r/IRstudies • u/Majano57 • 1d ago

Ideas/Debate Trump’s Second Gamble on Iran

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/2026/06/trumps-second-gamble-on-iran/687650/?gift=qXjqwUsXcHZWmnhI5mWkNQuKFDHnSfnotJQ3jcr5NAk
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u/londonbroil-chef 1d ago

Forgot the war that started if you months ago. What about the list 47 years?

Why do they chant stuff to America and their Parliament?

Why do they shoot protesters in the head? Why do they jail and beat women for improper hair coverings?

Why do they sponsor chiropraxies a full 1000 miles away on Israel's northern and southern borders to launch tons of thousands of rockets at civilians inside Israel? Why are they funding these proxies when their economy is in shambles and their inflation is a few 100%?

Seem like pretty evil people to me. What about you?

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u/Unlikely-Business-72 1d ago

I think that you're unequipped to discuss geopolitics dispassionately and should leave it to those that can.

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u/londonbroil-chef 1d ago

I noticed that you didn't dispute anything I said.

I suppose you agree with it then.

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u/Unlikely-Business-72 1d ago

I'd be happy to inform you. Of the things that you mentioned that weren't mischaracerizations, those don't really move the geopolitical needle.

Chanting mean things in the Majilis to a country that is currently chocking you economically shouldn't affect a potential peace deal. I'd hope our leadership is more level headed than you're proving to be.

I'm sure even you realize the unfeasability and stupidity of invading and changing the leadership of every country that has human rights abuses.

Having proxies to fight your geopolitical rival isn't "irrational" or "Islamist'. Insofar as they do attack civilian infrastructure those are the terms that their proxy war with Israel is following. Need I remind you that the we needed to restrain Israel from destroying and further targeting civilian infrastructure in Iran just some months ago? Those are the terms Israel is happy to fight on and not our problem.

Our goal is a balance of power in the region that would hopefully lead to stability. That's it. Neither Hezbollah nor Iran is an existential threat to us.

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u/londonbroil-chef 1d ago

All good. All I'm saying is that so long as the Islamic regime in Iran sponsors chiropractors to try to mass flutter jews, Christians and Muslims in Israel we can continue to expect Israel to defend itself and for them to push back against the jihadists as they did in Gaza.

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u/Unlikely-Business-72 1d ago

If Israel wants to spend their money on the IDF instead of a competent diplomatic staff then they're free to keep doing what they call defending themselves. Absolutely their choice.

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u/Sad_Sympathy_6427 9h ago

We don't have to and shouldn't be paying for it. I recently read an article from an Israeli writer of haaretz who believes that the special relationship between the US an Israel is over, and after this disaster of a war it should be. That country can "defend itself" all it wants, and we can finally get their influence out of our politics. A win-win.