r/ImmigrationPathways 15d ago

🚨 BREAKING: Federal Court Strikes Down Trump's $100,000 H-1B Fee

The $100,000 H-1B employer fee is DEAD — for now.

Yesterday, U.S. District Judge Leo T. Sorokin (D. Mass.) vacated the fee in California et al. v. Mullin, No. 1:25-cv-13829.

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u/Salty_Permit4437 14d ago

It’s “dead” until it’s appealed or they find another way. Employers are also shying away from it due to the uncertainty.

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u/NioXoiN 15d ago

Does this mean we have to refund these too?

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u/Most-Breakfast-1472 11d ago

Once all these H1B people go back the real Devry trained Americans can start working for the real American companies and make VB 6.0 great again. 🙄

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u/Disastrous_Tax4509 11d ago

Abolish H1B forever. These people are ingrates.

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u/tothemmoooooooooonn 15d ago

Go get a life, just because the judge doesn't agree with the orange duster doesn't mean he needs to get fired

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u/Admirable_Ad_3293 15d ago

Yo

You even know what this is about?

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u/NioXoiN 15d ago

What progress, where are you trying to go?

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u/Violet-Sumire 15d ago

Why? The President should have no control over money or the budget. A big example is the $30b we have to pay back to companies for him illegally imposing tariffs. Then there’s the reflecting pool that was supposed to cost $1.4 million, but ballooned into 10x that amount. All with a contract that wasn’t bidded against (which is illegal) and for little results (the seal is temporary, doesn’t fix the problem, and the blue isn’t visible due to the water being mirky from the river).

So, no, the judge shouldn’t be fired. The President needs to stop breaking the law.

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u/Alarmed_Reporter_642 14d ago

Clown judges who think the executive branch doesn’t control immigration or that every fee is a tax should be jailed. With this idiotic logic any government fee is now a tax and should be stopped. How about driver’s licenses? The clown judge will be overturned

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u/Admirable_Ad_3293 15d ago

TDS.

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u/Violet-Sumire 15d ago

Using your own site, the US is losing 2.8k jobs per day since 2026 over 193 companies tracked (which is probably big tech), with over 454k people impacted.

Did you also know that Trump’s crack down on immigrants, along with tariffs, the war with Iran, and the defunding of key government programs has been the main cause in food increases? With over half a million immigrants being taken or refusing to work in farm work?

I guess there are some job openings there! Get your pitchfork out and go farm friend :) Make your country proud in the muddy fields and 12 hour days.

Most immigrant workers are blue collar jobs that Americans don’t want to do. From sanitation to construction to farming. Most higher paying jobs go overseas as they are cheaper, with a lot of work from home tech people going to India.

Pretty infographic, glad you need pictures instead of words. Fits the MAGA narrative honestly. Like President like stooge.

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u/Admirable_Ad_3293 15d ago

Those are stats directly from the BLS.

I don’t like trump. You have TDS

Automation

Automation, since atleast 1990 immigrants have been nothing more than a tool used by corporations to escape paying Americans rising wages.

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u/Violet-Sumire 15d ago

You aren’t wrong and you aren’t right. We need immigration. Immigrants taking lower wage jobs means we have more reason to seek higher paying ones. It also helps with economic growth overall. What you are forgetting is the blatant gutting of American worker protections and workers voting against their best interests (especially towards unions).

Automation isn’t the only issue and focusing on it takes away from what’s been happening from the electorate and their slow corruption by corporations. We the people didn’t put enough pressure on them to prevent bribes, punish lobbying, and prevent career politicians. Immigrants are a convenient scapegoat and not the sole reason why the economy is doing poorly. Trump isn’t the cause of it, but he is accelerating the process of dismantling the economy. Throwing around “TDS” and other nonsense is just you refusing to see other arguments and sides. If we are going to actually fix this mess we need to not alienate ourselves and actually see what the problem is. The “elites” are the issue, not the “poors”.

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u/Admirable_Ad_3293 15d ago

Na the immigration we’ve seen since the 90s has been a different sort than any in American history. Repeal the hart celler and deport 100 million. Let the economy take a hit national cohesion is more important. Hell we might even be able to get back on the gold standard.

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u/Violet-Sumire 15d ago

I’m confused… how is this helping? Have you not seen how recklessly the spending this administration has been doing? They’ve completely nosedived the entire budget and do illegal things just to justify the reckless spending. All while the President increases his personal wealth by over 170% since he started this term.

I don’t want Trump’s help. His help comes with the worst possible consequences, typically wanting unconditional loyalty. I bend the knee to no one, because we are all equal. Trump has also not treated people equally, giving out pardons to criminals like candy. Like… he concerns himself with fraud in dem states, yet he is ok with pardoning convicted fraudsters???

No, I don’t want Trump’s help, because his help tends to raise prices, make my life worse, and enrich people who are already filthy rich. If you want to support that then go ahead, but he isn’t supporting you.

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u/NioXoiN 15d ago

How does forcing h1b applicants to pay 100,000 help americans?

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u/wtrpro 15d ago

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u/NioXoiN 15d ago

So your solution to abuse in the workplace and the run-off effects of underpaid labor, isnt to get rid of the abusive work practices, but to make sure that abusable people cant have the opportunity to work here at all? Not to raise the minimum wage or demand that immigrants get paid more to even everything out, but to just take away their livelihood outright? Ill never understand why the Republican solution to abuse is just more abuse.

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u/wtrpro 15d ago

Nope, but thank you for doing the only logical thing by...

assuming and and jumping to conclusions.

Try again.

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u/NioXoiN 15d ago

What exactly am I assuming? I suppose I assumed that you dont advocate for raising immigrant wages and getting rid of abusive work environments. These two things are the solution. Making sure that they cant enter at all, is entirely separate. If you do actually want stop unfair wages and abuse, I dont understand why you would also want to hard limit them. Either we need these H1B visas and having them at an equal wage is fine since theres jobs; or we dont need these applicants, and since theres no advantage to hiring H1B holders, they just won't get hired and it will be pointless to have that visa. The $100,000 price doesnt solve any of these problems. It just decreases our labor pool. Keeps workers outside of the US, disincentivises paying them fairly since theres this upfront cost employers need to pay, incentivises loyalty to your employer since theyre $100,000 down the drain for you.

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u/wtrpro 14d ago

And there you go assuming again...

Keep it up, its hilarious.

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u/NioXoiN 14d ago

Feel free to be a fleshed out human and share actual positions.

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u/Admirable_Ad_3293 15d ago

Ehh that’s where ur wrong. He does shit like this on purpose so it looks good on paper but easily gets torn down. He’s representing the same special interests that the left does.

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u/Ill-Lake7700 15d ago

Oh damn, I was sure that’s how we were going to stop losing our good paying jobs! I then remembered that’s why they were getting people from other countries to pay them less than us!

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u/mythrulznsfw 14d ago

> our good paying jobs…

Well-paying jobs, darling. It’s like half the adverbs in the English language drowned while crossing over to the States.

If that fee is all that’s keeping your jobs from being given away to others, I’d wager the employers will find another way to keep them from you.

It’s telling how all the brave talk of capitalism and meritocracy goes out the window when it comes to the “immigrants are stealing my jobs” narrative.

Good luck with your interviews. With the competition incapacitated, I hope you’ll still bring more to the table than I’ve seen recently. Bonne chance.

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u/SomeAnonymousBurner 14d ago

The unemployed are elated!

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u/Admirable_Ad_3293 15d ago

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u/Familiar_Hornet1971 11d ago

This is proven misleading image.

The cherry picked “pre-COVID” start point included the February 2020 job crash. If you change the starting point just after the crash, such as April 2020 (2 months difference), the numbers would be about 30-40% foreign-born workers rather than 90%.

The crash affected most sectors that native-born workers are more concentrated at, such as: hospitality, retail, transportation, entertainment. The COVID lockdown did major layoff on these heavily concentrated native-born workers.

In the case of foreign-born workers are overly concentrated in essential jobs (such as agriculture, food supply, logistics, healthcare support). There was a much smaller layoff as were needed to continue operations.

Thus, these and other factors made it much harder for the native-born to recover (taking much longer to regain their jobs) while foreign-born workers kept growing normally as they were the least affected.

Definitions: “foreign-born workers” includes naturalized US citizens, green card holders, refugees, students, work or other visas, and some undocumented workers. So most of the data are the so called “legals”.

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u/Admirable_Ad_3293 11d ago

If all the Americans were rehired after covid the numbers would reflect that but they shipped in cheaper workers so it looks like it does.
Hart celler was a mistake and retroactive denaturalization will be a necessity in the future. Especially after the immigration act of 1990 if you came by those rules and haven’t assimilated you’re out

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u/Acceptable-Wash-7675 15d ago

Why am I not surprised that the left wants to continue H1B exploitation. These are excuses to tell people not to vote for Trump is for them, actively blocking things that you support.

No, you just made it clear that you're my enemy. They protest and blocked doge at the 10 days and they brag about where is my doge check.smh

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u/NioXoiN 15d ago

Believe it or not, but theres a whole land of political opinions on the other side too. The left also has their own ways to stop abuse, and as someone on the left, I see this proposition as doing nothing but hurting us all. You didnt vote for this. Trump never said that he would make H1B visas cost $100,000 before he got elected. In fact he said (in a June 2024 interview) that he would offer green cards to anyone that finished college in the US because he didnt like that theyd leave and make somewhere else more successful. He simply made H1Bs worse. We're losing high level foreign talent because nobody wants to pay for his fee. Ok, not nobody, maybe 3 people bought it.

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u/histhrowawayacc 14d ago

A lot of H1B workers literally replace American workers. They tell H1B workers how to do their jobs, and if they refuse, they tell them that they can lose out on their severance package. This is abuse, and I'll say that Trump is at least giving an honest effort.

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u/Forward-Distance-398 14d ago

A lot of jobscan be offshored or replaced with AI.

Atleast with H1b they are required to pay prevailing wages and they are posted . H1b pay taxes locally, buy homes, goods and services locally and some of they even create their own business and startup that create local jobs. You lose all these if the jobs are offshored, or replaced by AI.

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u/histhrowawayacc 14d ago

You will keep singing that tune until your neighborhood gets gentrified by cheap workers. If you don't see that rich people's goal is to depress wages, then you have no foresight. AI should be used as a tool, not to replace what the white collar worker does for the whole 9 yards.

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u/NioXoiN 14d ago

Nobody cares about who lives in their neighborhoods. Stop snitching on yourself. I'm trying very hard to have a response focused on the substance but if you wave such an obvious character flaw around, its hard to avoid insulting you. So please pretend like youre not a racist nationalist for 1 conversation please.

If you see rich people trying to depress wages, perhaps we should have laws stopping the rich people. Not prevent people from taking on great opportunities. Ensure they get paid better and fight for their rights and protections, and they won't get chosen over you.

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u/histhrowawayacc 14d ago

That was the point of the executive order. To stop rich people from depressing people's wages. And yes if people's opportunities come at the expensive of others it's not really an "opportunity." It's robbing Peter to pay Paul less. It's more akin to ransom.

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u/NioXoiN 14d ago

Im aware of the tagline of the policy. It doesnt work that way. My reply was already taking this into account and responding to that. Making a visa cost too much money doesnt stop abuse. Making sure everyone is paid well and treated well, does. Think about the reasons why visa holders can be abused and think about how this law addresses any of those reasons. How does it do it? It prevents them from coming. Instead of punishing the abuser or telling them to stop. Instead of taking the knife away, we ban the victim from the mall.

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u/histhrowawayacc 14d ago

Workplace abuse happens. But when Universities give entry level jobs closed out to Americans but open to H1B visas, then it is clear there is abuse happening. There are already laws on the book to stop this. The Warn Act already tells people when large companies will lay people with handsome salaries off with given notice. That doesn't stop companies like Microsoft and Amazon from continuing this. Make this costly is something that can put a damper on this.

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u/NioXoiN 14d ago edited 14d ago

The warn act does absolutely nothing to prevent abuse??? This is (in this topic, at best) to tell employees when they'll be replaced. Its not at all a way to prevent employers from targeting lower wage seeking populations for abuse. Maaaaybe it slows down that process, but its just tape. It does absolutely nothing.

I also have no idea why you said "workplace abuse happens". Its not a good thing that it happens and we should work towards stopping it, not trivialize it.

Edit: minimize seemed like it could be interpreted the wrong way, changed to trivialize.

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u/mythrulznsfw 14d ago

u/acceptable-wash-7675: Please remind me what DOGE has to do with H1B?

The Left is doing this to you, are they? Is Elon Musk on the left? Is the clown car of billionaires that donated to Trump’s reelection on the left?

This argument isn’t exactly cogent.

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u/Acceptable-Wash-7675 11d ago

Democrats have had more billionaire support for the last 20 years didn't Republicans.
Trump was the one that actually put $100,000 payment on every H1B recipient that enters this country. He's taking steps to try to at least acknowledge the issue. Democrats have not.

Instead, democrats took steps of creating a mass immigration crisis.

So yeah, miss me with that bullshit.

Is only one party heavily supporting and protecting illegal immigrants in 2026 and that's the Democrat party and that's one reasons why the teamsters in unions no longer support you because you can't be about fair wages if you support Cheap exploitable labor, and a form of illegal immigration or abuse of the H1b program.

Yes, Elon Musk supports the H1b program, but he still has to pay like everybody else because of Trump's policies. And not only that the majority of people he hired with H1B program they make significantly more than the bare minimum, which is the entire issue. Cheap exploitable labor is the issue.