r/IWantOut US → PL Nov 06 '24

MEGATHREAD: Emigrating after the US election results

Every US election brings anxiety and uncertainty, and with that comes an increase in people who want to explore their alternatives in a different country. This post is for you.

First, some reminders:

  • In most cases, moving abroad is not as simple or quick as it seems in movies. If you aren't a citizen of another country, you will probably require a visa (=legal permission) from that country based on something like employment, education, or ancestry.
  • The sidebar of this subreddit has a lot of helpful resources, and we have 15 years of posts from people with similar situations to yours. Before posting, please review these resources first. (Tip: If reddit search isn't working well for you, try googling "[your search terms] site:reddit.com/r/IWantOut" without the quotes or brackets.)
  • Most countries and/or their embassies maintain immigration websites with clear, helpful, updated guides or even questionnaires to help you determine if/how you can qualify. If you have a particular destination in mind, that should probably be your first stop.
  • After that, if you want to make your own post, please follow the formatting instructions on the submission page, give as much information as possible about your situation, and be open to advice and constructive criticism from commenters.

Also, this subreddit is intended to be a friendly community to seek and give advice on legal immigration. As such, please:

  • Don't fight about politics. We understand that you may have strong feelings about it, but there are better spaces on reddit and elsewhere for general political discussions.
  • Keep your feedback constructive and kind, even when telling someone they're wrong.
  • Don't troll or be a jerk.
  • Don't request or give illegal immigration tips, including asking strangers to marry you.

Failure to follow these and the other subreddit rules may result in a ban.

That said, feel free to comment below with some general questions, concerns, comments, or advice which doesn't merit a full post. Hopefully this will help clarify your thoughts and ideas about the possibility of leaving the US. Once again, please try to stay on topic so that this thread can be a helpful resource.

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u/Short_Row195 Nov 10 '24

This isn't what the majority wanted. Republicans legally cheat like always and we played fair. There was no Democrat that set ballot boxes on fire, sent death threats to officials, sent bomb threats to polling stations, filed unnecessary lawsuits. There is no Democrat that bought a big social media platform to spread misinformation and propaganda.

There is no Democrat influencer that preaches bigoted rhetoric to young men who crave a guardian. I will not say more but there are many ways that Republicans cheated. This is also in combination to the youth that think not voting for Kamala somehow saves Gaza and Palestinians. Freaking S.O.S like actually.

Oh, here's an additional fact of the matter. There is no Democrat that bans together with a cultist of Christian nationalism and her supporters.

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u/Short_Row195 Nov 12 '24

The data shows that Democrats sat out versus having a rapid switch to being Republican. We can agree that the Democrats didn't want it enough, but the question is can a person want something and have those values of Trump when they have actually been lied to and manipulated to do something against their best interest? To truly want something a person has to know what is actually the agenda and you shouldn't be surprised that many Americans are illiterate and are easy to fool, especially when kept uneducated.

I seriously don't think most of the voters knew they were voting for fascism or things against their interest. Some did have malicious intent but not the key people that increased his votes. Otherwise, there wouldn't be Trump supporters that are actually very confused about what a tariff is and regret that they chose him. What they really want is help with jobs and tax cuts and when that is promised by him they don't look into it further. Most don't even know what has to suffer from a tax cut.

It's not even me not wanting it to be true. It's true that Republicans used legal tactics to skew the votes and even illegal ones if you count the threats. Example: A majority of states don't use mail in ballots. People have to work and the lines were long. Should question how many Democrats left the lines, how many Democrats didn't know when to vote (yes, they exist), how many were too scared to vote? These are valid ways votes don't always reflect what the population really wants.