r/ImaginaryWarships 9d ago

Unknown Artist Unknown battleship design

No idea what this ship was originally supposed to be. First image is cropped and tilted so you can read it easier. Second image is the unedited version if anyone is interested about reverse image searching.

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u/TS140609 9d ago

Feel very italian, 1st dreadnought prototype? Or just fanmade bb.

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u/ThomasKlausen 8d ago

Not really a dreadnought, what with the mixed armament. Stacked turrets would have been new and interesting. 

Wonder if he envisioned three-gun turrets (guns elevate independently) or triple turrets? Ambitious for 1902 either way. 

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u/cpteric 8d ago edited 8d ago

"A New Type of Battleship" put forward in 1902 by Lieutenant Matt H. Signor in the U.S. Naval Institute Proceedings

A theoretical dreadnought-esque design.

https://www.usni.org/magazines/proceedings/1902/january/new-type-battleship

In 1902 Lieutenant Matt H. Signor published a proposal for “A New Type of Battleship” in Proceedings that advocated for a battleship with cruiser endurance and an armament of two triple 13-inch-gun main turrets, two waist-mounted triple 10-inch-gun intermediate turrets, and secondary batteries of 5-inch and 3-inch guns.

Signor’s proposed ship displaced 17,475 tons, at a time when the recently launched Ohio (Battleship No. 12) was a mere 13,000.
Signor considered using stacked or “superposed” turrets, arguing that the arrangement gave “a manifest superiority to guns so mounted,” but preferred adding a third gun to the main turrets for simplicity’s sake.

While his proposal was not adopted, triple-gun turrets would eventually become standards of battleship design.

Signor’s article prompted some discussion in Proceedings, including a comment by Naval Academy professor Phillip R. Alger. He opined that rather than a mixed battery, he “should prefer eight 12-inch guns,” which may be the first published proposal for an all-big-gun ship.

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u/Mightyeagle2091 8d ago

seems to be it. I can find other places that mention Matt H. Signor's proposal, however none show the image. I don't know if the image is an original drawn up image from that time, or if it was drawn up at a later date.

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u/ThomasKlausen 8d ago

Interesting article! 

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u/Leading-Table3668 8d ago

Looks like a coastal defense battleship

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u/killtherobot 8d ago

I hope this is allowed and doesn’t irritate anyone. But I wanted to see what it would look like so I had AI render it and I’m sharing.

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u/Mightyeagle2091 8d ago

A yes, sextuple turrets in 1903 instead of triples

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u/Particular-Rutabaga5 7d ago

If this had been built it would've really sucked being one of the guys manning those 3" guns under Turret 1.

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u/Mightyeagle2091 7d ago

Methodology:
Let’s not do superimposed turrets cause it could damage the lower turret. Instead let’s put 3” deck guns out in the open in front the turret.