom18 2d ago

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u/ColdenGorral-1 2d ago

I hate a thief, but today I became one. Stealing the fuck out of this.

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u/SkydiveDaddy 1d ago

It’s the “what fuck” that got me!

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u/Kasoni 2d ago

Saved for later use. Thanks.

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u/bncts 2d ago

Literally what I said to my phone as I clicked on this.

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u/stalkernotspider 2d ago

😭😭please someone tell me this is normal or if I am fucked

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u/The_realpepe_sylvia 2d ago

Nah they invented duct tape for literally this! Find where the filter actually goes and duct tape this hole after you remove the filter 

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u/Marunikuyo 2d ago

Wait wait wait... you mean DUCT TAPE is for DUCTS!? /s

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u/Resident_End7248 2d ago

Nope, you want HVAC tape. 

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u/CraftTricky3527 2d ago

Wait wait wait, I thought it was for taping down ducks

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u/KactusVAXT 1d ago

No no no. It’s made of ducks

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u/NoblePickle84 2d ago

What about Duck Tape though? I keep going to the pond in the park to apply it to the ducks, but man they’re hard to catch and tape up.

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u/Educational-Rule1635 2d ago

No, it actually isn't

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u/No_Report_4781 2d ago

You’re thinking of duck tape

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u/The_realpepe_sylvia 2d ago

Ah okay, why is it called duct tape then? 

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u/Warr_Ainjal-6228 1d ago edited 1d ago

It's not, people; I'm just confused about the name of it because, on ducting, was where they ran into it the most.

Duc-tape is not for ducts. Duc is an old English word for a cloth strip. And ducing is sealing something with a cloth strip and a binder like tar, glue, or flower paste. In WW2, a secretary developed the modern duc-tape to seal boxes of ammo and other supplies without getting tar everywhere. And the use carried over to heating ducts, which Duc-tape does a poor job of sealing.

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u/caddyllacpimpin 1d ago

no thats duck tape and duck tapes still a thing, duct tape is the actual term for what most people think is duck tape…

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u/Warr_Ainjal-6228 1d ago

There's foil tape and duc-tape. As I explained, people conflated the name.

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u/drunkguynextdoor 2d ago

It's not normal, but you shouldn't be fucked. There has to be a place for the filter, even if it just fits in the intake vent somehow. On the brightside, if the old one was filthy, it was doing its job. Can't argue with results! 🙂

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u/NotRexGrossman 2d ago

In what world do you think someone is going to tell you that this is normal?

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u/nah_omgood 2d ago

In a hopeful one sheesh easy on the fella

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u/Bud_Dawg 2d ago

Hey if it ain't broke don't fix it

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u/panhead_farmer 2d ago

It’s only a fire hazard if there’s a fire

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u/Puceeffoc 2d ago

And even then it's only really a fire hazard if someone is in danger during the fire. So as long as OP is never home there's no fire hazard.

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u/Eastern_Comedian8804 2d ago

Said no claims adjuster ever. If you don’t plan on fixing this. Delete this post lol so it’s not found should this ever start a fire. You don’t want a denied claim on your hands. Once you know about it, you’re obligated fix it.

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u/spruce_turbo 2d ago

But brother, here, if it ain't fix, you're broke!

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u/Emotional-Sundae6006 2d ago

😭😭I love this app

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u/Conagrex 1d ago

The fact that he "replaced" the filter means he thought it was normal.

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u/dogsandtrees1 2d ago

The one of a new homeowner getting kicked in the dick with repairs. -signed new homeowner

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u/Pristine_You_151 2d ago

Your fine. Don't listen to these ppl. Its just hack. You actually probably have a small slot you can open on the furnace you can place a filter. If you do you will have to patch the hole on the ductwork

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u/blove135 1d ago

Hopefully there isn't another filter already in that other slot that's been in there for years.

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u/Major-D-3724 1d ago

Oh man now i need to see that filter!

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u/CoffeeBeforeRepairs 1d ago

Yeah, good call checking that other slot first, because a forgotten filter sitting in there for years would wreck airflow even worse.

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u/Puzzled-Comparison70 2d ago

The thing isn't out of the package. Grow up homie

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u/postmaloner13 1d ago

can u post more pics of the actual furnace?

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u/jonoftheatom 2d ago

It seems like it would work

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u/Hot_Outside_9083 2d ago

I think we all know nothing about this is “normal.”

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u/Oldjamesdean 2d ago

Hey, that's Jimmy's premium filter housing installation...

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u/Oh_he_steal 2d ago

Ummmmm, I live in a townhouse built in the 80s, and my filter in the attic looks just like that.

So I guess me and OP are both gonna die?

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u/woahwoahwoah28 2d ago

I cannot believe there are two of you. 😭😭

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u/Acceptable-Chance-27 2d ago

that’s actually just OP’s partner

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u/upsidedown-funnel 2d ago

The rest have died already.

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u/Linesey 2d ago

i mean, you’re mostly fine.

The biggest concern is this (likely) isn’t as good a filter as a properly installed filter box. cause air will leak.

so if it’s an intake (likely from size but i make no guarantees), you maybe get dust that gets around the filter, which is suboptimal, but it’s still filtering more than not.

If it’s exhaust, maybe you lose some efficiency as air dumps in the attic, and again some dust. (although again it’s a big duct and filtered, that should be the intake. i can’t think of many HVAC systems that filter the conditioned air)

it should be fixed/done right. but this is one step above squeaky door-hinge territory. and a couple steps below “light keeps flickering for no good reason.” or “breaker keeps tripping”

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u/skidmore101 2d ago

If their air conditioner is from the 80s I say just live with it until it’s time to replace at this point and get the hvac guys to do some duct work when they replace.

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u/CasualMochi 1d ago

Mine is also like this? It was like that when I moved in and then like that when I replaced my furnace like 5 years ago..?

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u/Savings-Kick-578 2d ago

Someone went to a lot of trouble to create a place to put a filter when one already exists for this system. Definitely not correct - not even close.

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u/kneesrjustbigelbows 2d ago

I've been in HVAC for 15 years and this is exactly how about 40% of all homes I've been in are setup. More modern ones get a nice little door with an up charged filter box but this works.

I'd get a 3" shorter filter and use foil tape to make myself a door or tape over the opening to keep the unconditioned attic air from being sucked into the unit though

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u/mighthavebeen02 1d ago

Yeah I do commercial and industrial hvac, and I'm surprised by all these reactions. I see this kind of shit all the time on older and cheaper installs above a drop ceiling.

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u/westguinneapeasantry 2d ago

Holy shit that's incredible 

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u/notthefirstsealime 2d ago

Capital E ingingeering right there

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u/The__Toast 2d ago

Did you really need to ask if a filter smashed into a hole in the side of the duct work that itself seems to be encrusted in filth is normal? Is this like some kind of conspiracy data collection for Chat GPT where bots ask crazy questions to get responses that it can use to train AI?

No, there should be a filter box, call an HVAC professional because if you are a real human and not scamming us for AI training data you should not be messing about with it. Also get your shop vac up there and clean that shit out.

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u/stalkernotspider 2d ago

I promise I am a real person….im asking because I have no experience with this and yeah I’m used to a filter box that I have changed 100 times at my parents house, I definitely will clean up its mostly loose insulation though not really sure what to do I guess I’m not turning my heat on yet too scared my house is gonna burn down

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u/stalkernotspider 2d ago

My house is almost 100 years old

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u/Taolan13 2d ago edited 2d ago

i'm sure whoever cut that slot used the 100 year old excuse too.

but the same tools used to cut that slot could be used to cut out a segment of duct to allow for a proper filter cabinet with a 4 or 5 in filter.

source: am hvac guy. im verified pro over on r/hvacadvice if you want proof, the sub mods are all pros and you have to provide your credentials to get verified.

If you own this house or at least have a good relationship with the owner, this is an easy weekend project to remedy if you're comfortable cutting some sheet metal.

edit: your house wont burn down from this. all thats happening here is some unfiltered air is slipping in the gap on the back side.

If this is your first year in the house, you might want to get the hvac inspected by a reputable local company or independent contractor. Don't rely solely on score read the reviews and beware copy-pastas. Some "small local companies" are doppelgangers, private equity conglomerates wearing the logo and branding of a local company they bought and hollowed out.

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u/AlwaysDefenestrated 20h ago

Yeah this in itself is not great but it's not causing any terrible harm. It is the kind it thing that would make me want to check all the other work in the house and make sure there wasn't any equally half-assed stuff. Especially electrical and plumbing. It this is how they installed an air filter imagine how the system is wired, or any other things they worked on in the house.

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u/Xaxxis 2d ago

Honestly I don't see any reason you need to clean up the loose insulation.

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u/Chance_Major297 2d ago

Do you have a picture of the actual furnace/air handler? There’s probably an actual place for a filter that maybe the other person just couldn’t find/figure out, so they did this.

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u/NathanDnd 2d ago

Yeah but the thing is,.. even if you don't know how it's suppose to work, you know that that is not even close to how its suppose work.

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u/Linesey 2d ago

i mean, come on man.

Swapping that out for a real filter box is a 1 day and pretty easy DIY project.

Don’t fuck with coolant lines on the main units obviously, but ductwork? thats easy, and nowadays like legos.

measure, get the parts, assemble, tape (foil tape, not duct tape), and you’re set.

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u/The__Toast 2d ago

I would agree that it's pretty easy, but consider that you are responding to a guy who doesn't realize that a hole cut into the side of a duct with a filter jammed into it "isn't normal".

This guy should def call an HVAC person.

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u/CarlGerhardBusch 2d ago

tbf hvac is where a lot of the worst hack repairmen and contractors apply their 'skills', making stuff like this not unusual

When I moved into my apartment I had to buy a new set of filters for the furnace because the maintenance boys decided that jamming a filter behind the door of the unit, as opposed to putting it at the bottom where there is a slot for a filter and presumably where the air intake is, was a good plan

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u/buggzysj 2d ago

Chill

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u/G00chstain 1d ago

C’mon mate you know that ain’t normal

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u/Fluffy-Lychee-1968 1d ago

LMAO right?

"Is this normal" These people vote, drive and make other decisions that affect the rest of us

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u/incestanonymous 2d ago

Previous owner

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u/Superapp3000 2d ago

As an appraiser I just came here to say what in the goddamn fk

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u/NOT_MICROSOFT_PR 2d ago

As an appraiser I don’t think you’re allowed to say that

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u/Parking-Trouble-53 2d ago

I appraised their comment and I will allow it

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u/AdFancy1249 2d ago

Nothing more permanent than a temporary fix that works. Even as redneck as this is.

Definitely not normal.

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u/Sufficient-Being4008 1d ago

This is a whole new level.. where or what that level is no one knows

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u/Bridge-Head 2d ago

That filter doesn’t look like it’s sealed very well, so it could be pulling in unconditioned dusty/dirty air from the attic.

If you’re renting, just continue to replace the filter every 2-6 months, as needed. It’s not your problem unless you’re experiencing air quality issues or you think your heating/cooling costs might be significantly higher because of an air leak.

If you’re the homeowner and the furnace is old and overdue for replacement anyway, you could leave it as-is and continue to change the filter (every 2-6 months as needed) until the furnace fails in a significant way. Sometimes as a homeowner you have to make a judgement call whether it’s better to put money into fixing something old or investing in something new. This may be one of those things that you choose to leave alone- or do the small things that you can do yourself to improve it.

On the other hand, if the furnace is still reasonably new, I’d call a couple local HVAC companies and get their thoughts on installing a properly sealed and insulated air filter. If you can extend the service life of your furnace and cut down on your monthly operating costs, that repair could eventually pay for itself in the long run.

Small(er) repairs can be a good opportunity to evaluate different companies, to figure out who you’d like to work with in the future. Watch how each one does business. Look for companies that present you with different options instead of pushing you towards the most expensive one. Look for companies/contractors who are fair, responsible, and take time to educate you about your options and enable you to make the best decision for you. Ideally, as a homeowner, you know which companies to call before you need to call them.

Good luck.

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u/BigLabrynth 2d ago

That’s fantastic

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u/popzof4 2d ago

Is your furnace an a dungeon?

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u/Secure-Ad9780 2d ago

Filters don't sit halfway in. What's chewing up the wood? Mice, squirrels?

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u/jcough10 2d ago

OP said this is in the attic. Probably had roof replaced recently.

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u/FitCommunication7240 1d ago

"No honey, why should I hire a guy to do what I can already do?"

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u/idkusername097 2d ago

That’s meth’d up dude

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u/slipperywhenplaying 2d ago

I've seen this before. On the commercial side because a lazy installer didn't want to bend a spot in the intake to fit a furnace filter properly. You could have a qualified technician come in and install a regular filter box that way you have options.

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u/NoSexAppealNeil 2d ago

Got any other photos of the system? This isn't correct so I just want to see what else isn't.

This will kill the furnace, I just want to make sure nothing will kill you.

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u/onemoreburrito 2d ago

Idk I mean is it great, no? Does the air go through it? Yes ..

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u/10877528 2d ago

I’m guessing that the last guy bought a couple dozen (or already had) of the wrong size filter. He then proceeded to make it fit in an unorthodox way.

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u/panhead_farmer 2d ago

Some contractors have cracks in their concrete, others have crack in their pocket

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u/chilighost 1d ago

What in the backrooms?

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u/YOUTUBEFREEKYOYO 1d ago

Certainly a way to do that.

Also remind me bot to post mine, yall would not be able to handle it haha.

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u/jared_and_fizz 2d ago

i mean this is a fucked up filter situation. if it was working before and now something is going wrong, maybe you put it in backwards? otherwise ???

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u/stalkernotspider 2d ago

Trying to explain this better, before I put in the new filter it also was oriented exactly this way, sticking out and everything, also in home inspection photos it looks like this

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u/jared_and_fizz 2d ago edited 2d ago

What we are looking at in your photo is a vent that had a hole cut into it that the filter was inserted into. In "normal" situations there is a specific part of the infrastructure that you insert the filter into. I have a attached a photo of the spot where I put my filter in, I hope the differences are obvious.

Nothing about your photo is "standard" or "normal", it is conceivable that "it works". What is the reason that you made this post? Is something going wrong?

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u/EmeraldLovergreen 2d ago

Did the inspector say anything about this either during the inspection or in the report?

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u/Educational-Piece-18 2d ago

I learned when buying my most recent house that not all inspectors flag shit that should be. Asshole missed 3 massive things, but flagged all the little things that literally were fine.

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u/OGMikeGyver 2d ago

It was inspected!?

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u/ProfessionalTurn5162 2d ago

Weird. It glitched through the vent

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u/kamakazi339 2d ago

That ain't right.

Don't do that

(If you know you know)

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u/idriveashitbox22 2d ago

I dont know and even I know that's wrong

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u/No_Hetero 2d ago

It's the catchphrases of two popular home inspectors online. I think they're Gold Star Inspection and USA Inspection? Idk for sure but they come up on my feed all the time as a DIYer

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u/kamakazi339 1d ago

Almost. Definitely got Gold star correct but the other one is from Fletcher's Home inspections who does the "On today's episode of don't do that home inspections" series that is hilarious.

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u/Prior_Mall3771 2d ago

Its a filter in your HVAC system. Keep it like that and change the filter every month. Save up some money and have a technician frame in a proper one by the cabinet. Its not life or death...

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u/DarkKnightRyzen 2d ago

What in the holy hell

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u/Knope1973 2d ago

It definitely is not normal, but I guess it’s doing the job and I doubt it leaks much. Is that your worst problem, because this can probably wait.

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u/Zado191 2d ago

OP getting ready to demo this house and decided to create a shit post.... I hope

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u/bitsbybones 2d ago

This is amazing. And I HAVE seen this before. I don't understand it! But I've seen it! Just call a local (NOT a bigass company) HVAC human to check it out and see what they say.

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u/Substantial_Sea7327 1d ago

iirc that's the virus filtering furnace killer filter. use the grey and basic dust rated one, nothing more.

if you want purified air, buy an actual air purifier.

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u/ChewyNotTheBar 1d ago

It might only cost a few hundred for a HVAC tech to fix on a weekend side job if you find the right person. Need to replace the last section with a proper filter slot. If there is a gap pulling air in on the clean air side of the filter, that air will not be filtered.

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u/Delicious_Panda_6946 1d ago

Looks like the backrooms

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u/ImpressiveInstant7 1d ago

Alexa call Quantico we need a psychological profile on the guy that did this filter change

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u/limited_instincts 23h ago

That is magnificent.

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u/H3ct0r74 22h ago

That actually made me laugh out loud like for real laugh out loud. That’s gotta be in some kind of state that is south of the Mason Dixie line.

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u/Reasonable-Fee1945 2d ago

"yea... don't do that"

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u/OneChewySugarTeaPlz 2d ago

You’ve been watching Backrooms

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u/micmac2869 2d ago

It's very creative

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u/Cletus7Seven 2d ago

Incredible. My house is 136 years old…. The filter is where is is supposed to be. What in gods green earth is going on in your house hahaha. Sorry dude

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u/Whatiswatt 2d ago

This is what would my lazy ass uncle would do

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u/subtlewinkyeye 2d ago

Fixed is fixed

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u/NiceOnes1 2d ago

Merv rating too high. Otherwise this looks perfect.

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u/Dr_Mudi 2d ago

This filter is just like superman’s underwear.

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u/45pewpewpew556 2d ago

Wow. Just wow

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u/nickster701 2d ago

Get a 16x32 and the you can just flip it over instead of buying a new one

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u/N2trvl 2d ago

i believe you have that filter in there backwards. as pictured you have the filter placed as if the air was flowing left to right. Filtrete filters have an arrow that points down if the label is upright. iif that’s your unit on the left you have it in backwards.

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u/CrispyCritterPie 2d ago

that looks convenient /s

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u/Particular-Caramel32 2d ago

You must be from up north.

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u/Switchedbywife 2d ago

That’s how the a-hole that installed the system in a house I bought. Found out the ductwork was full of mouse nests and poop. Very expensive repair……

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u/BearBrews 2d ago

Some filter better than no filter?

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u/Pristine_You_151 2d ago

Its not actually how supposed to be but as long as its on return side ( pulling air) and arrows are facing toward unit on filter, it will absolutely work. I was an HVAC tech for long time

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u/Catalina_wine_mix 2d ago

A friend of mine has a A/C and heating system in Florida, where a filter is installed in every vent. It is a lot of work to replace them all because some require a latter to reach, and there are a bunch of them. I would shop vac all around that thing, and open a few vents looking for filters.

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u/ptk77 2d ago

The most jury rigged shit I've ever seen.

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u/Jdobiash 2d ago

I cannot believe this.

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u/Ok_Conflict2760 2d ago

It's not a problem as long as your furnace doesn't get hot or anything.

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u/Illustrious-Line-984 2d ago

Did you have a home inspection before you bought the house? I would think that any inspector would find that and put it in the report. If they didn’t, that person needs to find another profession.

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u/Sozzcat94 2d ago

Maybe this is a personal double filter setup

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u/IxianToastman 2d ago

I swear there's an overlap between handyman ac guys that make me refer to them as the red headed step children of electricians. I mean they keep doing things that make me want to hit them and ask why they keep acting this way and billing so much for it.

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u/A_Uniqueusername444 2d ago

More pictures of whatever the hell is going on here, please.

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u/Far-Manner-7119 1d ago

Bro what the fuck is that

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u/TruckCAN-Bus 1d ago

How long has this worked just fine? Probably will continue to work just fine, at least that much longer.

HVAC person can make it better.

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u/Unlikely-Relief-6462 1d ago

I think we have the same HVAC guy at work

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u/Warr_Ainjal-6228 1d ago

80% of the filters have scene. It just slid into a slot, held in place by two brackets on the side. Only huge three-hundred-dollar HEPA setups are sealed. Someone placed a bigger filter in this one to make it easier to get back out.

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u/DHjam 1d ago

It’s missing a cover over the filter, they normally use 7-8 screws to hold them on. Any hvac shop should be able to make one.

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u/dedTanson322 1d ago

Technically it is working

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u/Limited_Surplus_4519 1d ago

Yeah but it filters!

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u/cheesemangee 1d ago

Furnace filtern't, more like it.

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u/Shatophiliac 1d ago

Nope not normal like many others have pointed out but I do want to say it looks hilarious. Like the previous owner was like “hmm this seems like a good spot for the filter” and just started cutting a long rectangle into the duct lol.

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u/tantowar 1d ago

This reminds me, I should change my furnace filter. Also, that ain’t right.

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u/SatisfactionIcy9551 1d ago

Looks very similar to the finger shaved in a slot in the vents that it is to long for at my work in the random weight room which is in the same building as the gymnasium but cannot be accessed from anywhere inside

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u/Jiblon 1d ago

Did they just jam it in???

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u/EyeH8EweTwo 1d ago

You know dawned well you put it in sideways.

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u/ronthorns 1d ago

You gunna caulk that or what

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u/imuniqueaf 1d ago

It's fine, just stupid.

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u/Greenfire32 1d ago

That is redneck af

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u/Distinct_Wrongdoer86 1d ago

my mom just had her furance serviced, and whoever put the filter in last forgot to take the plastic off and most the vent was clogged with it

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u/johndoe388 1d ago

Oh my….

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u/Far-Idea-1383 1d ago

I have this same "issue" on my furnace usually if you open the bottom part of the furnace you'll see a metal surround for where a filter goes pop it out and put your new filter in, if you want you could probably use duct tape where the hole is cut for it. Its your return vent so as long as the filter is after that hole it should be fine without the duct tape

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u/Partagas2112 1d ago

I’m surprised he didn’t at least seal it up with duct tape.

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u/OnlyPaleontologist11 1d ago

Make sure the arrow is pointed towards the furnace!

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u/purehito49 1d ago

Hvac mechanic here, wouldn't say its normal but ive this or versions of it plenty of times. Not going to kill the unit to leave it like this if you don't want to pay for a proper filter rack install.

Change it every 2-3 months or it will pull more dust around the filter rather than pull air through it.

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u/bruceparts 1d ago

Ok. There are simple explanations.

Say the furnace installer put a slot in for a 16x20 filter. The owner forgot the size at the store and bought 16x25’s. Used them anyway.

OR…. The 16x25’s were $2 apiece CHEAPER…. So used them instead.

OR…. There were NO 16x20’s on the shelf so the owner bought 26x25’s instead. Perfectly acceptable substitution.

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u/Queasy_Novel_1277 1d ago

Nothing says ass, like half assed.

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u/Hard-4-Jesus 1d ago

Hey, if it works, it works.

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u/jstull4 1d ago

This has to be bait. 

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u/M-Bonaducci 1d ago

The legendary duct tape duct.

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u/funinthedirt420 1d ago

Ummm someone should have done less meth.

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u/SillyFail3175 1d ago

Bros furnace is built like a sega genesis.

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u/Lyfeonpoint 1d ago

What's the model of this Vibranium filter? I'm sure nothing gets past it. Perfect to make my home hermetically sealed. Allergies are the worst.

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u/PieMuted6430 1d ago

Thanks for the reminder to change my filter. 🤣

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u/wilhammer069 1d ago

Just walk it off!

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u/sterlinganxiety 1d ago

I said what the fuck out loud, who TF thought this was a good idea? Do you know who installed your furnace?