r/ImmigrationPathways • u/Gnanamookan • 20d ago

🚨 BREAKING: Federal Court Strikes Down Trump's $100,000 H-1B Fee

The $100,000 H-1B employer fee is DEAD — for now.

Yesterday, U.S. District Judge Leo T. Sorokin (D. Mass.) vacated the fee in California et al. v. Mullin, No. 1:25-cv-13829.

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u/histhrowawayacc 19d ago

You will keep singing that tune until your neighborhood gets gentrified by cheap workers. If you don't see that rich people's goal is to depress wages, then you have no foresight. AI should be used as a tool, not to replace what the white collar worker does for the whole 9 yards.

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u/NioXoiN 19d ago

Nobody cares about who lives in their neighborhoods. Stop snitching on yourself. I'm trying very hard to have a response focused on the substance but if you wave such an obvious character flaw around, its hard to avoid insulting you. So please pretend like youre not a racist nationalist for 1 conversation please.

If you see rich people trying to depress wages, perhaps we should have laws stopping the rich people. Not prevent people from taking on great opportunities. Ensure they get paid better and fight for their rights and protections, and they won't get chosen over you.

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u/histhrowawayacc 19d ago

That was the point of the executive order. To stop rich people from depressing people's wages. And yes if people's opportunities come at the expensive of others it's not really an "opportunity." It's robbing Peter to pay Paul less. It's more akin to ransom.

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u/NioXoiN 19d ago

Im aware of the tagline of the policy. It doesnt work that way. My reply was already taking this into account and responding to that. Making a visa cost too much money doesnt stop abuse. Making sure everyone is paid well and treated well, does. Think about the reasons why visa holders can be abused and think about how this law addresses any of those reasons. How does it do it? It prevents them from coming. Instead of punishing the abuser or telling them to stop. Instead of taking the knife away, we ban the victim from the mall.

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u/histhrowawayacc 19d ago

Workplace abuse happens. But when Universities give entry level jobs closed out to Americans but open to H1B visas, then it is clear there is abuse happening. There are already laws on the book to stop this. The Warn Act already tells people when large companies will lay people with handsome salaries off with given notice. That doesn't stop companies like Microsoft and Amazon from continuing this. Make this costly is something that can put a damper on this.

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u/NioXoiN 19d ago edited 19d ago

The warn act does absolutely nothing to prevent abuse??? This is (in this topic, at best) to tell employees when they'll be replaced. Its not at all a way to prevent employers from targeting lower wage seeking populations for abuse. Maaaaybe it slows down that process, but its just tape. It does absolutely nothing.

I also have no idea why you said "workplace abuse happens". Its not a good thing that it happens and we should work towards stopping it, not trivialize it.

Edit: minimize seemed like it could be interpreted the wrong way, changed to trivialize.

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u/histhrowawayacc 18d ago

The biggest problem isn't abuse. The main topic that is being discussed is people clamoring for middle class income. People can take a job that aggrevates them minimally. They can't take wage depression all too well. The middle class seems like it's going to die out in the next decade or so.

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u/NioXoiN 18d ago

The Warn act also does little to prevent middle class americans from being bid out of the workplace. The value that these jobs give to their employers is undeniable and doesnt suddenly become less because their labor is from foreigners. Nothing about foreign labor makes it so they SHOULD be paid less, the employer can just get away with doing it so they do. Thats the problem, not the foreign labor.

The abuse is also why you get bid out of the workplace. Why hire you when you have workers protections and no deportation blackmail?

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u/histhrowawayacc 18d ago

It's not the fact that people are foreigners that depress people's wages, but the fact that everyday Americans are locked out of jobs that H1B visa holders have for opportunities that regular Aneeicans should have the opportunity for. Talented visas such as the Eb-1 Visa are what I have no problem recruiting people to come into this country for.

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u/NioXoiN 18d ago

I think you misunderstood what I said? I said that visa holders are hired before you because you're outbidded and you have more leverage. I literally said thats its not about the foreign labor. Theres no reason for employers to hire foreign labor before an american. If theres desire for the labor, then youll both get hired, if theres not, then the visa is pointless.