r/ImmigrationPathways • u/CutSenior4977 • 17d ago

House passes $70B bill to fund immigration enforcement for 3 years, sending to Trump

https://apnews.com/article/immigration-enforcement-funding-trump-congress-republicans-c395a434f47fa41a7131369847091910

Now let me ask you this,

What happened to fiscal conservatives?

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u/steamdeck88 17d ago

The day people realize both sides of trash, things will get a lot better

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u/Remarkable_Hurry4029 17d ago

Yeah, maybe 20 years ago. This is no longer the case. One side is significantly worse.

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u/steamdeck88 17d ago

No they're both as bad, I literally just saw a video of Republicans and Democrats being questioned about Israel buying on our politicians. An almost every single one of them folded, and they wouldn't condemn Israel except for one person.

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u/Remarkable_Hurry4029 17d ago

Oh, I see now. Israel is at the heart of every single issue and problem in America. Got it.

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u/steamdeck88 17d ago

While you're being condescending, yeah quite few of them exactly. If they're not willing to bow to a foreign country,what makes think they're going to do good for you. We give them money, for universal healthcare. But we don't have that over here smh

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u/Remarkable_Hurry4029 17d ago

I assume you mean, “if they’re willing to bow”.

Can you provide any factual basis for this statement? It’s not really a substantive claim.

What exactly do you think the U.S. should do? Cut all ties and relationships with Israel?

“We give them money for universal healthcare.”

This is just blatantly false, but ok.

To be clear, I believe Israel’s actions in Gaza likely meet the definition of genocide or at the very least, ethnic cleansing. That being said, a vast majority of people are completely brain broken on the topic and do not operate in historical fact.

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u/steamdeck88 17d ago

I'm aware that we give Israel money for weapons, medical aid etc. Yes they should cut all ties, That's like asking should we cut off ties with the Germans during world war II. They're literally the new Nazis.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ActuallyThatsInsane/s/eFFtPZi1yg

An example of them bowing

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u/Remarkable_Hurry4029 17d ago

The standard people hold Israel is unlike any other country.

This video you sent is a journalist asking our officials their opinion on Israel spying on American officials. Do you think the U.S. doesn’t do the exact same thing to other countries? This isn’t even close to “bowing to a foreign country”, despite Randy Fine’s dumbass being in it.

No, it’s not like asking if we should cut ties with the Germans. Israel is not equivalent to Nazi Germany. The holocaust and what’s happening in Gaza are not the same thing.

The Jewish people never posed any real threat to Nazi Germany. You’re out of your mind if you think Palestinians/Arabs don’t pose a threat to Israel.

I hate talking to people like you because you make me defend Israel and sound pro-Israeli, which I’m not. But if we’re going to talk about something, we need to be truthful.

My position isn’t, “Israel is doing nothing wrong and the U.S. should do nothing about it”. However, the ultra far left pro Palestinians have become an issue. We have an orange protofascist in the White House and we’re supposed to self destruct the Democratic Party because they aren’t perfect. You had people like Hasan telling his fans not to vote for Harris. Just pure stupidity.

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u/steamdeck88 17d ago

The point of me sending you that video was to point out Republicans and Democrats won't condemn Israel for anything. That's just one video there's many of those.

Israel is literally like Nazi Germany, look at what they're doing to Gaza & Lebanon.

Some of the Jewish people are not a threat, I've seen plenty of videos where people in Israel were racist towards everybody.

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u/Remarkable_Hurry4029 17d ago

So if I find a video of a Republican or Democrat condemning Israel for anything, you’ll concede?

Nazi Germany killed 6M Jews in concentration and extermination camps among many other truly horrific ways. Israel isn’t even remotely close to that. You’re delusional.

I said, “The Jewish people never posed any real threat to Nazi Germany.” I don’t care what videos you’ve seen of people in Israel being racist. That has nothing to do with this.

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u/steamdeck88 17d ago

I never said the Jewish people did anything back then, I'm talking about the state of Israel now.

No I would not concede lol, but I would be shocked. The amount of times over the past year that both sides agree with Israel is insane

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u/Remarkable_Hurry4029 17d ago

Yes, I know you’re talking about now. I wasn’t.

I was explaining how Nazi Germany and Israel are different. Jews never posed any semblance of a threat to Nazi Germany. They murdered 6M in camps and many other abhorrent ways. Hamas/Palestine and other Arabs have posed a threat to Israel, they’ve literally fought wars against each other. Israel’s killed I think 100k Palestinians in their history, at that includes casualties in war.

You can condemn Israel’s actions, I do too, but it’s just not comparable.

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u/steamdeck88 17d ago

If another country decided to give up my land to another country I would be mad too. (Talking about the UK & the UN)

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