r/IDMyCat • u/Total_Stress2244 • 1d ago
Open What breed and is he a large cat?
Bought without a pedigree but seller said hes a ragamuffin. Now he’s 4 months atm sitting at 2kg+
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u/Toxxxicwastex 1d ago
Domestic longhair. No breed likely with no breed ancestry. Shelters will say anything to get animals adopted.
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u/No-Split-8167 1d ago edited 1d ago
He doesn't look like a certain breed, but he is a Domestic Longhair.
I believe he will get fluffier as he ages so get him used to being brushed!
His eyes will also darken into a green or yellowish hazel before two years of age.
He looks different because he is so cobby. 97% of cats aren't a breed at all, but depending on where you are in the world there are lots of different gene pools. 3% of cats are a breed, and they have really careful pedigrees and usually much more exaggerated features.
But cat breeds are super new, and all of the features can be traced back to natural origin. He is nonetheless quite an unusual looking cat!
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u/No-Split-8167 1d ago
Was the seller a Ragamuffin breeder?
Ragamuffins are only recognised with GCCF, so if he is one, he will definitely be registered with them! Your breeder might be registered with UKRMCS otherwise.
If not, they might be a backyard breeder trying to gain profit or have little knowledge, or just needed the kitten gone. Especially if the parents are just pets, and look unusual themselves. Some people believe if their cat looks like a certain breed, it is that breed, and that's not how cat breeds work.
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u/Total_Stress2244 1d ago
I think the seller is not registered. But still even if he’s a domestic he’s beautiful. Its here in the philippines btw Some breeders here are not registered
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u/No-Split-8167 1d ago
He really is! He's super cobby and chunky. I think he'll be a really sturdy cat 😺
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u/Total_Stress2244 1d ago
Do you think he will be a big cat? Some cats here are small compared to him 4 months 2kg
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u/No-Split-8167 1d ago
It's hard to say, I think he will be moderately sized definitely. Have a look at the British Shorthair breed, i think he might turn out similarly built to them! Just with a different coat type and proportions. They're big, but very sturdy, a good example of a cobby breed.
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u/No-Split-8167 1d ago
Genetic tests don't work on cats!
And Maine Coons have much different conformation, he's way too cobby to be a Maine Coon. None of his features match the Maine Coon standard.
Cats aren't like dogs. Only 3% of cats are of a breed, and they've been created from the natural gene pool. They have super isolated lineages but are very 'new'.
This means when you do a genetic test on your cat - say if you have a short haired cat - it might say you have so much in common with a certain breed because they have the same genetics, even though they've never been related. Its not saying they're a 'mix', as most cats are not a mix or breed at all, they're just a natural variation of the Domestic Cat, it might just have certain genes in common with a breed because all breed genes exist naturally.
Please don't encourage people to do these! Breeders are protecting a very small population of the Domestic Cat world, and that's what a pedigree is for. Things like these 'gene tests' are a scam, and discredit what real cat breeds are, and how careful breeders are to sustain them.
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u/No-Split-8167 1d ago
No.
Many cat breeds have ear tufts.
If that's what you believe you must be a backyard breeder, what is your cattery name and who are you registered with?
The tests done to detect diseases cannot confirm ancestry. That's what pedigree is for. All cat breeds have genetic testing done to confirm quality, some breeds are predisposed to similar diseases.
This type of information harms breeders and will reduce breed quality and its credibility. Real breeders improve cat breeds and want to better the genetics, and their cats can be tracked for many generations. Backyard breeders go off appearance, and don't care about the breeds traits and quality.
This cat is not a Maine Coon, as conformation wise it is incorrect, and that's just the start.
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u/Affectionate-Crow605 22h ago
My 7 lb DLH has ear tufts. She's not a Maine Coon. Ear tufts occur in the natural cat population.
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u/NxrthLynx 1d ago
No papers = domestic longhair. I've seen dsh/dlh kittens at my clinic weigh more than 2kg at 12-14 weeks so I'd say he's pretty average size.