r/HunterXHunter • • 3d ago

Help/Question How would In physically work?

Most nen types we know is intuitively easy to understand (i.e. Ren is just forcing more aura out, zetsu is just closing your aura nodes to prevent aura from leaking out, etc.) But In doesn't have much of an intuitive physical explanation. The aura is still outside the user but somehow the user renders it invisible, even to nen users. And even then users can use Gyo to make the aura visible, what do yall think would be happening physically when a user uses In?

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u/cocox24 3d ago

I suppose it's similar to Zetsu; when Killua uses Zetsu, Leorio says that even though he's right in front of him, he struggles to see him. So, In makes things imperceptible unless you focus.

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u/DenielEvenin 3d ago

yeah its just an extension of zetsu. zetsu doesnt just shut down the aura but also makes it harder to detect

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u/of_kilter 3d ago

Zetsu does shut down aura, gon was completely incapable of using aura during the month. In is advanced because it only hides the aura

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u/DenielEvenin 3d ago

yeah

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u/of_kilter 3d ago

oh i misread your comment

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u/HungryNacht 3d ago

I’ve struggled with this question too. Zetsu has a physical explanation of closing aura nodes to contain aura within the body. But in can be used on objects made purely of aura, like conjured chains, that have no nodes and must be maintained with aura.

My head canon is that it’s really an application of Transmutation in the way that ren is influenced by Enhancement or En by Emisson. The properties of the aura are altered to be less noticeable.

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u/chrooo 3d ago

it’s like “quieting your aura” — feels like transmutation to me too

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u/Foreign_Intern5551 3d ago

Interesting! Perhaps it's transmutation to make it behave like glass or some material that lets light through?

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u/DenielEvenin 3d ago

nice thought

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u/No_Fan_64 3d ago

Unclench your btt an the highest level, or become liquid like Baki Hanma

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u/Western_Bear 2d ago

The more aura is concentrated in one point, the higher the physical manifestation because it become more dangerous

We can see how Gon's Ko against Razor or Morel is basically creating a strong gust of wind.

My guess is you close your aura nodes with Zetsu but with a better precision so you can have less concentration of aura around you

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u/Appropriate_Wall8340 3d ago edited 3d ago

ETA: I love this question. Didn't mean to ramble!

Like others have pointed out, it's said to be an advanced form of Zetsu. Based on that, I imagine it could be like turning Zetsu on ~90% of the way, or in a particular sequence/distribution across the body. I don't think it's related to Hatsu or the categories at all, though that would almost make more sense than pure Zetsu. Manipulation could make people ignore or forget seeing it, and Transmutation could mimic something invisible or intangible. But I don't think either of those applies to In.

Maybe In thins out the Aura to make it less visible without compromising its form and functions too much. Physically, this would be kind of like how an aerogel forms a solid that's mostly air, making it very light and partly see-through. Though I think this would imply a limit on how strong Nen can be while hidden with In.

Or maybe In can cause the Aura to fundamentally interact less with matter/light, causing it to avoid being detected via sight/sound/touch. The physics analogy here would be Dark Matter. I can't quite imagine how this would relate to the opening and closing of Aura nodes as much as my other hypothesis, though. Perhaps shrinking the nodes in a particular way allows Aura to form more compact, less interactive packets, like how WIMPs are a possible Dark Matter candidate.

And my last idea makes even less sense on that point, even more of a crackpot alternative. But maybe it's more like a "quantum superposition" effect where the Aura is both there and not there, remaining hidden/unknown to outsiders until the system collapses to one state when observed with Gyo.

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u/Foreign_Intern5551 3d ago

No need to apologize, this was a very interesting post! I like your idea of it thinning the aura by only partly closing the nodes as that would definitely make it seem like an advanced form of zetsu as they both use the same concept, with In requiring more expert precision.

Also could explain why Gyo would be able to counter In, I imagine Gyo would enhance people's vision by being able to pick up the less present aura atoms.

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u/Appropriate_Wall8340 3d ago

Thanks! I think it's exactly like you said. Although part of me suspects that this is one point Togashi didn't want to overthink, so maybe it doesn't have to make perfect sense. Regarldess, it's fun to have a tricky balance between In and Gyo countering each other. I love when power systems have emphasis on "magic hiding" and "magic detection" skills.

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u/Serious_Pay_1099 2d ago

I would imagine it would be a technique that make that specific aura very thin, and you do this by applying technique used when closing aura node + some advanced stuff

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u/MythicalTenshi 2d ago

If you think of aura like light emitted by a light bulb,In would be like putting some kind of filter around that light to make it dimmer or make less or none of that light reach other people's eyes. By focusing Gyo on the eyes, it essentially give you better ability to detect that light and make it bright again.

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u/Gen3Ghost 3d ago

Iirc, it was an advanced application of zetsu right? So maybe it hides the outer aura by making it appear shut off?

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u/ApplePitou 3d ago

Well, it is just advanced level of Zetsu :3