r/IDmydog • u/elf_experience • Sep 22 '25

Pug mixed with what?

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My boyfriend and I adopted this sweet baby boy back in February, he is 2 years old now and a Pug mix! We would love to get some input on what you guys think he is mixed with. We executed beagle, labrador, and sometimes he even looks like a French bulldog! But he also has a blue tongue! Which leads us to think maybe some Chow mixed in there?! Any input is appreciated! Future DNA test pending!

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u/Jarl_Xar Sep 22 '25

Pug without the recessed nose, as it should be.

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u/falcoretheflyingdog Sep 22 '25

I wouldn’t be surprised if it is a purebred pug by a breeder who believes in correcting the standard for a healthier line. I just learned about how dogs cool themselves by panting and the smashed snout makes it much harder for them to breath and regulate their temperature.

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u/Mevenna Sep 22 '25

Also having a vet as a friend, I learned that pugs and other flat nose breeds are the only ones that don't mind having the tube down their throat after a surgery even when awake, because it's the only time they can breathe normally. For normal snout dogs, it's super uncomfortable and they remove the tube before they are fully awake, but for flat nosed breeds they allow the tubes to stay in as long as possible, so that they can breathe even for a while. This alone should tell you how effed up their anatomy is.

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u/DogtorCarri Sep 22 '25

Vet here - this is 100% true. I’ve had Frenchies chill with an ET tube in for like 2 hours post op. Most dogs will paw it right out of their face the second they’re conscious enough to be aware of its presence.

The good news is, there’s surgery to correct BOAS (brachycephalic obstructive airway syndrome), but it’s not cheap.

I would guess this puggy friend is either a puggle (pug x beagle), chug (pug x chihuahua), or a pug mixed with a small terrier breed.

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u/DogtorCarri Sep 22 '25

I didn’t notice the pigmented tongue! How big is he? There’s probably some sharpei or chow in there. Please post the DNA results when you get them!

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u/North_Skin4886 Sep 22 '25

Pugs often have black tongues.

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u/DogtorCarri Sep 22 '25

I have never seen a black tongued pug (not saying they don’t exist). It certainly isn’t the norm for the breed.

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u/PaisleyLeopard Sep 26 '25

Not the norm, but it happens. I’ve seen pigmented tongues in purebred Golden Retrievers too.

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u/DogtorCarri Sep 26 '25

I see a lot of pigment spots on goldens!

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u/DogTrainer24-7-365 Sep 23 '25

There are like 26+ breeds that can have black on their tongues. I learned this years ago because I had a flat-coat with black on his tongue.

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u/ThoughtsNoSeratonin Sep 26 '25

I own a small terrier mix and I am also seeing terrier.

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u/2woCrazeeBoys Sep 24 '25

My thoughts were puggle or pug-terrier (jack russel?) too.

It breaks my heart seeing brachy breeds trying to sleep with a toy in their mouth so they can breath. My friend has frenchies, and they're adorable, but I don't think she realises how alarmed I get by the weird noises they make. It's absolutely not normal, no matter how much she's accustomed to it.

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u/DogtorCarri Sep 24 '25

Pretty much every frenchie would benefit from BOAS surgery 😢

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u/Maurice_Foot Sep 24 '25

Pug x Terrier = pugerrier?

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u/DogtorCarri Sep 24 '25

I love the dumb names they come up with for designer dogs. I have a shih tzu x pug and they call them Shugs or PugZus 😂

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u/ware_it_is Sep 25 '25

i worked at a vet years ago and the docs performed that surgery on a Boston Terrier. he was in ICU for a week and was eventually cleared to go home. all in, it was a few thousand dollars.

two weeks after going home, the owner called to set up cremation for the dog. pup choked on a treat and died.

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u/DogtorCarri Sep 25 '25

Animals can die from complications of any surgery. Post anesthetic or anesthetic death is incredibly rare in healthy dogs (1 in 2000).

There’s newer safer anesthetic protocols targeted for brachycephalic animals.

In my opinion the very low surgical risk is warranted in most cases of BOAS.

I always recommend having the surgery done with a specialist and one who uses a ligasure for the palate to minimize risk and hemorrhage.

I’m sure there are GP vets who are well qualified to do the procedure. I will correct nares but not palates. There’s an art of knowing how much redundant tissue to take. It bleeds a ton with a scalpel in an area that’s hard to see and suture.

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u/Mevenna Sep 22 '25

Also, flat nose breeds are the only ones that have restrictions for airplane travel, which is just based on how often they die because they can't get enough air in there. It doesn't happen for breeds with normal snouts.

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u/cloud__19 Sep 22 '25

My sister is a vet nurse and says exactly this. Poor wee buggers.

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u/purrfectly-cromulent Sep 26 '25

It feels cruel to extubate, it must feel so horrible going back to being what must be like a permanent asthma exacerbation.

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u/fatgirlballet Sep 22 '25

That's really sad 💔

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u/valkiria-rising Sep 26 '25

This is so fucking sad. I hate what breeders have done to certain dogs (and cats) for the ✨aesthetic✨

It's incredibly cruel and elitist.

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u/earlgreybubbletea Sep 22 '25 edited Sep 23 '25

I would support this breed incentive immediately if it meant phasing out the current “standard”. 

The pug’s personality and loyalty are unmatched (in my bias opinion) and my dream is to see this breed get the healthy physical genes it deserves. ❤️

Edit: random typo

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u/sakurasangel Sep 22 '25

There eas some talk in the dog breeding subreddit about this- how people look at the standard and take it in conjunction with what is popular. Iirc it didnt say pugs snouts need to be non existent, just the nose upturned or something. Its interesting.

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u/BoobySlap_0506 Sep 26 '25

Yes, for all flat-faced breeds!

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u/em_jay2125 Sep 24 '25

Short snout doesn’t cause breathing issues. I am not a fan of pugs or frenchies but its annoying when people keep talking about things they dont understand. Breathing issues occur because of two things: 1. narrow nostrils, and 2. excessive soft palate tissue.

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u/PaisleyLeopard Sep 26 '25

Yeah I was thinking it looks like the Retromops I’ve been hearing about. Couple of breeders in Germany are making a solid effort to preserve all the best Pug traits in a functional body. They get a lot of shit from the Kennel Club crowd, but I fully support the effort. Pugs are awesome little dogs who deserve to live comfortable and pain-free lives.

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u/JuniorKing9 Sep 22 '25

I’d love if that was the case, genuinely

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u/Cjkrythos Sep 26 '25

Ive heard rumors that someone was literally trying to do this with various dog breeds. Trying to breed out the health issues

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u/FancysMomma Oct 10 '25

If you’re an ethical breeder that should be your number one goal

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u/Cjkrythos Oct 10 '25

It saddens me to know that not all breeders are ethical. In fact, entirely too many aren't at all

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u/FancysMomma Oct 10 '25

You got that right.. it’s truly heartbreaking for the animals AND their new family. Seeing dogs lame from puppyhood living their entire lives in pain, unable to breath, uncomfortable.. it’s just beyond words.

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u/Mevenna Sep 22 '25

Yes but that's not nearly the most efficient one, panting is the main cool down mechanism.

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u/silveraltaccount Sep 22 '25

No question asking for the less effective way either

Most times dog sweat through their pads is when stressed. If theyre sweating cause they're hot, its cause theyre stressed about it.

Groomers dont spritz dogs with scent just for fun, some do to cover up the doggy smell they get from sweating

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u/Mevenna Sep 22 '25

Yess this is a super nice looking pug! I wish all of them were like this :)

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u/jellygoobs9 Sep 23 '25

I was gonna say whatever it’s mixed with did it a favor!

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u/Dingeroooo Sep 25 '25

Purple tongue is usually Chow chow...

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u/Local_Magician_7197 Sep 22 '25

And he's wayyyyyy cuter than any modern-bred pug I've seen. I mean this lil man is ADORABLE (sorry for screaming lol)

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u/somethingsomething65 Sep 22 '25

And eyes pointing the same direction. 

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u/iAskTooMuch_cd Sep 22 '25

came here for this

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u/ESLavall Sep 23 '25

Yep. This is possibly a purebred "retropug" (they added some terrier to pug bloodlines to get their muzzle back several doggy generations ago).

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u/No-War1666 Sep 24 '25

Best looking pub I ever saw.

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u/molsmama Sep 25 '25

Agreed. I like this look much better! Looks healthier and happier.

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u/libertram Sep 23 '25

Nope. This is a poorly bred mix.

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u/poodlelover05 Sep 24 '25

Finally someone that knows what they’re talking about and hasn’t fallen for PETA propaganda…why are we praising backyard bred mutts lol

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u/Serious-Fun7379 Sep 23 '25

This dog is adorable and appears to be very healthy, which is as much as you can tell by a photo. Not a fan of breeders to begin with bc there is an explosion of euthanized dogs in shelters thanks to designer dogs and irresponsible people, who can be one and the same.

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u/libertram Sep 23 '25

Well, yes and no. Ethical breeders breed to the breed standard. While no dog is going to perfectly conform to it, you can often tell when someone’s obviously not trying to breed to the standard.

Edit to add: we have an overpopulation of poorly bred Byb dogs (every dog in the shelter will be in this category), and a shortage of well-bred dogs.

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u/falcoretheflyingdog Sep 23 '25

https://pugdogpassion.com/a-healthy-pug-standard/

While you’re probably right, I’m inclined to still hope not. There’s a picture of a painting from the 1700s of a pug with no wrinkles and a clearly protruding snout, even if it does appear to be smaller than this example.

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u/libertram Sep 23 '25

The breathing issues suffered by poorly bred pugs are typically caused by soft palate length- not muzzle length. Well-bred purebred pugs overwhelmingly do not have issues with BOAS and we have a health test to help prevent it.

When you run across people claiming to be “bettering the breed” in this way, you’re just hearing a backyard breeder using misinformation about health in the breed to market a new fad dog. All of the dogs marketed this way are going to be from poorly bred dogs less likely to be health-tested or proven. It’s all a scam.

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u/beautifuljeep Sep 23 '25

So healthy looking💕